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arxiv: 2604.08811 · v1 · submitted 2026-04-09 · 🌌 astro-ph.EP · physics.chem-ph

The Fate of Frozen Carbonated Water at Europa-like Conditions

Swaroop Chandra , William T.P. Denman , Michael E. Brown This is my paper

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keywords CO2 retentionEuropaclathrate hydratesinfrared spectroscopyJWSTfrozen brinescarbonated icesurface processes
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The pith

CO2 trapped in ice under Europa-like conditions produces infrared spectra that do not match JWST observations on the moon.

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The paper tests whether carbon dioxide from Europa's subsurface ocean could remain preserved in ice or frozen brine during ascent to the surface. By subjecting crystalline water ice, sodium chloride brines, and flash-frozen carbonated water to relevant pressure-temperature paths, the authors use diffuse reflectance infrared spectroscopy to track CO2 retention. Clathrate hydrates form in the ices and brines and remain stable up to 140 K under vacuum, yet the specific absorption bands in the laboratory spectra fail to align with the CO2 features detected by NIRSpec on Europa's leading side. This mismatch leads to the conclusion that direct sourcing from the ocean is unlikely unless additional processes modify the observed bands.

Core claim

While CO2 can be retained in crystalline ice and frozen NaCl brines through clathrate formation or flash-freezing, with both mechanisms stable up to 140 K and under evacuated conditions that plausibly mimic transport from the subsurface ocean, the resulting infrared absorptions do not match those observed on Europa by JWST NIRSpec. Therefore it is unlikely that the endogenous CO2 at the surface originates directly from the ocean without further alteration.

What carries the argument

Clathrate hydrate formation in water ice and frozen brines, tracked by diffuse reflectance infrared spectroscopy during controlled P-T paths that simulate ascent from the ocean.

If this is right

  • CO2 retention in ice remains possible during plausible transport paths from the ocean.
  • Clathrate hydrates can form even when initial conditions lie outside the stability region.
  • Sodium chloride in brines does not prevent clathrate formation.
  • Both clathrate and flash-frozen retention states persist to 140 K and in vacuum, consistent with surface survival.
  • The spectral mismatch requires additional post-deposition processes to reconcile lab results with JWST data.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The CO2 bands seen by JWST may arise from surface radiolysis or chemistry rather than direct ocean outgassing.
  • Geological models of icy moons must incorporate how volatile spectra evolve during transport and exposure.
  • Applying similar freezing and spectroscopy tests to other bodies such as Enceladus could distinguish endogenous versus exogenous volatile sources.
  • Simulating ion bombardment or UV exposure on the lab ices would test whether those steps reproduce the observed Europa bands.

Load-bearing premise

The laboratory freezing methods and pressure-temperature paths accurately reproduce the actual conditions experienced by CO2 during transport from Europa's ocean to the surface, without unknown intervening changes.

What would settle it

New observations or lab runs that produce exact matches between the laboratory CO2 absorption bands and the specific features detected by JWST on Europa, or that demonstrate how added surface processes shift the lab bands to match the observations.

read the original abstract

We present the results of experiments probing the retention of CO2 in crystalline water ice, frozen sodium chloride (NaCl) brines, and flash-frozen carbonated water using diffuse reflectance infrared spectroscopy. Characteristic absorptions alluding to the formation of clathrate hydrates in crystalline ices and frozen brines are observed. NaCl in frozen brines does not affect qualitatively affect the formation of clathrate hydrates. Generation and stability of clathrates in crystalline ice transiently subjected to pressure-temperature (P-T) conditions in the stability region is observed, despite conditions being unviable at the onset of freezing. Retention of CO2 in flash-frozen carbonated water is observed to be dependent on the temperature of the substrate during freezing. The state of CO2 retained in the resulting ices differs from clathrate hydrates, as inferred from the respective infrared spectra. Both mechanisms of CO2 retention are stable up to 140 K and under evacuated conditions. In the context of Europa, the P-T states traversed by the samples plausibly represent the typical conditions around endogenous CO2 if it is indeed transported from the subsurface ocean to the surface while being retained in ice/frozen brines and/or liquid emerging on the surface. However, the absorptions of CO2 in the laboratory infrared spectra do not match those detected on the leading side of Europa by the NIRSpec instrument on board JWST. Therefore, it is unlikely that the endogenous CO2 observed at the surface of Europa is sourced directly from the ocean, unless additional processes affect the observed bands of CO2 on Europa.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 1 minor

Summary. The paper describes laboratory experiments investigating the retention and speciation of CO2 in crystalline water ice, frozen NaCl brines, and flash-frozen carbonated water under pressure-temperature conditions relevant to Europa. Using diffuse reflectance infrared spectroscopy, the authors observe characteristic absorptions indicative of clathrate hydrate formation in ices and brines, note that NaCl does not qualitatively affect clathrate formation, and find that CO2 retention in flash-frozen samples depends on substrate temperature during freezing. Both retention mechanisms are stable up to 140 K under vacuum. They argue that these lab conditions plausibly mimic endogenous CO2 transport from the ocean to the surface but that the laboratory CO2 absorption features do not match those observed by JWST NIRSpec on Europa's leading hemisphere, implying that direct ocean sourcing is unlikely without additional processes modifying the bands.

Significance. If the reported spectral mismatch is confirmed through quantitative analysis, this study would significantly impact models of volatile cycling on Europa by suggesting that surface CO2 signatures are not a direct window into the subsurface ocean composition. The detailed experimental results on clathrate stability and temperature-dependent retention in different ice matrices provide useful benchmarks for interpreting remote sensing data from icy moons and for planning future missions.

major comments (2)
  1. The conclusion regarding the mismatch with JWST NIRSpec observations is presented qualitatively. To support the claim that the laboratory spectra do not match the observed bands, the results section should include quantitative comparisons, such as measured band centers with uncertainties, relative intensities, or statistical measures of similarity, rather than relying solely on visual inspection.
  2. The claim that the experimental P-T paths represent typical conditions for endogenous CO2 transport (Abstract) is central to interpreting the spectral mismatch as evidence against direct ocean sourcing. However, the static freezing and flash-freezing methods may not adequately simulate the dynamic processes of ascent through the ice shell, including variable decompression rates and potential interactions with liquid water or radiation, which could modify the CO2 state and IR signatures.
minor comments (1)
  1. Grammatical error in the sentence: 'NaCl in frozen brines does not affect qualitatively affect the formation of clathrate hydrates.' It should be corrected to 'does not qualitatively affect'.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

2 responses · 0 unresolved

We thank the referee for their constructive and insightful comments, which have helped us identify areas for improvement in the manuscript. We address each major comment below and outline the revisions we will make.

read point-by-point responses

  1. Referee: The conclusion regarding the mismatch with JWST NIRSpec observations is presented qualitatively. To support the claim that the laboratory spectra do not match the observed bands, the results section should include quantitative comparisons, such as measured band centers with uncertainties, relative intensities, or statistical measures of similarity, rather than relying solely on visual inspection.

    Authors: We agree that a more quantitative presentation would strengthen the manuscript. In the revised version, we will add a table in the results section that reports the measured centers and full widths at half maximum (with uncertainties derived from replicate measurements) of the key CO2 absorption features in our laboratory spectra. These will be directly compared to the JWST NIRSpec band positions from the literature. We will also note relative intensities of the main bands to provide a clearer basis for the mismatch claim. revision: yes

  2. Referee: The claim that the experimental P-T paths represent typical conditions for endogenous CO2 transport (Abstract) is central to interpreting the spectral mismatch as evidence against direct ocean sourcing. However, the static freezing and flash-freezing methods may not adequately simulate the dynamic processes of ascent through the ice shell, including variable decompression rates and potential interactions with liquid water or radiation, which could modify the CO2 state and IR signatures.

    Authors: We acknowledge that our laboratory protocols are simplified end-member cases and cannot fully replicate the continuous decompression, variable ascent rates, or radiation exposure that may occur during transport through the ice shell. We will revise the abstract and discussion to emphasize that the experiments traverse plausible P-T regimes for material originating from the ocean but represent static analogs rather than dynamic ascent. We will also add text noting that additional processes such as radiolysis could further modify the CO2 speciation and IR signatures. We maintain that the spectral mismatch still implies that direct, unmodified ocean sourcing is unlikely under the conditions tested, but the language will be adjusted to reflect these limitations. revision: partial

Circularity Check

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No circularity: empirical lab spectra compared directly to external observations

full rationale

The paper conducts laboratory experiments measuring IR spectra of CO2 in crystalline ice, frozen NaCl brines, and flash-frozen carbonated water under controlled P-T conditions, then compares those spectra to JWST NIRSpec data from Europa. No equations, derivations, fitted parameters, or model predictions are present. The central claim (mismatch implies ocean-sourced CO2 is unlikely without additional processes) rests on the direct observational comparison and the stated assumption that lab conditions are representative; that assumption is external and falsifiable rather than self-defining or self-citing. No self-citation chains, uniqueness theorems, or renamings of known results appear in the provided text or abstract. The work is self-contained against external benchmarks.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 2 axioms · 0 invented entities

The central inference rests on the domain assumption that laboratory conditions faithfully simulate endogenous CO2 transport and that spectral mismatch implies a non-ocean source or post-formation alteration; no free parameters or invented entities are introduced.

axioms (2)
  • domain assumption Laboratory P-T conditions and freezing protocols accurately represent the states traversed by endogenous CO2 during ocean-to-surface transport on Europa
    Invoked when linking lab results to Europa observations in the final paragraph.
  • domain assumption Characteristic IR absorptions reliably indicate clathrate hydrate formation versus other CO2 retention states
    Used to distinguish retention mechanisms from the observed spectra.

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