Multi-Stage Bi-Atrial Segmentation Framework from 3D Late Gadolinium-Enhanced MRI using V-Net Family Models
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The pith
A multi-stage V-Net pipeline segments bi-atrial structures from 3D LGE MRI after MCLAHE preprocessing.
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Core claim
We report our multi-stage framework designed for the problem of multi-class bi-atrial segmentation from 3D late gadolinium-enhanced (LGE) MRI of the human heart. The pipeline consists of a preprocessing step using multidimensional contrast limited adaptive histogram equalization (MCLAHE); coarse region segmentation from MCLAHE-enhanced and down-sampled MRI using a V-Net family model; and fine segmentation from the coarse region using another V-Net model. Asymmetric loss is adopted to optimize the model weights.
What carries the argument
The multi-stage pipeline that uses MCLAHE for contrast enhancement, a first V-Net for coarse region detection on downsampled data, and a second V-Net for fine boundary segmentation inside the coarse mask.
Load-bearing premise
The multi-stage V-Net pipeline will produce accurate and generalizable segmentations on real clinical data even though no quantitative metrics or comparisons are supplied.
What would settle it
Running the pipeline on an independent held-out set of 3D LGE MRI volumes and measuring Dice scores, Hausdorff distances, and surface errors against manual ground truth to see whether performance exceeds single-stage baselines.
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We report our multi-stage framework designed for the problem of multi-class bi-atrial segmentation from 3D late gadolinium-enhanced (LGE) MRI of the human heart. The pipeline consists of a preprocessing step using multidimensional contrast limited adaptive histogram equalization (MCLAHE); coarse region segmentation from MCLAHE-enhanced and down-sampled MRI using a V-Net family model; and fine segmentation from the coarse region using another V-Net model. Asymmetric loss is adopted to optimize the model weights.
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript describes a multi-stage framework for multi-class bi-atrial segmentation from 3D late gadolinium-enhanced (LGE) MRI. The pipeline consists of MCLAHE preprocessing, coarse segmentation of down-sampled volumes via a V-Net family model, fine segmentation of the cropped region via a second V-Net model, and training with an asymmetric loss function.
Significance. If empirically validated, the coarse-to-fine V-Net pipeline with MCLAHE could offer a practical solution for accurate bi-atrial segmentation in cardiac LGE-MRI, addressing challenges of small structures and class imbalance in 3D volumes. The modular design and asymmetric loss are reasonable engineering choices for this task.
major comments (1)
- The manuscript contains no Results section, no tables or figures reporting quantitative metrics (Dice, IoU, Hausdorff distance, etc.), no ablation studies, and no comparisons against single-stage baselines or prior atrial segmentation methods. This is load-bearing for the central claim that the multi-stage framework solves the bi-atrial segmentation problem, as the abstract and methods description alone provide no evidence of accuracy or generalizability on clinical data.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the constructive and detailed feedback. We agree that empirical validation through quantitative results is essential to support the claims of the multi-stage framework, and we will revise the manuscript to address this gap.
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Referee: The manuscript contains no Results section, no tables or figures reporting quantitative metrics (Dice, IoU, Hausdorff distance, etc.), no ablation studies, and no comparisons against single-stage baselines or prior atrial segmentation methods. This is load-bearing for the central claim that the multi-stage framework solves the bi-atrial segmentation problem, as the abstract and methods description alone provide no evidence of accuracy or generalizability on clinical data.
Authors: We acknowledge that the current manuscript version is primarily methodological and lacks a dedicated Results section with supporting quantitative evidence. This is a valid and important observation. In the revised manuscript, we will add a comprehensive Results section that includes tables and figures reporting Dice scores, IoU, Hausdorff distances, and other relevant metrics evaluated on clinical 3D LGE-MRI datasets. We will also incorporate ablation studies comparing the full multi-stage pipeline (with MCLAHE and asymmetric loss) against single-stage V-Net baselines, as well as comparisons to existing bi-atrial segmentation approaches from the literature. These additions will directly demonstrate the accuracy and generalizability of the proposed framework. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity; purely descriptive methods paper with no equations or derivation chain
full rationale
The manuscript describes a multi-stage V-Net pipeline (MCLAHE preprocessing, coarse downsampled segmentation, fine cropped segmentation, asymmetric loss) but contains no equations, no first-principles derivations, no fitted parameters presented as predictions, and no self-citation chains that reduce claims to inputs. All load-bearing steps are standard architectural choices and preprocessing operations whose correctness is external to the paper; no step reduces by construction to another. The lack of quantitative results is a separate empirical-support issue, not a circularity problem.
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