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arxiv: 2606.27828 · v1 · pith:MP3LYDLSnew · submitted 2026-06-26 · 💻 cs.CV

Video-MME-Logical: A Controlled Diagnostic Benchmark for Video Temporal-Logical Reasoning

Hohin Kwan , Hongyu Li , Ray Zhang , Manyuan Zhang , Xianghao Kong , Anyi Rao , Jiahao Xie , Si Liu This is my paper

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classification 💻 cs.CV
keywords video temporal reasoningmultimodal large language modelsbenchmarklogical reasoningstate trackingtemporal orderingMLLM evaluationcontrolled generation
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Video-MME-Logical creates a controlled benchmark around five temporal-logical operations to measure how MLLMs maintain and compose evidence across video frames.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper establishes that video temporal-logical reasoning can be isolated from static recognition and scene complexity by organizing tasks around state tracking, sequential counting, temporal ordering, dynamic spatiality, and structural composition. It generates 25 fine-grained categories with explicit control over object states, transitions, temporal dependencies, and logical compositions, allowing evaluation at varying horizons and complexities. Experiments on state-of-the-art MLLMs show a human-model performance gap that widens with increased reasoning demands. Even supervised fine-tuning on up to 500K generated samples raises scores but leaves the gap open, and the benchmark includes checks for whether models recover the required intermediate logical trace before answering.

Core claim

The paper claims that a benchmark built on five temporal-logical operations with controlled generation accurately diagnoses video temporal-logical reasoning in MLLMs, that current models exhibit a substantial and complexity-dependent gap relative to humans, and that supervised fine-tuning on hundreds of thousands of samples narrows but does not eliminate this gap.

What carries the argument

The five temporal-logical operations (state tracking, sequential counting, temporal ordering, dynamic spatiality, structural composition) together with controlled generation of tasks that vary temporal horizon and reasoning complexity.

If this is right

  • Gaps between models and humans increase as temporal horizon and logical complexity rise.
  • Supervised fine-tuning on 500K samples improves scores but leaves a remaining gap.
  • The benchmark supports diagnostic checks on whether models recover the required reasoning trace before the final answer.
  • The construction positions the benchmark as a scalable testbed for further analysis of temporal-logical capabilities.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Architectures may need explicit mechanisms for updating and composing states across frames rather than relying on next-token prediction alone.
  • The same controlled-generation approach could be applied to isolate other forms of dynamic reasoning such as causal or counterfactual inference in video.
  • Persistent gaps after large-scale fine-tuning suggest that data scale alone may not suffice and that new objectives or memory structures warrant testing.

Load-bearing premise

The five operations and controlled generation process isolate temporal-logical reasoning without being affected by static object recognition or uncontrolled scene factors.

What would settle it

A result in which models reach human-level accuracy on the benchmark yet still fail to maintain or compose evidence correctly on matched real-world videos that require the same operations.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2606.27828 by Anyi Rao, Hohin Kwan, Hongyu Li, Jiahao Xie, Manyuan Zhang, Ray Zhang, Si Liu, Xianghao Kong.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: VIDEO-MME-LOGICAL is a controllable benchmark for video temporal-logical reasoning with 25 tasks. It evaluates whether models can reason over dynamic visual worlds through State Tracking, Structural Composition, Dynamic Spatiality, Temporal Ordering and Sequential Counting, spanning final-answer tasks, intermediate-state diagnostics, and difficulty-controlled settings. Abstract Recent interest in multimoda… view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: Taxonomy of VIDEO-MME-LOGICAL. The inner ring separates direct-answer tasks from the intermediate-state diagnostic subset, while the outer rings group fine-grained task categories under five temporal-logical operation groups. of four core components: (1) temporal transition, which defines how the scene evolves over time, in￾cluding the order in which objects move, swap, ap￾pear, or disappear; (2) scene con… view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: VIDEO-MME-LOGICAL combines controllable video generation, structured metadata, and diversified reasoning templates to build a 25-task temporal logical reasoning benchmark. reasoning, rather than merely producing the correct final answer. QA and Training Annotation. We generate QA pairs directly from the program metadata using task-specific templates, ensuring that each question is paired with an exact, aut… view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: A qualitative example of intermediate-state evaluation on a state-tracking task. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_4.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: Word cloud of VIDEO-MME-LOGICAL. B Training Configuration for the Qwen3-VL-8B SFT Experiments [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p012_5.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 6. Figure 6: Additional visual examples from VIDEO-MME-LOGICAL [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p014_6.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 7. Figure 7: Additional visual examples from VIDEO-MME-LOGICAL [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p015_7.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 8. Figure 8: Additional visual examples from VIDEO-MME-LOGICAL [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p016_8.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 9. Figure 9: Additional visual examples from VIDEO-MME-LOGICAL [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p017_9.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 10. Figure 10: Additional visual examples from VIDEO-MME-LOGICAL [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p018_10.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 11. Figure 11: Additional visual examples from VIDEO-MME-LOGICAL [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p019_11.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 12. Figure 12: Additional visual examples from VIDEO-MME-LOGICAL [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p020_12.png] view at source ↗
read the original abstract

Recent interest in multimodal large language models (MLLMs) raises a central question: can they reason over dynamic visual evidence rather than merely recognize objects or events in individual frames? This ability, which we refer to as video temporal-logical reasoning, requires models to maintain, update, and compose evidence as visual states evolve across frames. Existing video benchmarks often conflate this capability with scene complexity, static recognition, or uncontrolled temporal variation. To isolate this capability, we introduce Video-MME-Logical, a controlled benchmark organized around five temporal-logical operations: state tracking, sequential counting, temporal ordering, dynamic spatiality, and structural composition. The benchmark contains 25 fine-grained task categories generated with controlled object states, transitions, temporal dependencies, and logical compositions. It enables difficulty-controlled final-answer evaluation by varying temporal horizon and reasoning complexity, and supports intermediate-state diagnostics by verifying whether models recover the required logical reasoning trace before producing the final answer. Experiments with state-of-the-art MLLMs reveal a substantial human-model gap, especially as temporal-logical complexity increases. Supervised fine-tuning on up to 500K generated samples improves performance but remains insufficient to close the reasoning gap, positioning Video-MME-Logical as a scalable testbed for analyzing and improving temporal-logical reasoning in MLLMs.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper introduces Video-MME-Logical, a controlled diagnostic benchmark for video temporal-logical reasoning in MLLMs. It organizes evaluation around five operations (state tracking, sequential counting, temporal ordering, dynamic spatiality, structural composition) realized in 25 fine-grained task categories via controlled generation of object states, transitions, and logical compositions. The benchmark supports difficulty scaling by temporal horizon and complexity, plus intermediate-state diagnostics. Experiments on SOTA MLLMs show a substantial human-model gap that widens with complexity; supervised fine-tuning on up to 500K generated samples yields gains but does not close the gap.

Significance. If the controlled generation and diagnostic protocol successfully isolate temporal-logical reasoning without confounding by static recognition or scene complexity, the benchmark would supply a scalable, falsifiable testbed for a capability that current video benchmarks largely conflate with other skills. The reported persistence of the gap after large-scale SFT would indicate a genuine limitation worth targeted architectural or training research.

minor comments (4)
  1. The abstract and introduction refer to 'controlled object states, transitions, temporal dependencies, and logical compositions' and 'intermediate-state diagnostics' but the manuscript should supply explicit pseudocode or a figure detailing the generation pipeline and the exact verification procedure for the reasoning trace (e.g., how intermediate states are extracted and scored).
  2. Table or figure reporting per-operation and per-complexity human vs. model accuracies (with standard errors) is needed to substantiate the claim that the gap 'especially' increases with temporal-logical complexity; aggregate numbers alone are insufficient.
  3. The SFT protocol (data volume, sampling strategy, base model, training hyperparameters, and whether the 500K samples overlap with the benchmark) should be described in a dedicated subsection so that the 'remains insufficient' conclusion can be reproduced or extended.
  4. Clarify the exact definition of 'temporal horizon' and 'reasoning complexity' used for difficulty control, and report how many videos fall into each bin.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the positive summary of Video-MME-Logical and the recommendation for minor revision. The summary accurately reflects the benchmark's design around the five operations, controlled generation, and experimental findings on the human-model gap.

Circularity Check

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Benchmark construction with no derivations or fitted predictions

full rationale

The paper introduces Video-MME-Logical as a controlled benchmark organized around five temporal-logical operations, generated with explicit states, transitions, and compositions. No equations, parameter fittings, predictions derived from prior fits, or self-citation chains appear in the abstract or described methods. The central claims concern benchmark isolation of capabilities and experimental reporting of model gaps after SFT; these do not reduce to self-referential inputs by construction. The work is self-contained as diagnostic data generation and evaluation, with no load-bearing steps matching the enumerated circularity patterns.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

Benchmark construction paper with no mathematical derivations; the central assumptions concern the validity of the chosen operations as isolators of temporal-logical reasoning.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption The five operations (state tracking, sequential counting, temporal ordering, dynamic spatiality, structural composition) isolate the target capability.
    Benchmark is organized around these operations as stated in the abstract.

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