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arxiv: 2407.18261 · v3 · submitted 2024-07-14 · ⚛️ physics.class-ph · cond-mat.mes-hall· quant-ph

Harnessing Nonlinear Dynamics for Time-Driven Berry Phase in Classical Systems

Kazi T. Mahmood , M. Arif Hasan This is my paper

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classification ⚛️ physics.class-ph cond-mat.mes-hallquant-ph
keywords Berry phasenonlinear dynamicsclassical systemsgranular mediatopological phasesBloch statesvibrational modestime-driven phase
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A classical two-granule system accumulates time-driven Berry phases that take both trivial and nontrivial values depending on driving and nonlinearity.

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The paper establishes that Berry phase can be driven and observed in a classical nonlinear granular system of two spheres. It uses a perturbation model to link the system's elasticity to Bloch states, then measures frequency-dependent phases in experiments. A sympathetic reader would care because this shows classical mechanics can replicate quantum topological effects, potentially allowing simpler systems to study or mimic quantum behaviors. The work finds multiple nontrivial phases in nonlinear conditions, contrasting with single phases in linear ones.

Core claim

The Berry phase in this classical system exhibits trivial and nontrivial values influenced by external driving forces and static precompression. Multiple nontrivial Berry phases emerge in highly nonlinear settings, while more linear regimes show only a singular nontrivial phase. The accumulation is time-driven and frequency-dependent, mirroring path-dependent evolution in quantum mechanics.

What carries the argument

The perturbation-based model that maps the elastic characteristics of the granular system to Bloch states, enabling prediction of the frequency-dependent Berry phase.

If this is right

  • The Berry phase values are controlled by external driving forces and static precompression.
  • Highly nonlinear regimes support multiple nontrivial Berry phases at different frequencies.
  • Linear regimes support only one nontrivial phase.
  • Vibrational modes can share identical Berry phase signatures across frequencies.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • This approach may allow classical systems to serve as testbeds for quantum-inspired topological ideas without quantum hardware.
  • Similar time-driven phases could be sought in other nonlinear mechanical or optical systems.
  • The departure from single-resonance behavior suggests new design principles for topological devices.

Load-bearing premise

The perturbation-based model accurately maps the elastic characteristics of the granular system to Bloch states without introducing artifacts that invalidate the frequency-dependent Berry phase predictions in the nonlinear regime.

What would settle it

An experiment that measures the Berry phase accumulation in the two-granule system and finds it does not vary with frequency as predicted by the perturbation model, or shows the same number of nontrivial phases in both linear and nonlinear regimes.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2407.18261 by Kazi T. Mahmood, M. Arif Hasan.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: Time-Dependent State Evolution of Elastic Bits. The time-dependent evolution of the elastic bit’s state, represented on the Bloch sphere, under a specific set of driving frequencies and amplitudes, highlighting the continuous loop and periodic return to the initial state. The polar angle 𝜃̃(𝑡) remained nearly constant, indicating that the system’s evolution occurred predominantly along the equator of the s… view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: Frequency and Precompression Dependence of Berry Phase. Variation of the Berry phase with external driving frequency (𝜔𝐷) and static precompression (𝛿0). At low precompression, the system exhibits two distinct non-trivial Berry phases of π, separated by a trivial Berry phase of 0. The shifting behavior of non-trivial Berry phases with increasing static precompression demonstrates a transition from highly n… view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: Experimental Manifestation of Elastic Bit Evolution and Berry Phase Accumulation. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p012_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 1. Figure 1: These higher harmonics introduce unique combinations of amplitude [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p012_1.png] view at source ↗
read the original abstract

Phases arising from cyclic processes are fundamental in physics, bridging quantum and classical domains and providing deeper insights into the topology and dynamics of physical systems. This study investigates the accumulation of a time-driven Berry phase in a classical nonlinear system comprised of two spherical granules and introduces a method in which gauge variants naturally evolve over time without altering internal or external conditions. We develop a perturbation-based model to map the system's elastic characteristics to Bloch states and confirm the theoretical predictions of the frequency-dependent Berry phase through experiments. Our findings reveal that the Berry phase can exhibit trivial and nontrivial values, influenced by external driving forces and static precompression. Our results demonstrate a rich array of vibrational modes, capable of displaying identical Berry phase signatures across different frequencies-a significant departure from previous studies that identified a single topological resonance. Multiple nontrivial Berry phases emerge in highly nonlinear settings, whereas more linear regimes exhibit a singular nontrivial phase. Notably, the behavior of the Berry phase in our system mirrors fundamental quantum mechanics concepts, such as path-dependent state evolution. This study highlights the potential of classical mechanical systems to mimic quantum phenomena, opening new pathways for quantum-inspired topological computation and offering fresh perspectives on using time-driven Berry phase accumulation to investigate topological properties in nonlinear media.

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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper claims that a classical nonlinear system of two spherical granules exhibits a time-driven Berry phase that can take both trivial and nontrivial values, with multiple nontrivial phases appearing in highly nonlinear regimes (large driving amplitude or precompression) versus a single nontrivial phase in linear regimes. A perturbation model maps the elastic properties onto Bloch states to predict frequency-dependent Berry phases; these predictions are stated to be confirmed by experiments. The work emphasizes analogies to quantum path-dependent evolution and potential applications to topological computation.

Significance. If the central mapping and experimental support hold, the result would establish a concrete classical platform for observing tunable topological phases driven by nonlinearity, extending Berry-phase concepts beyond linear or quantum settings and offering a route to test topological ideas in granular media.

major comments (2)
  1. [Model derivation (perturbation mapping)] The perturbation model that maps elastic characteristics to Bloch states (used to derive the frequency-dependent Berry phase) is load-bearing for the claim of multiple nontrivial phases in the highly nonlinear regime. Perturbation theory presupposes a small parameter, yet the manuscript contrasts results precisely in the regime of large driving forces and precompression where higher-order terms should dominate; no non-perturbative check or convergence test is indicated.
  2. [Experimental section and abstract] The experimental confirmation of the predicted Berry-phase multiplicity is presented without reported error bars, raw time-series data, or explicit validation that the fitted perturbation parameters remain accurate once the system enters the strongly nonlinear regime; this leaves open whether the observed multiplicity could arise from model artifacts rather than the exact dynamics.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Introduction and methods] Notation for the time-dependent gauge and the definition of the Berry phase accumulation should be clarified with an explicit equation reference to avoid ambiguity between the classical and quantum formulations.
  2. [Abstract] The abstract states a departure from prior single-resonance studies but does not supply the relevant citations; adding them would strengthen the positioning.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

2 responses · 0 unresolved

We thank the referee for their detailed and constructive review. We address each major comment below and outline the revisions that will be incorporated to strengthen the manuscript.

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  1. Referee: [Model derivation (perturbation mapping)] The perturbation model that maps elastic characteristics to Bloch states (used to derive the frequency-dependent Berry phase) is load-bearing for the claim of multiple nontrivial phases in the highly nonlinear regime. Perturbation theory presupposes a small parameter, yet the manuscript contrasts results precisely in the regime of large driving forces and precompression where higher-order terms should dominate; no non-perturbative check or convergence test is indicated.

    Authors: We agree that the perturbation mapping is central to the claims and that its applicability in strongly nonlinear regimes requires explicit justification. The model was constructed by expanding around the linear response and fitting effective parameters to capture nonlinear effects, but higher-order contributions were not systematically tested. To address this, the revised manuscript will include a dedicated subsection with non-perturbative numerical integration of the full nonlinear equations of motion. Direct comparisons between these simulations and the perturbation predictions will be presented for both linear and highly nonlinear parameter regimes, along with convergence checks obtained by increasing the order of the expansion or by varying the small-parameter threshold. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Experimental section and abstract] The experimental confirmation of the predicted Berry-phase multiplicity is presented without reported error bars, raw time-series data, or explicit validation that the fitted perturbation parameters remain accurate once the system enters the strongly nonlinear regime; this leaves open whether the observed multiplicity could arise from model artifacts rather than the exact dynamics.

    Authors: We acknowledge that the experimental section lacks the quantitative details needed to fully substantiate the claims. The original submission omitted error bars, raw traces, and parameter-validation steps primarily for brevity. In the revision we will (i) report error bars on all measured Berry-phase values derived from repeated trials, (ii) add representative raw time-series data to the supplementary material, and (iii) include an explicit comparison of the fitted perturbation parameters against independent measurements and full nonlinear simulations performed in the same strongly nonlinear regime. These additions will allow readers to assess whether the observed multiplicity is consistent with the exact dynamics. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity; perturbation mapping and experimental confirmation form independent derivation chain

full rationale

The paper constructs a perturbation-based model to map elastic properties onto Bloch states, derives frequency-dependent Berry phase values from that mapping, and reports experimental confirmation of the resulting predictions. No quoted equations or steps reduce the output quantities to the inputs by definition, no parameters are fitted on a subset and then relabeled as predictions, and no load-bearing claims rest on self-citations or imported uniqueness theorems. The chain is externally anchored by laboratory measurements, satisfying the criteria for a self-contained, non-circular derivation.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Perturbation-based model maps elastic characteristics to Bloch states
    Invoked to connect classical granular dynamics to quantum-like Berry phase accumulation.

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