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arxiv: 2410.21316 · v2 · submitted 2024-10-26 · 💻 cs.LG · cs.AI· cs.DC· cs.ET· cs.PF

Deep Optimizer States: Towards Scalable Training of Transformer Models Using Interleaved Offloading

Avinash Maurya , Jie Ye , M. Mustafa Rafique , Franck Cappello , Bogdan Nicolae This is my paper

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keywords optimizer statesoffloadingtransformer trainingCPU-GPU hybridmemory managementDeepSpeedLLM scalabilityperformance modeling
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The pith

Splitting optimizer states into CPU-GPU scheduled subgroups via a performance model yields 2.5 times faster transformer training iterations.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper targets the memory wall that blocks scaling of transformer training even after 3D parallelism and multi-GPU aggregation. It exploits natural fluctuations in GPU memory use across forward, backward, and update phases to move portions of optimizer state between host and device at each step. A new technique called Deep Optimizer States partitions the model into subgroups and applies a performance model to decide which subgroups update on CPU versus GPU, balancing data-movement cost against compute speed and resource contention. When integrated into DeepSpeed, the method produces 2.5 times faster iterations than prior offloading strategies in the reported experiments. A sympathetic reader would care because the approach promises to train larger models on existing hardware by extracting more overlap from already-available CPU and interconnect resources.

Core claim

Deep Optimizer States splits the LLM into subgroups whose update phase is scheduled on either the CPU or the GPU based on a proposed performance model that addresses the trade-off between data movement cost, acceleration on the GPUs versus the CPUs, and competition for shared resources, thereby exploiting interleaving-induced memory fluctuations to improve hybrid CPU-GPU utilization.

What carries the argument

Deep Optimizer States, a partitioning and scheduling technique that uses a performance model to assign optimizer-state updates to CPU or GPU at each iteration.

If this is right

  • Training iterations complete in less wall-clock time for the same model size and hardware.
  • Larger models become trainable without adding more GPUs by making fuller use of host memory and CPU compute.
  • Existing frameworks such as DeepSpeed can adopt the technique with the reported integration.
  • The same interleaving principle could apply to other memory-intensive phases beyond optimizer states.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Similar dynamic scheduling might reduce memory pressure during fine-tuning or inference if activation memory also fluctuates predictably.
  • The approach could combine with pipeline parallelism to decide offload targets per pipeline stage rather than per subgroup.
  • Extending the performance model to multi-node settings would require accounting for network bandwidth in addition to PCIe.
  • If the model proves accurate across more hardware generations, it could become a standard component in future distributed training runtimes.

Load-bearing premise

GPU memory utilization fluctuates enough during each training iteration to allow low-overhead dynamic offloading, and the performance model correctly predicts the best CPU-GPU assignment without hidden contention costs.

What would settle it

A controlled run on the same hardware and model where the measured iteration time using the performance-model schedule is no faster than the best static offloading baseline.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2410.21316 by Avinash Maurya, Bogdan Nicolae, Franck Cappello, Jie Ye, M. Mustafa Rafique.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: Model parallelism techniques with optimizer state completely offloaded to the host memory: (a) Conventional pipeline and tensor [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: GPU memory util. without (top) and with (bottom) activation checkpoint. 0 2 4 6 8 0 2 4 6 PCIe throughput (GB/s) F B U D2H H2D Elapsed time (s) [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: Working of optimizer update step with different approaches for 8 subgroups per GPU (2 subgroups statically residing on GPU). Our [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_5.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 6. Figure 6: Working of forward and backward passes with different approaches for 3 subgroups per GPU. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_6.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 7. Figure 7: Average iteration time breakdown for different model sizes. 7B 8.3B 10B 13B 20B Model size (Billions of params) 0 5 10 15 20 Update throughput (Billion parameters/sec.) DeepSpeed ZeRO-3 Deep Optimizer States 7.9 14.2 6.0 10.7 6.7 11.9 7.7 13.6 8.8 15.4 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p010_7.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 11. Figure 11: Avg. iteration breakdown for vary￾ing TwinFlow ratios, 20B parameters model. 7B 8.3B 10B 13B 20B Model size (Billions of params) 0 2 4 6 Average iteration time breakdown (s) DeepSpeed TwinFlow Deep Optimizer States Forward Backward Update 2.6 1.5 4.1 2.3 4.1 2.1 4.5 2.3 6.0 2.6 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p011_11.png] view at source ↗
Figure 13
Figure 13. Figure 13: Impact of increasing micro-batch size for the 20B parameters model. 10 20 30 38 44 48 CPUs available per GPU 0 5 10 15 20 Avg. iteration time (s) DeepSpeed ZeRO-3 Deep Optimizer States 0 20 40 60 TFLOPs (lines) [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p011_13.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 16. Figure 16: Varying percentages of updates scheduled on the GPU for [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p012_16.png] view at source ↗
read the original abstract

Transformers and large language models~(LLMs) have seen rapid adoption in all domains. Their sizes have exploded to hundreds of billions of parameters and keep increasing. Under these circumstances, the training of transformers is very expensive and often hits a ``memory wall'', i.e., even when using 3D parallelism (pipeline, tensor, data) and aggregating the memory of many GPUs, it is still not enough to hold the necessary data structures (model parameters, optimizer state, gradients, activations) in GPU memory. To compensate, state-of-the-art approaches offload the optimizer state, at least partially, to the host memory and perform hybrid CPU-GPU computations. However, the management of the combined host-GPU memory is often suboptimal and results in poor overlapping between data movements and computations. This leads to missed opportunities to simultaneously leverage the interconnect bandwidth and computational capabilities of CPUs and GPUs. In this paper, we leverage a key observation that the interleaving of the forward, backward, and update phases generates fluctuations in the GPU memory utilization, which can be exploited to dynamically move a part of the optimizer state between the host and the GPU memory at each iteration. To this end, we design and implement Deep Optimizer States, a novel technique to split the LLM into subgroups, whose update phase is scheduled on either the CPU or the GPU based on our proposed performance model that addresses the trade-off between data movement cost, acceleration on the GPUs vs the CPUs, and competition for shared resources. We integrate our approach with DeepSpeed and demonstrate 2.5$\times$ faster iterations over state-of-the-art approaches using extensive experiments.

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Referee Report

2 major / 1 minor

Summary. The paper claims that by splitting LLMs into subgroups and using a performance model to dynamically schedule optimizer-state updates on CPU or GPU, Deep Optimizer States can exploit GPU memory fluctuations across forward/backward/update phases to reduce iteration time. The approach is integrated with DeepSpeed and is reported to deliver 2.5× faster iterations than prior offloading methods through extensive experiments.

Significance. If the performance model accurately captures data-movement costs, CPU/GPU acceleration differences, and shared-resource contention while keeping offload overhead low, the technique could improve hybrid CPU-GPU utilization for training models that exceed aggregate GPU memory, offering a practical extension to existing 3D-parallelism frameworks.

major comments (2)
  1. [§4 (Performance Model)] §4 (Performance Model): the model is described as addressing the trade-off among data-movement cost, GPU vs. CPU acceleration, and competition for shared resources, yet the derivation and any accompanying equations do not include an explicit term or validation for PCIe/memory-bandwidth contention that arises when CPU and GPU updates run concurrently; without this, the claimed optimality of the per-subgroup schedule cannot be verified.
  2. [§5 (Experiments)] §5 (Experiments): the 2.5× iteration speedup is asserted over state-of-the-art baselines, but the section provides no quantitative breakdown of the performance model’s prediction accuracy (e.g., measured vs. predicted iteration times), no statistical significance across repeated runs, and no ablation isolating the contribution of dynamic scheduling versus static subgroup splitting.
minor comments (1)
  1. [§3] Notation for subgroup partitioning and the exact definition of the performance-model objective function could be clarified with a small illustrative example in §3.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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Dear Editor, We thank the referee for the constructive feedback on our manuscript. The comments identify opportunities to strengthen the presentation of the performance model and the experimental validation. We respond point-by-point below and will revise the manuscript accordingly.

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  1. Referee: [§4 (Performance Model)] the model is described as addressing the trade-off among data-movement cost, GPU vs. CPU acceleration, and competition for shared resources, yet the derivation and any accompanying equations do not include an explicit term or validation for PCIe/memory-bandwidth contention that arises when CPU and GPU updates run concurrently; without this, the claimed optimality of the per-subgroup schedule cannot be verified.

    Authors: We acknowledge that while §4 describes the model as capturing competition for shared resources, the provided equations do not isolate an explicit PCIe contention term for concurrent CPU-GPU execution. In the revised manuscript we will augment the derivation with a dedicated contention factor derived from measured effective bandwidth under simultaneous transfers, together with micro-benchmark validation. This addition will make the optimality argument for the per-subgroup schedule directly verifiable. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [§5 (Experiments)] the 2.5× iteration speedup is asserted over state-of-the-art baselines, but the section provides no quantitative breakdown of the performance model’s prediction accuracy (e.g., measured vs. predicted iteration times), no statistical significance across repeated runs, and no ablation isolating the contribution of dynamic scheduling versus static subgroup splitting.

    Authors: We agree that the experimental section would benefit from these elements. The current manuscript reports average iteration times but omits explicit prediction-error metrics, statistical tests, and the requested ablation. We will add (i) a table comparing measured versus predicted iteration times, (ii) standard-deviation error bars across repeated runs, and (iii) an ablation that isolates dynamic scheduling from static subgroup partitioning. These revisions will be included in the next version. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity; performance model addresses trade-offs independently

full rationale

The paper's central technique splits the model into subgroups and uses a proposed performance model to decide per-subgroup CPU vs. GPU scheduling by explicitly trading off data-movement cost, CPU/GPU acceleration, and shared-resource contention. This model is introduced as a new construct to exploit observed memory fluctuations during forward/backward/update phases rather than being fitted to or defined by the reported 2.5× speedup. No self-definitional equations, fitted inputs renamed as predictions, load-bearing self-citations, or imported uniqueness theorems appear in the provided abstract or description. The experimental validation is presented as external evidence, keeping the derivation chain self-contained against the inputs.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 0 axioms · 0 invented entities

Abstract-only review provides no explicit free parameters, axioms, or invented entities; the central claim rests on the unstated validity of the performance model and the existence of exploitable memory fluctuations, but none are detailed enough to enumerate.

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