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Attributing Data for Sharpness-Aware Minimization
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Pith's one-line read This paper derives two influence-function estimators for Sharpness-Aware Minimization, SAM-HIF and SAM-GIF, that approximate the leave-one-out retrained model and support mislabeled-data detection and model editing without retraining.
desk verdict SAM-GIF is a sensible reuse of TracIn for SAM and the experiments support it as a heuristic, but the paper's central SAM-HIF derivation relies on a false stationarity condition and needs major rework. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The machinery is the leave-one-out (LOO) approximation built on Taylor expansion of the SAM optimality condition. Lemma 4.2 reduces the SAM stationary condition to $\nabla L_S(\omega^*+\hat{\epsilon}(\omega^*))=0$; Theorem 4.5 then solves the expanded equation to obtain $\mathrm{SAM\text{-}HIF}$, and Theorem 4.6 sums the checkpoint gradients to obtain $\mathrm{SAM\text{-}GIF}_{\mathrm{SGD}}$. The two formulas are the central objects: they convert the question 'what would retraining without this point produce?' into linear-algebra operations on quantities already available from training.
What would settle it
Compute the gradient norm $\|\nabla L_S(\omega^*+\hat{\epsilon}(\omega^*))\|$ at the end of a standard SAM run; if it is far from zero, the stationary-point premise fails. In parallel, retrain several SAM models with a single point deleted and correlate the measured $\omega_k-\omega^*$ with the SAM-HIF and SAM-GIF predictions; a correlation near zero would refute the central approximation.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
On the paper's own terms, the central discovery is that the leave-one-out retrained SAM model $\omega_k$ is accurately approximated by $\omega^*$ minus one of two closed-form influence scores. $\mathrm{SAM\text{-}HIF}$ extends the classical influence function by including the derivative of the inner perturbation in the Hessian, giving $\mathrm{SAM\text{-}HIF}(x_k,y_k) = -(H_\omega + H_\omega\, d\hat{\epsilon}(\omega^*)/d\omega)^{-1} \nabla L_k^S(\omega^*+\hat{\epsilon}(\omega^*))$. $\mathrm{SAM\text{-}GIF}$ instead accumulates learning-rate-weighted gradients at the perturbed points along the stored training trajectory, giving $\mathrm{SAM\text{-}GIF}_{\mathrm{SGD}}(x_k,y_k)=\sum_{t=0}^{T-1}\eta_t B_{k,t}\nabla L_k^S(\omega_t+\hat{\epsilon}(\omega_t))$. These are presented as the first influence-based attribution tools for SAM, with experiments on CIFAR-10/100, MNIST, Mini-ImageNet, and HAM10000 showing that removing points flagged as harmful recovers accuracy from label noise, removing points flagged as valuable degrades accuracy like retraining, and the estimated edited parameters stay close to truly retrained parameters.
Load-bearing premise
The load-bearing premise is Lemma 4.2 in Section 4.1: that a SAM optimum satisfies $\nabla L_S(\omega^*+\hat{\epsilon}(\omega^*))=0$, which lets every later Taylor expansion start from a stationary point; if actual SAM training stops at points where this residual is large, the SAM-HIF and SAM-GIF formulas inherit that error.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- Removing the points with the lowest influence scores improves test accuracy under label noise, and the paper reports detecting over 90% of noisy labels once roughly 40% of samples are removed.
- Model editing becomes feasible without retraining: the edited parameters $\omega^* - \mathrm{IF}(x_k,y_k)$ approximate the retrained model, with accuracy close to a full retrain but runtime reduced from thousands of seconds to a few seconds.
- SAM-HIF works when no training trajectory is stored, and the Neumann-series approximation of the inverse Hessian-vector product avoids storing the full Hessian matrix.
- When checkpoints are available, SAM-GIF matches retraining more closely than the Hessian-based variant on CIFAR-10 and runs faster, since it avoids Hessian computation.
- The same influence scores support interpretability by tracing misclassified test predictions back to the most helpful and most harmful training examples.
Reading between the lines
- The same leave-one-out argument should extend to SAM variants that compute perturbations differently, because only the Jacobian $d\hat{\epsilon}(\omega^*)/d\omega$ changes in the Hessian-based formula.
- If the reported accuracy holds at scale, these estimators offer a cheap deletion audit for privacy: a deployed SAM model could be adjusted for a removed user's data by subtraction rather than retraining.
- The trajectory-based estimator's accuracy depends on how many checkpoints are stored; the paper's ablation suggests performance approaches retraining as checkpoints grow, implying a direct cost-accuracy trade-off in deployment.
- A natural next test is whether the scores remain calibrated for large deletion fractions or shifted validation distributions, where the local Taylor assumptions are most strained.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. This paper proposes two data-attribution methods for Sharpness-Aware Minimization (SAM): a Hessian-based influence function (SAM-HIF) and a gradient-trajectory influence function (SAM-GIF). The authors derive SAM-HIF as a closed-form approximation of the leave-one-out parameter change for SAM-trained models, and SAM-GIF as a checkpoint-based estimator that avoids Hessian inversion. They validate the methods on CIFAR-10/100, MNIST, MiniImageNet, HAM10000, CUB, and FOOD-101, reporting large runtime reductions relative to retraining and demonstrating applications in mislabeled-data detection, model editing, and interpretability. The central theoretical contribution is the claim that SAM-HIF and SAM-GIF accurately approximate LOO retraining for SAM without retraining.
Significance. If the derivations were sound, the paper would address a real and timely gap: existing influence-function methods do not directly handle SAM's bilevel structure. The proposed SAM-GIF in particular, being Hessian-free and trajectory-based, could be practically useful and scalable, and the experiments show order-of-magnitude speedups (e.g., CIFAR-10 retraining 3516 s vs. SAM-GIF 4.9 s). However, the paper's theoretical foundation has multiple load-bearing errors: a false stationarity equivalence, an incorrect gradient expression, an unquantified dropped term in the SAM-HIF derivation, and a sign inconsistency in SAM-GIF. These issues prevent the main closed-form claims from being accepted as derived from the stated SAM objective.
major comments (5)
- [Section 4.1, Lemma 4.2 and Appendix A.1, Eq. (10)] Lemma 4.2 states that the SAM stationarity condition is 'equivalent to' ∇LS(ω*+ε^(ω*))=0 after displaying a condition that contains λω* and a dε^(ω*)/dω term. This equivalence is false for λ>0 unless ω*=0 and the dε/dω term also vanishes. Equation (10) in Appendix A.1 then uses ∇LS(ω*+ε^(ω*))=0 as the base point for every Taylor expansion in Theorems 4.3 and 4.5, so the influence formulas are not actually derived from the optimization problem in Eq. (1). Additionally, Eq. (2) includes dε^(ω)/dω·∇LS(ω+ε^(ω)) in the gradient of the SAM objective, which conflicts with Danskin's theorem for a max over a compact ball; the correct Danskin gradient is ∇LS(ω+ε^(ω)) with no dε/dω term. These are not stylistic issues: the claimed equivalence and the gradient expression are the foundation of the subsequent derivations.
- [Appendix A.1, Eq. (11)] The Taylor expansion of the stationarity condition omits the λ(ωδ−ω*) term that must appear when the objective contains (λ/2)||ω||². The text defines Hω = ∇²LS(ω*+ε^(ω*)) + λI, so the λI contribution is introduced in the final formula, but it is not present in the displayed expansion that is supposed to justify the formula. As written, the derivation is internally inconsistent: either the expansion should be performed on the regularized gradient, in which case λ(ωδ−ω*) appears, or the Hω definition should not include λI. This indeterminacy affects the central closed-form claim of Theorem 4.3.
- [Appendix A.1, Eqs. (13)–(15), Theorem 4.5] The derivation of SAM-HIF drops the term −(Hω + Hω dε^(ω*)/dω)^{-1} Hω · dεδ(ω*)/dδ|_{δ=0} from dωδ/dδ, with the justification 'to enhance the computation efficiency.' However, this term exactly captures how the worst-case perturbation changes when sample k is up-weighted, which is the perturbation influence that SAM-HIF is claimed to model. No argument is given that this term is negligible, and in general it is of the same order as the retained term δ∇Lk. Consequently, SAM-HIF is not a comprehensive estimator of data influence as advertised; it is a further approximation whose error is unquantified.
- [Section 4.2, Theorem 4.6] There is a sign inconsistency in the gradient-trajectory influence function. The derivation gives dω_{T,δ}/dδ|_{δ=0} = −Σ_t η_t ∇Lk(ωt+ε^(ωt)) (up to the discarded Hessian term), which implies that for δ=−1 (removal) one obtains ωk ≈ ω* + Σ_t η_t ∇Lk(ωt+ε^(ωt)). The theorem, however, defines SAM-GIFSGD = Σ_t η_t B_{k,t}∇Lk(ωt+ε^(ωt)) with a positive sign and then states ωk ≈ ω* − SAM-GIFSGD. This is the opposite sign from what the derivation implies. Earlier in Section 4.2 the quantity SAM-GIFGD is defined with a minus sign, so the text is internally inconsistent about the sign convention, and the parameter-update formula in Theorem 4.6 does not follow from the displayed derivation.
- [Section 4.3.2, Theorem 4.8] The interpretation of the influence score IS is incorrect. The theorem defines IS ≈ Σ_{(x,y)∈Dval} ℓ(x,y;ω*) − ℓ(x,y;ω*_{−k}); that is, IS > 0 means the loss before removal is higher than the loss after removal, so removal improves performance on the validation set. The sentence 'A positive IS indicates that removing the data point will deteriorate the model's performance' is therefore backwards. This sign error also propagates to the downstream use in Section 5.4, where low IS is used to identify harmful data; under the stated definition, harmful data should correspond to positive IS.
minor comments (5)
- [Appendix A.2, Lemma A.2 proof] The intermediate quantity εδ(ω*) is defined as an arg min, but it should be an arg max to match the perturbation objective.
- [Section 4.3.1] The text refers to 'Proposition 4.3' when the result is Theorem 4.3; the label is incorrect.
- [Section 5.2, Tables 2 and 3] The baseline is called 'TARK' in the text and tables, but reference [46] is the TRAK paper by Park et al.; the name should be corrected consistently.
- [Section 5.1 and Table 3] CUB and FOOD-101 are used in Table 3 but are not described in the dataset list in Section 5.1; please add their descriptions and the random-seed or train/test split details.
- [Section 5.2, Table 1] The runtime column for retraining on MINI-ImageNet is 682.56 s while the accuracy is 0.6835; it would be helpful to state the number of epochs and architecture for that dataset, as the numbers appear to be on a different scale from CIFAR-10/100.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity: the SAM attribution formulas are derived from standard influence-function and TracIn-style expansions, and the empirical evaluations are validated against actual retraining rather than against the method's own fitted values.
full rationale
The paper's central derivations are not circular. SAM-HIF in Theorem 4.5 is obtained by a Taylor expansion of the SAM optimality condition around the trained weights, yielding a closed-form expression in terms of the Hessian and the per-sample gradient at the perturbed point; no parameter is fitted to the leave-one-out changes it later claims to predict. SAM-GIF in Theorem 4.6 is an explicit accumulation of per-step gradient terms with the batch indicator B_{k,t}, directly extending the TracIn formulation of Pruthi et al. and then compared with real leave-one-out retraining, so its outputs are not forced by construction. The paper's self-citations, such as [27], [28], [49], and [65], are related influence-function studies and are not load-bearing for the derivation of SAM-HIF or SAM-GIF. The serious mathematical objections raised by the reader — specifically the questionable equivalence in Lemma 4.2 between the stationarity condition containing λω* and the reduced condition ∇LS(ω*+ε(ω*))=0, the omission of the λ(ωδ−ω*) term in the Taylor expansion, and the nonstandard chain-rule term in Eq. (2) — are correctness and rigor issues, not circularity: even if Lemma 4.2 is false, the argument does not reduce to assuming the conclusion it claims to derive. Likewise, approximating dε(ω*)/dω with Eq. (6), taken from Foret et al., is a standard SAM approximation and not a self-citation or ansatz-smuggled premise. Because the empirical comparisons use retraining as ground truth and the formulas do not contain fitted parameters renamed as predictions, the circularity score is 0.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (2)
- Neumann series truncation order J =
not specified
- Number of checkpoints s for SAM-GIF =
up to 10 in ablation (Figure 12)
assumptions (5)
- standard math Danskin's theorem and the equivalent stationarity condition ∇LS(ω*+ε(ω*)) = 0
- ad hoc to paper Sign of ∇wLS(ω,0) is unchanged when one training point is removed
- ad hoc to paper The δ-perturbed maximizer difference εδ(ω*) - ε(ω*) is negligible as ε→0
- domain assumption Influence-function Taylor expansion is valid for the non-convex SAM loss at an approximate optimum
- domain assumption The SAM training algorithm in Algorithm 1 (using approximate ε and dropping the second gradient term) faithfully represents SAM
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Sharpness-aware Minimization (SAM) improves generalization in large-scale model training by linking loss landscape geometry to generalization. However, challenges such as mislabeled noisy data and privacy concerns have emerged as significant issues. Data attribution, which identifies the contributions of specific training samples, offers a promising solution. However, directly rendering existing data influence evaluation tools such as influence functions (IF) to SAM will be inapplicable or inaccurate as SAM utilizes an inner loop to find model perturbations that maximize loss, which the outer loop then minimizes, resulting in a doubled computational structure. Additionally, this bilevel structure complicates the modeling of data influence on the parameters. In this paper, based on the IF, we develop two innovative data valuation methods for SAM, each offering unique benefits in different scenarios: the Hessian-based IF and the Gradient Trajectory-based IF. The first one provides a comprehensive estimation of data influence using a closed-form measure that relies only on the trained model weights. In contrast, the other IF for SAM utilizes gradient trajectory information during training for more accurate and efficient data assessment. Extensive experiments demonstrate their effectiveness in data evaluation and parameter tuning, with applications in identifying mislabeled data, model editing, and enhancing interpretability.
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