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RAM-W600: A Multi-Task Wrist Dataset and Benchmark for Rheumatoid Arthritis

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Pith's one-line read A new public dataset supplies pixel-level annotations for wrist bone segmentation and Sharp/van der Heijde bone erosion scores in rheumatoid arthritis radiographs.

desk verdict This is a straightforward dataset release that fills a real gap with the first public wrist bone instance segmentation set in conventional radiographs, but the missing annotation quality metrics are the main thing to watch. read the letter →

arxiv 2507.05193 v4 pith:SQ6ACUT5 submitted 2025-07-07 eess.IV cs.CV

Songxiao Yang , Haolin Wang , Yao Fu , Ye Tian , Tamotsu Kamishima , Masayuki Ikebe , Yafei Ou , Masatoshi Okutomi This is my paper · ORCID
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The reading

The paper presents RAM-W600 as the first public multi-task resource for wrist conventional radiographs in rheumatoid arthritis research. It tackles the scarcity of high-quality instance-level labels for small overlapping bones whose shapes change with disease. The collection draws 1048 images from 388 patients at six centers, supplying segmentation masks on 618 images and SvdH bone erosion scores on 800 images. These labels can underpin tasks such as joint space narrowing quantification, erosion detection, and deformity assessment. Release of the data is intended to reduce the effort required to begin computer-aided diagnosis studies in this area.

What carries the argument

The RAM-W600 dataset, which pairs conventional wrist radiographs with pixel-level instance segmentation masks and SvdH bone erosion scores.

What would settle it

Re-annotation of a random subset of the images by independent rheumatology experts that produces substantially different bone boundaries or erosion scores from the released labels would undermine the dataset's value as ground truth.

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Core claim

The authors establish that a multi-center collection of 1048 wrist radiographs, annotated at the pixel level for bone instances on 618 cases and scored for bone erosion on 800 cases, constitutes the first openly available resource for wrist bone instance segmentation and simultaneously supports Sharp/van der Heijde bone erosion scoring in rheumatoid arthritis.

Load-bearing premise

The provided pixel-level segmentation masks and SvdH scores are sufficiently consistent and accurate to function as reliable ground truth even though small bones, narrow spaces, overlaps, and disease changes make expert annotation difficult.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • The annotations enable training of models for automated joint space narrowing measurement across multiple centers.
  • The scores support development of algorithms that detect and quantify bone erosion progression.
  • The same images can be used to evaluate bone deformity and osteophyte formation.
  • The resource extends to non-RA wrist tasks such as locating carpal bone fractures.

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Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Models trained on this data could be tested for cross-center robustness using the multi-site collection.
  • Automated scoring pipelines built from these labels might reduce the time experts spend on routine RA monitoring.
  • Future releases could add follow-up images to support longitudinal studies of disease progression.
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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper introduces the RAM-W600 dataset, a multi-task collection of 1048 wrist conventional radiographs from 388 patients across six medical centers. It provides pixel-level instance segmentation annotations for 618 images and Sharp/van der Heijde (SvdH) bone erosion (BE) scores for 800 images. The central claim is that this is the first public resource for wrist bone instance segmentation in conventional radiography, intended to support CAD research on rheumatoid arthritis tasks including BE detection, joint space narrowing quantification, and related applications.

Significance. If the ground-truth annotations prove reliable, the dataset would represent a meaningful contribution by filling a gap in public resources for wrist-specific RA imaging analysis. The multi-center design and dual-task structure (segmentation plus scoring) could facilitate development of generalizable models and support downstream tasks such as osteophyte detection or carpal fracture localization.

major comments (1)
  1. [Annotation Protocol / Methods] Annotation Protocol / Methods section: The manuscript acknowledges that accurate pixel-level annotation of wrist bones requires detailed anatomical and rheumatology expertise due to small bones, narrow joint spaces, overlaps, and RA-induced morphological changes, yet provides no quantitative inter-annotator agreement statistics (e.g., mean Dice or IoU across multiple experts) for the 618 segmentation masks. Without such metrics or a description of the adjudication process, the reliability of the instance-segmentation ground truth remains unsubstantiated and directly undermines the dataset's utility as a benchmark.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] The abstract and introduction would benefit from explicit clarification on the overlap between the 618 segmentation-annotated images and the 800 scored images, including whether any images carry both labels.
  2. [Dataset Statistics] Figure captions and dataset statistics tables should include the exact number of images per center and per task to allow readers to assess potential center-specific biases.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their thoughtful review and for identifying a key area where the manuscript can be strengthened. We address the major comment below and outline the revisions we will make.

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  1. Referee: [Annotation Protocol / Methods] Annotation Protocol / Methods section: The manuscript acknowledges that accurate pixel-level annotation of wrist bones requires detailed anatomical and rheumatology expertise due to small bones, narrow joint spaces, overlaps, and RA-induced morphological changes, yet provides no quantitative inter-annotator agreement statistics (e.g., mean Dice or IoU across multiple experts) for the 618 segmentation masks. Without such metrics or a description of the adjudication process, the reliability of the instance-segmentation ground truth remains unsubstantiated and directly undermines the dataset's utility as a benchmark.

    Authors: We agree that quantitative measures of annotation reliability are essential for establishing the dataset as a robust benchmark. The current manuscript describes the general annotation challenges and the involvement of experts with anatomical and rheumatology knowledge but does not report inter-annotator agreement or detail the adjudication steps. In the revised manuscript we will expand the Methods section to include: (i) the number of annotators and their specific qualifications, (ii) a description of the multi-stage annotation and adjudication workflow, and (iii) quantitative agreement statistics (mean Dice and IoU) computed on a representative subset of images that were annotated independently by multiple experts. These additions will directly address the concern and strengthen the evidence for ground-truth quality. revision: yes

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full rationale

This is a dataset introduction paper whose central claims concern the composition, scale, and public availability of a new multi-task wrist radiograph collection (1048 images, 618 with instance segmentation, 800 with SvdH scores). No mathematical derivations, equations, fitted parameters, or predictive models are present. The claims rest directly on the described data acquisition and annotation process rather than any self-referential reduction, self-citation chain, or renaming of prior results. The paper is therefore self-contained against external benchmarks of dataset utility, warranting a score of 0 with no circular steps.

Assumptions & free parameters 0 free parameters · 1 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The paper is a dataset introduction rather than a theoretical or modeling contribution; it rests on domain assumptions about annotation difficulty but introduces no free parameters, fitted values, or new postulated entities.

assumptions (1)
  • domain assumption Accurate wrist bone instance segmentation in conventional radiographs requires detailed anatomical knowledge and rheumatology expertise because of small bones, narrow joint spaces, complex structures, overlaps, and disease-induced changes such as osteophytes and bone erosion.
    Explicitly stated in the abstract as the primary reasons why CAD research in this area remains limited.

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Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) is a common autoimmune disease that has been the focus of research in computer-aided diagnosis (CAD) and disease monitoring. In clinical settings, conventional radiography (CR) is widely used for the screening and evaluation of RA due to its low cost and accessibility. The wrist is a critical region for the diagnosis of RA. However, CAD research in this area remains limited, primarily due to the challenges in acquiring high-quality instance-level annotations. (i) The wrist comprises numerous small bones with narrow joint spaces, complex structures, and frequent overlaps, requiring detailed anatomical knowledge for accurate annotation. (ii) Disease progression in RA often leads to osteophyte, bone erosion (BE), and even bony ankylosis, which alter bone morphology and increase annotation difficulty, necessitating expertise in rheumatology. This work presents a multi-task dataset for wrist bone in CR, including two tasks: (i) wrist bone instance segmentation and (ii) Sharp/van der Heijde (SvdH) BE scoring, which is the first public resource for wrist bone instance segmentation. This dataset comprises 1048 wrist conventional radiographs of 388 patients from six medical centers, with pixel-level instance segmentation annotations for 618 images and SvdH BE scores for 800 images. This dataset can potentially support a wide range of research tasks related to RA, including joint space narrowing (JSN) progression quantification, BE detection, bone deformity evaluation, and osteophyte detection. It may also be applied to other wrist-related tasks, such as carpal bone fracture localization. We hope this dataset will significantly lower the barrier to research on wrist RA and accelerate progress in CAD research within the RA-related domain.

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Figure 1. Overview of the RAM-W600 dataset, designed for wrist bone segmentation and SvdH [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p002_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Distribution and Statistics for the age, gender, institution, number of shots, and BE scores [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Wrist bone segmentation visualization results. The solid box indicates segmentation [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: BE & nonBE confusion matrix results for classification of BE. Implementation details The dataset was split according to the configuration shown in [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p009_4.png]
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Figure 5. Figure 5: A total of 1048 DICOM-format wrist radiographs were collected, including 916 internal [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p020_5.png]
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Figure 6. Figure 6: Wrist bone segmentation.(A) Original wrist radiograph. (B) Predicted instance segmentation [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p021_6.png]
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Figure 7. Figure 7: Image input and annotation.(A) Raw wrist radiograph. (B) Instance bone segmentation [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p021_7.png]
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Figure 8. Figure 8: BE and nonBE Classification. The left panel shows six annotated joint regions used for BE [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p022_8.png]
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Figure 9. Figure 9: Additional visual results for wrist bone segmentation (Part A). [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p029_9.png]
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Figure 10. Figure 10: Additional visual results for wrist bone segmentation (Part B). [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p030_10.png]
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Figure 11. Figure 11: Confusion matrix results for classification of BE and nonBE. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p030_11.png]

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