REVIEW 3 major objections 4 minor 1 cited by
3D Gaussian Splatting can train directly on raw fisheye images, without undistortion, when Gaussians are jointly optimized across overlapping views.
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load-bearing objection Solid engineering fix for native fisheye 3DGS plus a transferable multi-view regularizer; residual floaters are real, CVO is plausible but under-isolated in the extract. the 3 major comments →
DirectFisheye-GS: Enabling Native Fisheye Input in Gaussian Splatting with Cross-View Joint Optimization
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
Integrating a fisheye camera model into the original 3D Gaussian Splatting rasterizer enables native fisheye training without any undistortion preprocessing; residual edge floaters are then suppressed by a feature-overlap-driven cross-view joint optimization that imposes consistent geometric and photometric constraints across views, yielding reconstruction quality that matches or surpasses state-of-the-art methods on public datasets.
What carries the argument
Feature-overlap-driven cross-view joint optimization: Gaussians that share feature overlap across multiple views are selected and updated together so their shapes and colors cannot diverge into oversized or elongated forms at the distorted periphery.
Load-bearing premise
The method treats a feature-overlap score as a reliable proxy for true multi-view geometric correspondence; if that score is noisy or biased, the joint update can still leave extreme Gaussian shapes.
What would settle it
On the same fisheye sequences, disable only the feature-overlap joint step while keeping native fisheye projection; if peripheral floaters and edge-region metrics then fail to degrade relative to the full method, the claim that joint optimization is what removes residual floaters is falsified.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper proposes DirectFisheye-GS, which integrates a fisheye camera model directly into the 3D Gaussian Splatting rasterization pipeline so that training can use native fisheye images without undistortion preprocessing. The authors argue that undistortion wastes FOV (black borders) and dilutes high-frequency detail via stretch-and-interpolate resampling, causing blur and floaters. After correct fisheye projection they still observe peripheral floaters, which they attribute to 3DGS’s per-iteration single-view random optimization producing extreme Gaussian shapes under strong peripheral distortion. They introduce a feature-overlap–driven cross-view joint optimization (CVO) that selects Gaussians for multi-view geometric and photometric updates, claiming this regularizer is also useful for ordinary pinhole pipelines. Qualitative results and ablations (Figs. 1, 9, 10) and claims of matching or surpassing SOTA on ScanNet++ and Den-SOFT are presented.
Significance. Native fisheye support for 3DGS is a practically useful engineering contribution for wide-FOV capture in VR/AR and robotics, where undistortion is known to discard information and create low-frequency artifacts. Framing residual floaters as a cross-view consistency problem and proposing a general CVO regularizer is a reasonable and potentially transferable idea beyond fisheye. If the quantitative gains hold under controlled ablations and the overlap selection is shown to be robust, the work would be a solid incremental advance for the 3DGS community. The public project page and multi-dataset evaluation are positive reproducibility signals.
major comments (3)
- The load-bearing claim that feature-overlap CVO is what removes residual peripheral floaters (after correct fisheye projection) rests on an unvalidated proxy. The abstract and introduction state that single-view optimization produces extreme shapes and that CVO establishes consistent geometric/photometric constraints via feature overlap. Figure 10 shows qualitative ablation benefit, but the manuscript extract supplies no quantitative isolation of the selection criterion (e.g., PSNR/SSIM/LPIPS with vs. without CVO under identical densification, and with random multi-view pairing as a control), no sensitivity analysis of the overlap threshold/schedule, and no verification that selected Gaussians share consistent 3D support across views under strong fisheye distortion. Without these, quality gains may be driven mainly by native projection rather than the claimed regularizer.
- Quantitative support for “matches or surpasses state-of-the-art on public datasets” is incomplete in the provided manuscript body. Claims reference ScanNet++ and Den-SOFT and cite baselines (Fisheye-GS, 3DGUT, MVGS, etc.), yet full comparison tables with standard metrics, number of views, training iterations, and Gaussian counts are not present in the extract; only qualitative Figs. 9–10 appear. For a journal claim of SOTA parity/superiority, complete tables (including error bars or multiple runs if variance is material) and an explicit statement of which baselines used undistorted vs. native fisheye inputs are required so the contribution of native modeling vs. CVO can be assessed.
- The free parameters of CVO (feature-overlap selection threshold/schedule and interaction with standard 3DGS densification/pruning) are not characterized. Because the method invents a new selection step that decides which Gaussians receive joint multi-view updates, the paper should report how sensitive final quality and floater rates are to that threshold, and whether the same schedule transfers from fisheye to pinhole (as claimed). Absent this, the “equally applicable to pinhole pipelines” claim remains an untested assertion rather than a demonstrated result.
minor comments (4)
- The supplied manuscript text jumps from the start of the introduction to Acknowledgments/References and late figures; methods equations, algorithm boxes, and full experimental protocol are missing from the extract. Ensure the camera-model integration (Kannala–Brandt or equivalent) and the exact CVO loss/selection formula appear with numbered equations and a clear algorithm listing.
- Figure 10 caption states “ablation studies on cross-view joint optimization (CVO) with fisheye or pinhole camera inputs” but does not define the exact variants (native only / CVO only / both) or report corresponding metrics next to the images; add a small quantitative inset or companion table.
- Related-work placement of concurrent fisheye/distorted-camera GS works (Fisheye-GS [24], 3DGUT [39], Self-calibrating GS [5]) should more explicitly contrast rasterization-native vs. ray-based or undistort-then-train pipelines so the novelty boundary is crisp.
- Minor prose: “random-selecting-view optimization” and “feature-overlap–driven” are slightly awkward; standardize terminology (e.g., “single-view random sampling” vs. “cross-view joint optimization”) throughout.
Circularity Check
No circular derivation: native fisheye projection plus CVO is an empirical method evaluated on external public datasets, not a result forced by its own definitions or self-citation.
full rationale
DirectFisheye-GS is a systems/methods paper. Its load-bearing claims are (1) integrating a fisheye camera model into the 3DGS rasterizer so training can use native fisheye images without undistortion, and (2) a feature-overlap-driven cross-view joint optimization (CVO) that regularizes Gaussians across views to reduce peripheral floaters. Neither claim is obtained by defining a quantity in terms of the quantity being predicted, nor by fitting a free parameter and then reporting a closely related statistic as a prediction. Performance is measured against external public datasets (e.g., ScanNet++, Den-SOFT) and published baselines (Fisheye-GS, 3DGUT, etc.); the reported PSNR/SSIM/LPIPS-style gains are not algebraically forced by the training objective. Self-citations (e.g., Den-SOFT) supply evaluation data or ordinary background and are not used as uniqueness theorems that forbid alternatives. The skeptic concern that feature-overlap is an imperfect proxy for multi-view correspondence is a validity/assumption risk, not circularity: the method does not redefine success as the overlap measure itself. No step reduces Eq. X to Eq. Y by construction. Score 0 is therefore appropriate.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
free parameters (2)
- feature-overlap selection threshold / schedule
- standard 3DGS densification / pruning / learning-rate schedule
axioms (3)
- domain assumption 3D scene can be adequately represented by a set of anisotropic 3D Gaussians with spherical-harmonic appearance (Kerbl et al. 2023).
- domain assumption A classical polynomial / equidistant fisheye projection model correctly maps 3D points to the observed image plane for the cameras used.
- ad hoc to paper Feature overlap across views is a reliable proxy for geometric correspondence of the same Gaussian.
invented entities (1)
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feature-overlap-driven cross-view joint optimization (CVO)
no independent evidence
read the original abstract
3D Gaussian Splatting (3DGS) has enabled efficient 3D scene reconstruction from everyday images with real-time, high-fidelity rendering, greatly advancing VR/AR applications. Fisheye cameras, with their wider field of view (FOV), promise high-quality reconstructions from fewer inputs and have recently attracted much attention. However, since 3DGS relies on rasterization, most subsequent works involving fisheye camera inputs first undistort images before training, which introduces two problems: 1) Black borders at image edges cause information loss and negate the fisheye's large FOV advantage; 2) Undistortion's stretch-and-interpolate resampling spreads each pixel's value over a larger area, diluting detail density -- causes 3DGS overfitting these low-frequency zones, producing blur and floating artifacts. In this work, we integrate fisheye camera model into the original 3DGS framework, enabling native fisheye image input for training without preprocessing. Despite correct modeling, we observed that the reconstructed scenes still exhibit floaters at image edges: Distortion increases toward the periphery, and 3DGS's original per-iteration random-selecting-view optimization ignores the cross-view correlations of a Gaussian, leading to extreme shapes (e.g., oversized or elongated) that degrade reconstruction quality. To address this, we introduce a feature-overlap-driven cross-view joint optimization strategy that establishes consistent geometric and photometric constraints across views-a technique equally applicable to existing pinhole-camera-based pipelines. Our DirectFisheye-GS matches or surpasses state-of-the-art performance on public datasets. Project Page: https://yzxqh.github.io/DirectFisheye-GS/ .
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