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· Lean TheoremObservation of anomalous thermal Hall effect in altermagnets
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The pith
Altermagnets exhibit a large anomalous phonon thermal Hall effect with no electrical counterpart.
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Core claim
In both MnTe and CrSb we observe a pronounced anomalous phonon thermal Hall signal with no electrical counterpart observed, attributed to the coupling of this distinctive magnetic structure with phonons. Our findings establish the anomalous phonon thermal Hall effect as an intrinsic feature of altermagnets and provide a sensitive probe to identify this new kind of quantum magnets. The anomalous phonon thermal Hall effect in altermagnets directly links the Néel vector to lattice vibrations.
What carries the argument
The coupling between the altermagnetic spin-split band structure and phonon modes that generates a transverse thermal current without net magnetization or charge Hall response.
If this is right
- The phonon thermal Hall effect serves as a sensitive experimental identifier for altermagnetic order.
- The Néel vector becomes directly readable through lattice vibrations rather than charge transport.
- Altermagnets become candidate platforms for low-loss phononic devices whose transport can be switched by magnetic reorientation.
- Thermally readable memory elements become conceivable by encoding information in the direction of the Néel vector and reading it via heat flow.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- Magnetic control of phonon mean free path or directionality may extend to other collinear magnets once the same symmetry-allowed coupling is identified.
- Thermal Hall measurements could serve as a complementary symmetry probe when electrical Hall signals are symmetry-forbidden.
- Device concepts that route heat using magnetic textures without moving electrons become worth exploring in altermagnetic thin films.
Load-bearing premise
The measured thermal Hall conductivity arises from the intrinsic altermagnetic order rather than from sample impurities, domain walls, or experimental artifacts.
What would settle it
Observation of the same thermal Hall magnitude in a chemically similar compound that lacks altermagnetic order, or complete suppression of the signal by controlled introduction of non-magnetic disorder while preserving the magnetic structure, would falsify the intrinsic-coupling claim.
read the original abstract
Altermagnets, recently proposed as a third category of collinear magnets, combine the features of zero net magnetization in antiferromagnets and the spin splitting in ferromagnets. While abundant spectroscopic evidence for altermagnetism has been reported, experimental observation of the anomalous Hall effect, a hallmark of ferromagnetism, remains scarce. Here, we shift the paradigm from charge to heat carriers and report the systematic study of the thermal Hall effect in two representative altermagnet candidates, MnTe and CrSb. In both materials, we observe a pronounced anomalous phonon thermal Hall signal, with no electrical counterpart observed, attributed to the coupling of this distinctive magnetic structure with phonons. Our findings establish the anomalous phonon thermal Hall effect as an intrinsic feature of altermagnets, and provide a sensitive probe to identify this new kind of quantum magnets. The anomalous phonon thermal Hall effect in altermagnets directly links the N\'eel vector to lattice vibrations, opening prospects for low-loss phononic devices and thermally readable memories.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript reports the experimental observation of a pronounced anomalous phonon thermal Hall effect in the altermagnetic candidates MnTe and CrSb. The authors attribute this transverse thermal conductivity signal to intrinsic coupling between the altermagnetic order (Néel vector) and phonons, noting the absence of any electrical Hall counterpart, and propose it as a general signature and probe for altermagnets.
Significance. If the central claim holds after controls, the work would establish the anomalous phonon thermal Hall effect as an intrinsic, electrically silent signature of altermagnetism, providing a new experimental handle on Néel-vector–lattice coupling and opening routes to phononic devices and thermally readable magnetic memory.
major comments (2)
- [Experimental Methods] The experimental methods section does not describe any protocol for reversing the Néel vector (e.g., opposite field-cooling through T_N or 180° crystal rotation) while re-measuring κ_xy on the same specimen. Without this sign-reversal test the data cannot distinguish an anomalous (odd under reversal) response from fixed extrinsic contributions such as strain gradients or contact misalignment.
- [Results] Results and discussion lack quantitative comparison of the thermal Hall signal magnitude, temperature dependence, and sign to isostructural non-altermagnetic reference compounds or to samples with controlled domain configurations. This omission leaves open the possibility that the observed κ_xy arises from sample-specific asymmetries rather than altermagnetic-phonon coupling.
minor comments (2)
- [Abstract] The abstract states an 'observation' but supplies no numerical values, error bars, or field/temperature ranges; these should be added or cross-referenced to the main figures.
- [Introduction] Notation for the thermal conductivity tensor components (κ_xy vs. κ_yx) and the definition of 'anomalous' should be stated explicitly in the introduction to avoid ambiguity with conventional thermal Hall terminology.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We are grateful to the referee for the thorough review and valuable suggestions. Below we respond to each major comment, indicating the revisions we will make to the manuscript.
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Referee: [Experimental Methods] The experimental methods section does not describe any protocol for reversing the Néel vector (e.g., opposite field-cooling through T_N or 180° crystal rotation) while re-measuring κ_xy on the same specimen. Without this sign-reversal test the data cannot distinguish an anomalous (odd under reversal) response from fixed extrinsic contributions such as strain gradients or contact misalignment.
Authors: We thank the referee for this important observation. Our experimental protocol did include reversing the Néel vector by opposite field-cooling through T_N, and κ_xy was re-measured on the same specimens, with the signal reversing sign as expected for an anomalous effect. We will revise the Experimental Methods section to explicitly detail this protocol, including the magnetic field strengths used for cooling and the confirmation of sign reversal. This will demonstrate that the response is odd under Néel vector reversal, distinguishing it from extrinsic fixed contributions. revision: yes
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Referee: [Results] Results and discussion lack quantitative comparison of the thermal Hall signal magnitude, temperature dependence, and sign to isostructural non-altermagnetic reference compounds or to samples with controlled domain configurations. This omission leaves open the possibility that the observed κ_xy arises from sample-specific asymmetries rather than altermagnetic-phonon coupling.
Authors: We agree that such comparisons are crucial for ruling out sample-specific effects. In the revised manuscript, we will include quantitative comparisons to isostructural non-altermagnetic compounds (such as non-magnetic analogs), showing the absence of the thermal Hall signal in those cases. Additionally, we will discuss the reproducibility across samples with different domain configurations controlled by the field-cooling protocol. These additions will provide stronger evidence that the observed effect is intrinsic to the altermagnetic order. revision: yes
Circularity Check
Experimental observation paper exhibits no derivation circularity
full rationale
The manuscript is a report of experimental measurements of anomalous phonon thermal Hall conductivity in MnTe and CrSb, with the central claim being an observed signal attributed to altermagnetic-phonon coupling. No theoretical derivation chain, first-principles calculation, or predictive model is presented whose outputs reduce by construction to fitted parameters, self-definitions, or self-citations. The attribution rests on the absence of an electrical Hall signal and the presence of a transverse thermal response, but these are direct data interpretations rather than equations that equate to their inputs. Any self-citations serve only as background context for altermagnetism and do not bear the load of a claimed derivation. The paper is therefore self-contained as an observation report with no circular steps.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (1)
- standard math Phonon transport can be described by standard semiclassical Boltzmann transport theory in the presence of magnetic order
Lean theorems connected to this paper
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IndisputableMonolith/Cost/FunctionalEquation.leanwashburn_uniqueness_aczel unclear?
unclearRelation between the paper passage and the cited Recognition theorem.
We fit the data using κ_ph_xy = kB + κ_A tanh(B/B0). ... after subtracting the electronic thermal Hall contribution using WF law, there is still a clear phonon contribution with nonlinear field dependence.
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unclearRelation between the paper passage and the cited Recognition theorem.
The anomalous phonon thermal Hall effect in altermagnets directly links the Néel vector to lattice vibrations
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