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LLMs Should Express Uncertainty Explicitly
Pith reviewed 2026-05-15 07:08 UTC · model grok-4.3
The pith
Post-training lets LLMs explicitly signal uncertainty either during or after reasoning.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
The paper claims that post-training LLMs to produce either an end-of-reasoning verbalized confidence score or a during-reasoning <uncertain> marker reduces overconfident errors and improves answer quality on factual reasoning tasks. The end-of-reasoning version sharpens an existing confidence-related structure in the pretrained model, while the during-reasoning version teaches the model to flag high-risk steps with parameter changes concentrated in late layers.
What carries the argument
Two explicit self-assessment mechanisms: verbalized end-of-reasoning confidence scores and during-reasoning <uncertain> token emission.
Load-bearing premise
That post-training on these uncertainty signals will make the model reflect genuine internal uncertainty rather than simply learning to output the markers without changing its actual reasoning.
What would settle it
An evaluation on held-out factual questions showing that the trained models still produce high-confidence incorrect answers at the same rate as the base model.
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Large language models (LLMs) often produce confident yet incorrect answers, which can lead to risky failures in real-world applications. We study whether post-training can make a model's self-assessment explicit: when the model is uncertain, can it be trained to signal so within its own response? A central design question is where in the response this signal should be exposed -- during reasoning, while the answer is still being formed, or at the end, once the answer has been produced. We study both. For end-of-reasoning self-assessment, we train the model to verbalize a confidence score for its response, with the aim of high confidence on correct answers and low confidence on incorrect ones. For during-reasoning self-assessment, we train the model to emit the marker <uncertain> whenever its current reasoning state appears unreliable. Across factual reasoning tasks, both forms sharply reduce overconfident errors while improving answer quality, and both can be used as triggers for retrieval augmented generation (RAG) to improve the final response. We further analyze their internal mechanisms: end-of-reasoning verbalized confidence sharpens a confidence-related structure already present in the pretrained model, whereas during-reasoning <uncertain> emission teaches the model to mark high-risk reasoning steps, with parameter changes concentrated in the model's late layers.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript proposes two post-training approaches for LLMs to make uncertainty explicit: verbalizing a confidence score at the end of reasoning (high on correct answers, low on incorrect) and emitting an <uncertain> marker during reasoning when the current state appears unreliable. It claims both sharply reduce overconfident errors and improve answer quality on factual reasoning tasks, that the signals can trigger RAG to improve final responses, and that the methods operate via distinct internal mechanisms (sharpening existing confidence structures for verbalized scores versus late-layer changes for marking high-risk steps).
Significance. If the empirical claims hold and the signals genuinely track internal reasoning reliability rather than surface correlations, the work would be significant for improving LLM trustworthiness in applications where overconfident errors carry risk. The two methods offer practical, deployable ways to surface uncertainty and the mechanistic analysis provides insight into how post-training affects model internals differently for each approach.
major comments (1)
- [Internal mechanisms analysis] Internal mechanisms analysis: The reported concentration of parameter changes in late layers for <uncertain> emission is consistent with marking high-risk steps but does not distinguish this from the model learning a direct input-to-marker mapping based solely on final-answer correctness labels. Since supervision derives from answer correctness rather than any internal uncertainty estimate, additional evidence (such as representation probing or OOD tests) is required to support the claim that the training produces explicit self-assessment of reasoning reliability.
minor comments (1)
- [Abstract] Abstract: Claims of 'sharp reductions' in overconfident errors and quality improvements are stated without any quantitative metrics, baselines, dataset sizes, or statistical details; these should be added to the abstract to allow immediate assessment of effect sizes.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the constructive feedback on our manuscript. We address the major comment on the internal mechanisms analysis point by point below. We agree that additional evidence would strengthen the claims and will incorporate it in the revision.
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Referee: Internal mechanisms analysis: The reported concentration of parameter changes in late layers for <uncertain> emission is consistent with marking high-risk steps but does not distinguish this from the model learning a direct input-to-marker mapping based solely on final-answer correctness labels. Since supervision derives from answer correctness rather than any internal uncertainty estimate, additional evidence (such as representation probing or OOD tests) is required to support the claim that the training produces explicit self-assessment of reasoning reliability.
Authors: We agree that the supervision signal originates from final-answer correctness labels, which in principle permits a direct input-to-marker mapping. However, the observed concentration of parameter changes in late layers (which integrate higher-level reasoning rather than surface mappings) and the fact that the marker is emitted at intermediate reasoning steps (not solely at the end) provide evidence that the model is responding to reasoning-state reliability. To further distinguish these possibilities, we will add representation probing experiments and OOD tests in the revised manuscript demonstrating that <uncertain> activations correlate with internal uncertainty signals beyond what final correctness alone would predict. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity; claims rest on empirical training outcomes
full rationale
The paper presents an empirical study of post-training LLMs to emit explicit uncertainty signals (verbalized confidence scores or <uncertain> markers). All central claims are supported by experimental results on factual reasoning tasks rather than any mathematical derivation, fitted parameter, or self-referential definition. No equations appear in the provided text, and no load-bearing step reduces to a self-citation chain or input-by-construction. The training signal (answer correctness) is external to the model's internal representations, so the reported improvements do not constitute a circular re-labeling of the same data. This is the expected non-finding for a purely empirical methods paper.
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