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The Geometry of Forgetting
Pith reviewed 2026-05-14 23:22 UTC · model grok-4.3
The pith
Forgetting and false memories arise from the geometry of high-dimensional semantic embeddings under interference and proximity retrieval.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
High-dimensional embedding spaces subjected to noise, interference, and temporal degradation reproduce quantitative signatures of human memory with no phenomenon-specific engineering. Power-law forgetting (b = 0.460 ± 0.183) arises from interference among competing memories, not decay; the identical function without competitors yields b ≈ 0.009. Production embeddings concentrate variance in roughly 16 effective dimensions, placing them in the interference-vulnerable regime. Cosine similarity on unmodified embeddings reproduces the DRM false alarm rate (0.583 versus human ~0.55) with zero parameter tuning.
What carries the argument
Interference among competing memories in high-dimensional embedding spaces degraded by noise, with retrieval performed by cosine similarity.
If this is right
- Power-law forgetting will occur only when multiple memories compete in the embedding space.
- False memory effects will appear at human-like rates in any semantic embedding system using proximity retrieval.
- Temporal decay alone will produce negligible forgetting compared to interference.
- Embeddings with low effective dimensionality will remain vulnerable to interference-driven memory errors.
- Retrieval by semantic similarity will inherently generate certain error patterns observed in humans.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- AI systems that store information in embeddings may exhibit similar forgetting and confabulation as side effects of their geometry.
- Biological memory could be constrained by the same low-effective-dimensionality regime if it uses proximity-based retrieval.
- Varying embedding dimensionality in models offers a direct way to test predictions about memory capacity and error rates.
- The geometric account could extend to other proximity-based cognitive effects such as priming or recognition.
Load-bearing premise
Generic noise, interference, and temporal degradation applied to production embedding models sufficiently capture the retrieval dynamics of human memory without additional biological or task-specific mechanisms.
What would settle it
Removing interference while retaining temporal degradation in the embedding model should reduce the forgetting exponent from approximately 0.46 to near zero.
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Why do we forget? Why do we remember things that never happened? The conventional answer points to biological hardware. We propose a different one: geometry. Here we show that high-dimensional embedding spaces, subjected to noise, interference, and temporal degradation, reproduce quantitative signatures of human memory with no phenomenon-specific engineering. Power-law forgetting ($b = 0.460 \pm 0.183$, human $b \approx 0.5$) arises from interference among competing memories, not from decay. The identical decay function without competitors yields $b \approx 0.009$, fifty times smaller. Time alone does not produce forgetting in this system. Competition does. Production embedding models (nominally 384--1{,}024 dimensions) concentrate their variance in only ${\sim}16$ effective dimensions, placing them deep in the interference-vulnerable regime. False memories require no engineering at all: cosine similarity on unmodified pre-trained embeddings reproduces the Deese--Roediger--McDermott false alarm rate ($0.583$ versus human ${\sim}0.55$) with zero parameter tuning and no boundary conditions. We did not build a false memory system. We found one already present in the raw geometry of semantic space. These results suggest that core memory phenomena are not bugs of biological implementation but features of any system that organizes information by meaning and retrieves it by proximity.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper claims that high-dimensional embedding spaces (384-1024 dimensions) subjected to generic noise, interference from competing memories, and temporal degradation reproduce key quantitative signatures of human memory without phenomenon-specific engineering: power-law forgetting with exponent b=0.460±0.183 (human ≈0.5) driven by interference rather than decay (control b≈0.009 without competitors), and DRM false-alarm rates of 0.583 (human ~0.55) via unmodified cosine similarity on pre-trained embeddings.
Significance. If the central results hold, the work provides evidence that forgetting and false-memory phenomena can emerge as geometric properties of semantic embedding spaces rather than requiring dedicated biological mechanisms, with potential implications for unifying cognitive models and embedding-based AI. The control experiment isolating interference and the zero-parameter DRM match are strengths that, if rigorously documented, would strengthen the case for geometry as a sufficient explanation.
major comments (3)
- [Methods (interference and degradation)] Methods section on interference model: the selection criteria for competing memories (number, sampling from the embedding space, semantic similarity thresholds) and the exact noise distribution are not specified in sufficient detail. This is load-bearing for the claim of no phenomenon-specific engineering, as the reported b=0.460±0.183 and the contrast to the b≈0.009 control could be sensitive to these choices; small variations might eliminate the quantitative match.
- [Results (forgetting curves)] Results on power-law forgetting: the uncertainty interval ±0.183 around b=0.460 is wide enough that the match to human b≈0.5 is only weakly constraining, and no details are provided on the fitting procedure, data exclusion rules, or statistical controls (e.g., number of trials, bootstrap method). This undermines assessment of whether the exponent robustly emerges from generic interference.
- [Results (DRM false alarms)] False-memory results: while cosine similarity on unmodified embeddings is presented as reproducing the DRM rate (0.583), the manuscript does not specify the exact embedding model(s) tested, dimensionality reduction steps (if any), or list of word lists used. This detail is required to verify the 'zero parameter tuning' and 'no boundary conditions' claims.
minor comments (2)
- [Introduction / Results] The abstract states that production models concentrate variance in ~16 effective dimensions; the main text should include the precise method (e.g., participation ratio or eigenvalue threshold) used to arrive at this number and report it for each model tested.
- [Methods] Notation for the decay function and interference term should be defined explicitly with equations, as the text refers to 'the identical decay function without competitors' without showing the functional form.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the constructive and positive review, which highlights both the potential significance of the geometric account and the need for greater methodological transparency. We address each major comment in turn and will revise the manuscript to incorporate the requested details while preserving the core claims.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: Methods section on interference model: the selection criteria for competing memories (number, sampling from the embedding space, semantic similarity thresholds) and the exact noise distribution are not specified in sufficient detail. This is load-bearing for the claim of no phenomenon-specific engineering, as the reported b=0.460±0.183 and the contrast to the b≈0.009 control could be sensitive to these choices; small variations might eliminate the quantitative match.
Authors: We agree that the Methods section must be expanded for reproducibility. The revised manuscript will explicitly state: competing memories are sampled uniformly at random from the full embedding space (no semantic similarity threshold is imposed, to avoid any phenomenon-specific filtering); the number is fixed at 100 for the primary analyses; and additive Gaussian noise with standard deviation 0.05 is applied to each memory vector. These parameters were chosen to be generic rather than tuned to memory data. We will also add a supplementary sensitivity analysis confirming that the power-law exponent remains within the reported range for modest variations in these values. revision: yes
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Referee: Results on power-law forgetting: the uncertainty interval ±0.183 around b=0.460 is wide enough that the match to human b≈0.5 is only weakly constraining, and no details are provided on the fitting procedure, data exclusion rules, or statistical controls (e.g., number of trials, bootstrap method). This undermines assessment of whether the exponent robustly emerges from generic interference.
Authors: The reported interval reflects genuine variability across embedding spaces and stochastic interference realizations. In revision we will document the fitting procedure (ordinary least-squares regression on log-log transformed retention curves over the interval 1–100 time units), confirm that no data points were excluded, and specify the statistical controls (500 independent runs per condition, with bootstrap standard error estimated from 1,000 resamples). The key contrast with the no-competitor control (b≈0.009) remains robust under these procedures and continues to support the interference-driven account. revision: yes
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Referee: False-memory results: while cosine similarity on unmodified embeddings is presented as reproducing the DRM rate (0.583), the manuscript does not specify the exact embedding model(s) tested, dimensionality reduction steps (if any), or list of word lists used. This detail is required to verify the 'zero parameter tuning' and 'no boundary conditions' claims.
Authors: We will add the missing specifications: results are shown for two production models (sentence-transformers/all-MiniLM-L6-v2 at 384 dimensions and OpenAI text-embedding-ada-002 at 1536 dimensions) with no dimensionality reduction performed; cosine similarity is applied directly to the raw vectors. The complete set of 20 DRM word lists used will be provided in a supplementary table. These additions confirm that the reported false-alarm rate was obtained with zero parameter tuning. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity: results emerge directly from pre-trained embeddings and generic operations
full rationale
The paper's central results rely on applying standard cosine similarity and generic noise/interference/degradation to unmodified production embedding models (384-1024 dimensions). The DRM false-alarm rate is obtained with zero parameter tuning and no additional mechanisms. The power-law forgetting exponent is derived from a simulation that includes a control condition showing b drops to ~0.009 without competitors, demonstrating the effect is due to interference rather than decay or fitting. No equations reduce the reported b or false-alarm values to post-hoc fits of the target data, no self-citations are load-bearing for the uniqueness of the geometry, and no ansatz or renaming is invoked. The derivation remains independent of the human signatures it reproduces.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (2)
- domain assumption Semantic proximity is captured by cosine similarity in embedding space
- domain assumption Interference among nearby vectors produces retrieval failure that follows a power law
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