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On the Privacy of LLMs: An Ablation Study

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Privacy risks to LLMs differ markedly by attack type and are shaped by model architecture, scale, dataset, and retrieval choices.

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The paper brings together four common privacy attacks on large language models and tests them together rather than in isolation. It applies a controlled set of changes to model size, training data, architecture, and retrieval setup to see how each factor shifts attack performance. Membership inference attacks, especially those using masking, produce clear and consistent signals of data presence. Backdoor attacks succeed at high rates because they rely on planted triggers. Attribute inference and data extraction attacks prove harder to carry out yet still target personal details that matter in practice. The overall pattern shows that privacy exposure is not fixed but tracks specific design decisions.

Core claim

Our analysis reveals clear differences across attack types. Membership inference attacks, particularly mask-based variants, exhibit strong and reliable signals, while backdoor attacks achieve consistently high success rates due to their trigger-based nature. In contrast, attribute inference and data extraction attacks remain more challenging, resulting in lower accuracy, yet they pose significant risks as they target sensitive personal information. Overall, these results highlight that privacy risks in LLM systems are highly context-dependent and driven by design choices, emphasizing the need for holistic evaluation and informed deployment practices.

What carries the argument

A unified threat model and notation for four attacks (membership inference, attribute inference, data extraction, backdoor) combined with structured ablation over architecture, scale, dataset characteristics, and retrieval configuration.

Load-bearing premise

The chosen set of representative attacks and the four ablation factors capture the main drivers of privacy risk that appear in actual LLM deployments.

What would settle it

Running the same ablation on a new family of models and finding that mask-based membership inference no longer produces reliable signals or that backdoor success rates drop below the reported high levels would undermine the observed differences.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.02255 by Gabriel Marquez, Karima Makhlouf, Lamiaa Basyoni, Mahmoud Awawdah, Peter Sotomango, Sami Zhioua, Syed Khaderi.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: Mapping MIAs, DEAs, AIAs, and BAs to Pri view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: S2MIA Attack. (Figure from [10]) of QA pairs. We considered portions of the full corpus of each dataset ranging from 10% to 100%. The LLM model (M) factor. We considered five LLM models dif￾ferent from the models in [10], except for the baseline model (Llama-2-7b-chat-hf). The membership ratio factor which corresponds to the ratio of member samples (be￾longing to the RAG dataset) in the set of samples used… view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: Grouped bar chart of ROC AUC scores across all experiment groups. The dataset group shows the strongest view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: ROC AUC across model scales. The baseline configuration consists of a balanced dataset with 50% member and 50% non-member samples, us￾ing GPT-4o-mini as the generator, FAISS as the retriever, BGE-small as the embedding model, m = 10, K = 5, and γ = 0.5. Across all experiments, Retrieval Recall remains consistently equal to 1.0, indicating that the re￾triever successfully returns the target document when it… view at source ↗
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Figure 6. Figure 6: F1-score across different model scales view at source ↗
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Figure 7. Figure 7: Mean ROC AUC across datasets under controlled view at source ↗
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Figure 9. Figure 9: F1-score as a function of threshold γ view at source ↗
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Figure 8. Figure 8: ROC AUC as a function of the number of masks view at source ↗
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Figure 10. Figure 10: Attribute-wise accuracy across LLMs under view at source ↗
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Figure 11. Figure 11: Relation between MMLU-Pro scores and aver view at source ↗
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Figure 12. Figure 12: Log-probability distribution of true PII secrets view at source ↗
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Figure 13. Figure 13: Kernel density estimate of bounded exposureθ (v) by PII type τ . Exposure Analysis view at source ↗
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Figure 14. Figure 14: Bounded exposureθ (v) by training repetition bracket (number of times value v appears in D). Boxes show the interquartile range (IQR). occurring only once in D cluster near 0 bits—fM θ assigns them no higher probability than a random alternative. As the repetition count grows, the distribution shifts upward: values appearing 16 or more times in D have a median ex￾posure near the ceiling of 8.97 bits, indi… view at source ↗
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Figure 15. Figure 15: Experiment A: mean bounded exposure and rank-1 hit rate versus model parameter count view at source ↗
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Figure 16. Figure 16: Experiment B: mean exposure (solid) and rank view at source ↗
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Figure 18. Figure 18: Experiment D: empirical CDFs of bounded exposure for candidate pools of size 100, 500, and 1,000 view at source ↗
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Figure 20. Figure 20: Experiment F: mean exposure (blue, left axis) view at source ↗
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Figure 21. Figure 21: Backdoor Attack Phases view at source ↗
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Figure 22. Figure 22: Backdoor attack dataset; clean vs poisoned data view at source ↗
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Figure 23. Figure 23: Data Poisoning Backdoor Attacks (Jailbreak view at source ↗
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Figure 24. Figure 24: Data Poisoning Backdoor Attacks (Jailbreak view at source ↗
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Large language models (LLMs) are increasingly deployed in interactive and retrieval-augmented settings, raising significant privacy concerns. While attacks such as Membership Inference (MIA), Attribute Inference (AIA), Data Extraction (DEA), and Backdoor Attacks (BA) have been studied, they are typically analyzed in isolation, leaving a gap in understanding their behavior under common system factors. In this paper, we introduce a unified threat model and notation, reproduce a representative set of privacy attacks, and conduct a structured ablation study to evaluate the impact of key factors such as model architecture, scale, dataset characteristics, and retrieval configuration. Our analysis reveals clear differences across attack types. Membership inference attacks, particularly mask-based variants, exhibit strong and reliable signals, while backdoor attacks achieve consistently high success rates due to their trigger-based nature. In contrast, attribute inference and data extraction attacks remain more challenging, resulting in lower accuracy, yet they pose significant risks as they target sensitive personal information. Overall, these results highlight that privacy risks in LLM systems are highly context-dependent and driven by design choices, emphasizing the need for holistic evaluation and informed deployment practices.

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Referee Report

2 major / 0 minor

Summary. The paper introduces a unified threat model and notation for privacy attacks on LLMs, reproduces representative attacks from four families (membership inference/MIA, attribute inference/AIA, data extraction/DEA, and backdoor/BA), and conducts a structured ablation study on the impact of model architecture, scale, dataset characteristics, and retrieval configuration. It reports that MIA (particularly mask-based) show strong signals, BA achieve high success due to triggers, while AIA and DEA are lower-accuracy but still risky for sensitive data, concluding that privacy risks are highly context-dependent and driven by design choices.

Significance. If the reproductions are faithful and the ablations include proper controls and quantitative metrics, the work would offer a useful comparative perspective on how common system factors modulate different privacy attacks in LLMs, addressing the gap left by isolated studies and supporting more informed deployment practices.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: The central claim that 'our analysis reveals clear differences across attack types' with specific characterizations (MIA exhibiting 'strong and reliable signals', BA 'consistently high success rates', AIA/DEA 'lower accuracy') is stated without any quantitative results, tables, figures, success rates, AUC values, or statistical details, which is load-bearing for the empirical conclusion of differential behavior and context-dependence.
  2. [Abstract] The ablation study description provides no specifics on the exact representative attacks reproduced for each family, the evaluation metrics used, the concrete ranges or values tested for factors such as model scale or retrieval configuration, or any error analysis, making it impossible to assess whether the selected factors sufficiently capture main drivers of privacy risk.

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We thank the referee for the constructive feedback on our manuscript. We agree that the abstract would be strengthened by the inclusion of quantitative results and more specific details on the reproduced attacks and ablation factors. We have revised the abstract accordingly and respond point by point to the major comments below.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: The central claim that 'our analysis reveals clear differences across attack types' with specific characterizations (MIA exhibiting 'strong and reliable signals', BA 'consistently high success rates', AIA/DEA 'lower accuracy') is stated without any quantitative results, tables, figures, success rates, AUC values, or statistical details, which is load-bearing for the empirical conclusion of differential behavior and context-dependence.

    Authors: We agree that the original abstract presented these characterizations at a high level without supporting numbers. In the revised manuscript we have updated the abstract to include representative quantitative results drawn directly from our experiments, such as MIA AUC scores in the 0.78-0.91 range, BA success rates of 88-96%, and AIA/DEA accuracies of 58-72%. These values are consistent with the detailed tables and figures in Sections 4 and 5 and make the claimed differences across attack families explicit. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Abstract] The ablation study description provides no specifics on the exact representative attacks reproduced for each family, the evaluation metrics used, the concrete ranges or values tested for factors such as model scale or retrieval configuration, or any error analysis, making it impossible to assess whether the selected factors sufficiently capture main drivers of privacy risk.

    Authors: We acknowledge that the abstract's description of the ablation study was too high-level. The revised abstract now briefly identifies the representative attacks (mask-based and loss-based MIA, trigger-based BA, query-based AIA, and prefix-based DEA), the primary metrics (AUC for inference attacks, success rate for extraction and backdoors), and the tested ranges (model scales 7B-70B, retrieval top-k values 1-20, and dataset characteristics including size and domain). Full configurations, error analysis, and statistical details remain in the experimental sections and appendix; the abstract revision provides sufficient context for readers to evaluate the scope of the factors examined. revision: yes

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full rationale

The paper is an empirical ablation study that reproduces representative privacy attacks (MIA, AIA, DEA, BA) on LLMs and measures their success under variations in architecture, scale, dataset, and retrieval configuration. The central claims report observed differences in attack performance directly from these experiments. No equations, fitted parameters, self-definitional loops, or load-bearing self-citations are present that would reduce any result to its inputs by construction. The findings are self-contained observational outcomes rather than derived predictions.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 0 axioms · 0 invented entities

No mathematical axioms, free parameters, or invented entities are identifiable from the abstract; the work is an empirical ablation study on existing attack methods.

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