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Redshift Evolution of the Ratio of Supermassive Black Hole Mass to Stellar Mass
Pith reviewed 2026-05-08 17:22 UTC · model grok-4.3
The pith
The ratio of supermassive black hole mass to stellar mass reaches a broad peak of a few percent to 30 percent at redshifts 7 to 10 before declining as a power law toward the present day.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
Within this framework, M_BH/M_star exhibits a broad peak at z~7--10, reaching a few percent up to ~30%, followed by a steady, approximately power-law decline toward z=0. The model predicts M_BH/M_star~(0.002,0.003,0.006,0.016,0.071,0.156) at z=(0,1,2,3,5,10), consistent with available observations. This evolution is driven by rapid SMBH growth at high redshift, with effective mass e-folding times shorter than those of stellar mass, while at later times galaxy growth dominates, leading to the decline in M_BH/M_star. These results demonstrate that the emergence of a high-redshift peak and subsequent decline is robust despite uncertainties in the duty-cycle normalization.
What carries the argument
The redshift-dependent effective Eddington duty cycle f_duty=0.0004(1+z)^3, used together with analytic halo assembly histories to extend the simulation results from z=10 down to z=0.
If this is right
- Black holes grow faster than stars at high redshift because the allowed accretion rate exceeds the Eddington limit early on.
- At lower redshifts ordinary galaxy assembly outpaces black-hole accretion, driving the ratio downward.
- The same decline pattern appears across a range of duty-cycle normalizations, so the overall shape is insensitive to that uncertainty.
- The model supplies specific ratio values at redshifts 0 through 10 that observers can compare against future data.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The predicted power-law decline could be tested by measuring the ratio in galaxies at intermediate redshifts between 3 and 6.
- If the peak is real, feedback from black holes may become relatively more important for regulating galaxy growth after redshift 7.
- The framework implies that the local black-hole-to-stellar-mass relation is the end point of an earlier phase of rapid black-hole assembly rather than a constant scaling.
Load-bearing premise
The effective Eddington duty cycle scales as 0.0004 times (1+z) cubed and super-Eddington accretion is permitted before the final self-regulated phase.
What would settle it
A direct observational measurement at z approximately 8 that finds the black-hole-to-stellar-mass ratio below a few percent would contradict the predicted broad peak.
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We run and analyze a suite of high-redshift zoom-in cosmological simulations with varying supernova feedback and supermassive black hole (SMBH) accretion prescriptions to study the joint evolution of stellar and SMBH mass in high-redshift galaxies down to $z=10$. The simulations reproduce the observed high-$z$ $M_{\mathrm{BH}}/M_{\star}$ relation if super-Eddington accretion is allowed prior to the final self-regulated phase. To extend the evolution to lower redshift, we model subsequent black hole and host growth using analytic halo assembly histories combined with a redshift-dependent effective Eddington duty cycle, $f_{\rm duty}=0.0004(1+z)^3$, calibrated to observations at $z\le6$, with conservative uncertainties at higher redshift. Within this framework, $M_{\mathrm{BH}}/M_{\star}$ exhibits a broad peak at $z\sim7$--10, reaching a few percent up to $\sim30\%$, followed by a steady, approximately power-law decline toward $z=0$. The model predicts $M_{\mathrm{BH}}/M_{\star}\sim(0.002,0.003,0.006,0.016,0.071,0.156)$ at $z=(0,1,2,3,5,10)$, consistent with available observations. This evolution is driven by rapid SMBH growth at high redshift, with effective mass e-folding times shorter than those of stellar mass, while at later times galaxy growth dominates, leading to the decline in $M_{\mathrm{BH}}/M_{\star}$. These results demonstrate that the emergence of a high-redshift peak and subsequent decline is robust despite uncertainties in the duty-cycle normalization.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript runs high-redshift zoom-in cosmological simulations with varying supernova feedback and SMBH accretion prescriptions, finding that the observed high-z M_BH/M_star relation is reproduced when super-Eddington accretion is allowed prior to self-regulation. To extend to lower redshifts, it combines analytic halo assembly histories with a redshift-dependent effective Eddington duty cycle f_duty = 0.0004(1+z)^3 calibrated to observations at z ≤ 6. Within this framework, M_BH/M_star shows a broad peak at z ~ 7-10 (reaching a few percent to ~30%), followed by an approximately power-law decline to z = 0, with predicted values M_BH/M_star ~ (0.002, 0.003, 0.006, 0.016, 0.071, 0.156) at z = (0, 1, 2, 3, 5, 10) stated to be consistent with observations. The evolution is driven by rapid early SMBH growth outpacing stellar mass assembly, with the decline occurring as galaxy growth dominates at later times. The authors conclude the peak-and-decline behavior is robust to uncertainties in duty-cycle normalization.
Significance. If the analytic extension holds, the work offers a unified description of M_BH/M_star evolution from z ~ 10 to z = 0, linking simulation results at the highest redshifts to lower-z data and highlighting the role of super-Eddington phases in early BH growth. The combination of zoom-in simulations with analytic halo histories is a constructive approach for bridging regimes, and the explicit claim of robustness to normalization variations provides a useful sensitivity test. However, the predictive power for the peak location and low-z decline is constrained by the calibration of the duty-cycle form, limiting its status as an independent prediction.
major comments (3)
- [analytic model / duty-cycle parametrization] The analytic extension (following the simulation results) adopts f_duty = 0.0004(1+z)^3 calibrated exclusively to observations at z ≤ 6 and extrapolates this form both to z > 6 (to produce the claimed peak) and to z < 6 (to produce the decline). Because the low-redshift M_BH/M_star values are generated by the same functional form used to fit the calibration data, the stated consistency at z = 0-5 is not an independent test; the manuscript should demonstrate that the peak-and-decline shape persists under alternative functional forms (e.g., a broken power law or different index) or provide a quantitative assessment of how much the index can vary before the peak disappears.
- [results / predicted ratios] The quoted M_BH/M_star ratios at z = (0,1,2,3,5,10) are presented without error bars, chi-squared statistics, or residuals relative to the observational data used for calibration. Given that the duty-cycle normalization and redshift scaling are fitted to z ≤ 6 data, the absence of fit-quality metrics makes it impossible to judge whether the model reproduces the calibration data at an acceptable level or merely reproduces it by construction.
- [simulation-to-analytic transition] The transition from zoom-in simulations (valid to z = 10) to analytic halo assembly histories assumes that the same f_duty form remains applicable immediately below z = 10, yet no sensitivity test is shown for the choice of transition redshift or for continuity of the time-averaged accretion rate across the boundary. This assumption is load-bearing for the location of the peak at z ~ 7-10.
minor comments (2)
- [abstract] The abstract asserts that the predictions are 'consistent with available observations' but supplies neither uncertainties on the quoted ratios nor any quantitative measure of agreement; these should be added to the main text and abstract.
- [methods] The definition of the 'effective Eddington duty cycle' and how it is averaged over the accretion history should be stated more explicitly, including its relation to the super-Eddington assumption used in the simulations.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the thoughtful and constructive report. We address each major comment below and have revised the manuscript accordingly to improve clarity and robustness.
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Referee: The analytic extension adopts f_duty = 0.0004(1+z)^3 calibrated exclusively to observations at z ≤ 6 and extrapolates this form both to z > 6 (to produce the claimed peak) and to z < 6 (to produce the decline). Because the low-redshift M_BH/M_star values are generated by the same functional form used to fit the calibration data, the stated consistency at z = 0-5 is not an independent test; the manuscript should demonstrate that the peak-and-decline shape persists under alternative functional forms (e.g., a broken power law or different index) or provide a quantitative assessment of how much the index can vary before the peak disappears.
Authors: We agree that the low-redshift predictions are tied to the functional form calibrated at z ≤ 6 and thus do not constitute a fully independent test. The high-redshift peak, however, is driven primarily by the zoom-in simulation results that permit super-Eddington accretion before self-regulation. The adopted power-law form for f_duty is chosen because it provides a simple parametrization that reproduces the observed decline in AGN activity toward low redshift. In the revised manuscript we add a quantitative sensitivity analysis in which we vary the redshift index from (1+z)^2 to (1+z)^4 while keeping the normalization fixed at z=0; we show that the broad peak at z ~ 7-10 persists for all indices steeper than ~2.5. We also briefly discuss the effect of a broken-power-law alternative and note that the qualitative peak-and-decline behavior is insensitive to these choices provided the duty cycle rises sufficiently rapidly at high redshift. revision: partial
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Referee: The quoted M_BH/M_star ratios at z = (0,1,2,3,5,10) are presented without error bars, chi-squared statistics, or residuals relative to the observational data used for calibration. Given that the duty-cycle normalization and redshift scaling are fitted to z ≤ 6 data, the absence of fit-quality metrics makes it impossible to judge whether the model reproduces the calibration data at an acceptable level or merely reproduces it by construction.
Authors: We accept this criticism. The revised manuscript now includes the χ² value of the fit to the z ≤ 6 observational compilation, together with residuals at each calibration redshift. We also attach conservative uncertainty bands to the quoted M_BH/M_star ratios that reflect the range of duty-cycle normalizations still consistent with the data within 1σ. revision: yes
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Referee: The transition from zoom-in simulations (valid to z = 10) to analytic halo assembly histories assumes that the same f_duty form remains applicable immediately below z = 10, yet no sensitivity test is shown for the choice of transition redshift or for continuity of the time-averaged accretion rate across the boundary. This assumption is load-bearing for the location of the peak at z ~ 7-10.
Authors: We have added a new subsection that tests the sensitivity of the peak location to the transition redshift. We repeat the analytic continuation starting at z_trans = 8, 10, and 12 and demonstrate that the broad maximum remains between z ~ 7 and 10 in all cases, provided the simulations have already captured the super-Eddington growth phase. We further verify continuity by comparing the time-averaged accretion rate just above and below the boundary; the difference is < 15 % for our fiducial choice and does not shift the peak redshift outside the quoted range. revision: yes
Circularity Check
f_duty calibration to z≤6 observations forces low-z M_BH/M_star predictions by construction
specific steps
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fitted input called prediction
[Abstract]
"To extend the evolution to lower redshift, we model subsequent black hole and host growth using analytic halo assembly histories combined with a redshift-dependent effective Eddington duty cycle, f_duty=0.0004(1+z)^3, calibrated to observations at z≤6, with conservative uncertainties at higher redshift. ... The model predicts M_BH/M_star∼(0.002,0.003,0.006,0.016,0.071,0.156) at z=(0,1,2,3,5,10), consistent with available observations."
f_duty parameters are calibrated to observations at z≤6, so the model 'predicts' and finds consistency for M_BH/M_star at z=0-5 (within calibration range) by construction. The decline toward z=0 follows directly from the decreasing f_duty at low z per the fitted functional form, rather than emerging as a new result.
full rationale
The paper's high-z results (peak at z~7-10) derive from zoom-in simulations that independently reproduce observed M_BH/M_star ratios when super-Eddington accretion is permitted. However, extension to z<10 uses analytic halo histories plus the specific f_duty=0.0004(1+z)^3 form calibrated to observations at z≤6; the listed ratios at z=0,1,2,3,5 and the power-law decline are then direct outputs of that calibration and assumed redshift scaling rather than independent predictions. This constitutes partial circularity in the low-z regime and overall evolutionary shape, while the high-z simulation anchor prevents a higher score.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
free parameters (2)
- duty-cycle normalization =
0.0004
- redshift power-law index =
3
axioms (2)
- domain assumption Super-Eddington accretion is allowed prior to the final self-regulated phase
- domain assumption The calibrated duty-cycle form remains applicable at z>6 with only conservative uncertainties
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