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· Lean TheoremHow Well Do LLMs Perform on the Simplest Long-Chain Reasoning Tasks: An Empirical Study on the Equivalence Class Problem
Pith reviewed 2026-05-11 01:26 UTC · model grok-4.3
The pith
Non-reasoning large language models fail to determine variable equivalence from given relations, while reasoning models improve but still fall short.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
The authors establish that the Equivalence Class Problem serves as a minimal test for long-chain reasoning, where non-reasoning LLMs consistently fail to track equalities correctly across multiple relations, reasoning LLMs show marked improvement yet still err on a substantial fraction of instances, and the peak difficulty for reasoning models occurs when the relation graph has its largest diameter.
What carries the argument
The Equivalence Class Problem (ECP), which requires inferring whether two variables belong to the same class by chaining multiple equivalence statements.
Load-bearing premise
The randomly generated equivalence relations with different connectivity probabilities represent a fair test of long-chain reasoning ability without being confounded by other model limitations.
What would settle it
A demonstration that some LLM solves every ECP instance correctly for numbers of variables up to 20 and all connectivity probabilities would falsify the claim that LLMs struggle to completely solve this problem.
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Large Language Models (LLMs) have achieved great improvements in recent years. Nevertheless, it still remains unclear how good LLMs are for reasoning tasks, especially for long-chain ones. In this paper, we evaluate LLMs' performance on the simplest yet long-chain reasoning task, namely the Equivalence Class Problem (ECP), i.e., determining whether two variables are equal given a set of randomly generated equivalence relations. We consider both reasoning and non-reasoning representative LLMs over a large variety of problem instances, ranging over different numbers of variables, connectivity probabilities, prompts, and other factors. The experimental results show that non-reasoning LLMs fail ECP, while reasoning models are significantly better but still struggle to completely solve this problem. Interestingly, considering various connectivity probabilities with a fixed number of variables, we observe that, for non-reasoning models, the hardest problem instances coincide with the phase transition point of ln n/(n-1), suggesting the chaos of the problem; in contrast, for reasoning models, the hardest ones coincide with the biggest diameter, suggesting the reasoning difficulty of the problem.
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The paper empirically evaluates LLMs on the Equivalence Class Problem (ECP): given randomly generated equivalence relations over n variables, determine whether two specified variables are equivalent. It tests representative reasoning and non-reasoning models across varying n, connectivity probabilities p, and prompts. Main results: non-reasoning models largely fail ECP while reasoning models perform substantially better yet remain imperfect; for non-reasoning models the accuracy minimum occurs at the phase-transition p = ln n/(n-1), interpreted as evidence of structural chaos, whereas for reasoning models the minimum occurs at maximum diameter, interpreted as evidence of reasoning difficulty.
Significance. If the reported performance gaps and structural correlations survive controls for prompt length and output parsing, the work supplies concrete, falsifiable measurements of LLM limitations on a minimal long-chain reasoning task that maps directly to union-find connectivity. The distinction between model classes and the alignment of difficulty peaks with graph-theoretic quantities (phase transition vs. diameter) could guide targeted improvements in reasoning architectures and evaluation benchmarks.
major comments (2)
- [results on connectivity probabilities] The interpretation that non-reasoning models' accuracy minimum at p = ln n/(n-1) reflects 'chaos' of the equivalence relation is undermined by the absence of length-matched controls. Because expected statement count (and therefore prompt token length) scales linearly with p, the observed dip at the phase-transition regime may arise from attention dilution or parsing load rather than graph structure per se. This directly affects the central claim about structural difficulty (see the paragraph on varying connectivity probabilities with fixed n).
- [experimental setup] The abstract and experimental description report clear directional trends across model classes but provide no information on the number of independent trials per condition, statistical significance tests, exact prompt templates, or procedures for parsing model outputs. Without these, the quantitative performance gaps and the claimed alignment with phase transition or diameter cannot be assessed for robustness.
minor comments (2)
- Add a table that reports accuracy (with standard error) for each model class across all tested (n, p) pairs to make the trends easier to inspect.
- [problem generation] Clarify in the methods whether the two query variables are chosen uniformly or with any bias relative to the generated equivalence classes.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the constructive feedback on our empirical study of LLMs on the Equivalence Class Problem. The comments identify important gaps in controls and reporting that we will address. Below we respond point by point to the major comments.
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Referee: [results on connectivity probabilities] The interpretation that non-reasoning models' accuracy minimum at p = ln n/(n-1) reflects 'chaos' of the equivalence relation is undermined by the absence of length-matched controls. Because expected statement count (and therefore prompt token length) scales linearly with p, the observed dip at the phase-transition regime may arise from attention dilution or parsing load rather than graph structure per se. This directly affects the central claim about structural difficulty (see the paragraph on varying connectivity probabilities with fixed n).
Authors: We agree that the linear scaling of statement count (and thus prompt length) with p introduces a plausible confound that could affect attention or parsing rather than reflecting graph structure alone. The original manuscript did not include length-matched controls. We will revise by adding a dedicated control experiment that holds prompt length approximately constant across p values (via fixed statement counts or neutral padding) while varying connectivity. Results from this control will be reported alongside the original curves; if the phase-transition dip persists, we will retain the structural-chaos interpretation with appropriate caveats; if it does not, we will qualify the claim accordingly. revision: yes
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Referee: [experimental setup] The abstract and experimental description report clear directional trends across model classes but provide no information on the number of independent trials per condition, statistical significance tests, exact prompt templates, or procedures for parsing model outputs. Without these, the quantitative performance gaps and the claimed alignment with phase transition or diameter cannot be assessed for robustness.
Authors: We acknowledge that these methodological details were omitted. In the revised manuscript we will add: (i) the exact number of independent trials per (n, p, model) condition, (ii) the statistical tests performed (including p-values for key comparisons), (iii) the full prompt templates in an appendix, and (iv) a precise description of the output-parsing procedure (keyword extraction supplemented by manual review of edge cases). These additions will enable readers to evaluate the robustness of the reported trends and alignments. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity: purely empirical measurements on generated instances
full rationale
The paper reports direct experimental results from prompting LLMs on freshly sampled equivalence-class instances across varying n and connectivity probability p. No derivation, equation, or central claim reduces to a fitted parameter, self-citation loop, or ansatz imported from the authors' prior work. The noted coincidence with the known random-graph connectivity threshold ln n/(n-1) is an external reference, not a self-derived result. The study is therefore self-contained against external benchmarks.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (1)
- domain assumption The equivalence class problem is the simplest long-chain reasoning task
Lean theorems connected to this paper
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IndisputableMonolith/Foundation/AbsoluteFloorClosure.leanreality_from_one_distinction unclear?
unclearRelation between the paper passage and the cited Recognition theorem.
We model the equivalence class problem using a random graph framework... Erdős-Rényi model G(n,p)... error rates peak near the connectivity threshold ln n/(n-1)
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IndisputableMonolith/Foundation/AlexanderDuality.leanalexander_duality_circle_linking unclear?
unclearRelation between the paper passage and the cited Recognition theorem.
the hardest problem instances coincide with the phase transition point of ln n/(n-1)... for reasoning models, the hardest ones coincide with the biggest diameter
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