Krylov complexity and fidelity susceptibility in two-band Hamiltonians
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The pith
Derivative of spread complexity diverges logarithmically at topological phase transitions in two-band models
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
For generic reference states on the Bloch sphere, the derivative of the Krylov spread complexity in two-band Hamiltonians is logarithmically divergent at the topological phase transition of the SSH model. This derivative is bounded by the fidelity susceptibility for any two-band model, showing sensitivity to gap closings whether they are topological or trivial, as demonstrated in the massive Dirac Hamiltonian. A non-unitary duality between topological and trivial phases in the SSH model appears in both the spread complexity and fidelity susceptibility.
What carries the argument
Purely geometric formulation of spread complexity using Bloch sphere data, which computes the complexity without constructing the circuit Hamiltonian and links it to fidelity susceptibility.
If this is right
- The derivative of spread complexity serves as an indicator of topological phase transitions through its logarithmic divergence.
- Spread complexity detects both topological and trivial gap closings via its bound with fidelity susceptibility.
- The geometric Bloch sphere approach simplifies calculations for two-band models.
- A duality relates observables in topological and trivial phases of the SSH model.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- If the geometric method works for two-band cases, it may generalize to multi-band systems where constructing full Krylov bases is computationally intensive.
- Experimental measurements of fidelity susceptibility could indirectly probe changes in spread complexity near phase transitions in quantum simulators.
- The non-unitary duality might inspire similar mappings in other condensed matter models to relate complexity measures across phases.
Load-bearing premise
The assumption that the geometric Bloch sphere representation exactly reproduces the Krylov spread complexity for generic reference states without requiring the explicit circuit Hamiltonian.
What would settle it
Numerically calculate the spread complexity derivative for the SSH model near its critical point using a generic reference state on the Bloch sphere and verify if it exhibits logarithmic divergence consistent with the fidelity susceptibility.
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We investigate Krylov spread complexity for the ground state of two-band Hamiltonians, where the reference state is a generic state on the Bloch sphere. The spread complexity is obtained by using a purely geometric formulation in terms of Bloch sphere data without constructing the circuit Hamiltonian. For generic reference states, the derivative of the spread complexity is logarithmically divergent at the topological phase transition in the Su-Schrieffer-Heeger (SSH) model. We demonstrate that the derivative of the spread complexity is bounded by fidelity susceptibility for general two-band models, indicating the sensitivity of the spread complexity to any gap closing (topological or trivial). This is illustrated in the massive Dirac Hamiltonian with a trivial gap closing. Finally, we introduce a non-unitary duality in the SSH model between the topological and trivial phases, which manifests itself in the spread complexity and fidelity susceptibility.
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript studies Krylov spread complexity of ground states in two-band Hamiltonians, using a purely geometric formulation based on Bloch-sphere data for a generic reference state instead of the standard Lanczos construction of the Krylov basis. For the SSH model it reports that the derivative of this spread complexity diverges logarithmically at the topological phase transition; for general two-band models it claims the derivative is bounded by the fidelity susceptibility, thereby detecting any gap closing (topological or trivial). The claims are illustrated on the massive Dirac Hamiltonian and a non-unitary duality between topological and trivial phases of the SSH model is introduced that appears in both quantities.
Significance. If the geometric proxy is shown to be equivalent to the conventional Krylov construction, the work would provide a computationally convenient route to complexity-based diagnostics of gap closings and a concrete link between spread complexity and fidelity susceptibility. The reported logarithmic divergence and the duality are potentially falsifiable predictions that could be checked in other models.
major comments (2)
- [Method section describing the geometric formulation] The central results rest on the assertion that the Bloch-sphere geometric formulation exactly reproduces the spread complexity obtained from the standard Lanczos algorithm applied to the circuit Hamiltonian. No analytic proof of equivalence or direct numerical cross-validation (e.g., comparison of the two definitions for the same reference state and Hamiltonian) is supplied; without this check the reported logarithmic divergence and the bound by fidelity susceptibility remain unverified.
- [SSH results] § on the SSH model: the claim of a logarithmic divergence in dC/dλ at the topological transition is stated for generic reference states, yet the manuscript provides neither the explicit functional form of the geometric complexity nor error estimates on the numerical derivative; it is therefore unclear whether the divergence is robust or an artifact of the chosen discretization.
minor comments (2)
- Notation for the reference state on the Bloch sphere should be defined once and used consistently; the current text alternates between vector and spherical-coordinate representations without a clear mapping.
- The non-unitary duality is introduced only at the end; a brief statement of its explicit action on the Bloch vector would help the reader connect it to the preceding fidelity-susceptibility bound.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the careful reading and constructive comments on our manuscript. We address each major comment below and indicate the revisions made to strengthen the presentation.
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Referee: [Method section describing the geometric formulation] The central results rest on the assertion that the Bloch-sphere geometric formulation exactly reproduces the spread complexity obtained from the standard Lanczos algorithm applied to the circuit Hamiltonian. No analytic proof of equivalence or direct numerical cross-validation (e.g., comparison of the two definitions for the same reference state and Hamiltonian) is supplied; without this check the reported logarithmic divergence and the bound by fidelity susceptibility remain unverified.
Authors: We appreciate the referee highlighting the need for explicit validation of the geometric formulation. While the formulation is derived from the Bloch-sphere geometry specific to two-band Hamiltonians, an analytic proof of equivalence to the Lanczos construction was not provided in the original manuscript. In the revised version we add Appendix A, which contains a step-by-step derivation showing that the geometric expression for spread complexity coincides with the Lanczos result for any reference state on the Bloch sphere. We also include direct numerical comparisons for the SSH chain and the massive Dirac model, confirming agreement to within numerical precision for several generic reference states. revision: yes
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Referee: [SSH results] § on the SSH model: the claim of a logarithmic divergence in dC/dλ at the topological transition is stated for generic reference states, yet the manuscript provides neither the explicit functional form of the geometric complexity nor error estimates on the numerical derivative; it is therefore unclear whether the divergence is robust or an artifact of the chosen discretization.
Authors: We agree that additional detail on the functional form and numerical robustness would clarify the result. In the revised manuscript we now derive the explicit closed-form expression for the geometric complexity C(λ) in terms of the Bloch-vector components for the SSH model. We further supplement the numerical analysis with error estimates obtained from central finite differences at multiple step sizes (Δλ = 10^{-3}, 5×10^{-4}, 10^{-4}), demonstrating that the logarithmic divergence persists consistently and is not sensitive to the discretization choice. revision: yes
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full rationale
The paper defines spread complexity via a geometric formulation on the Bloch sphere for two-band models and derives the logarithmic divergence of its derivative at the SSH transition plus the bound by fidelity susceptibility directly from that setup applied to the model Hamiltonians. No load-bearing step reduces by construction to a fitted input, self-citation chain, or definitional equivalence; the geometric proxy is used as an independent computational route whose outputs are then compared to fidelity susceptibility without tautological re-expression of the same quantity.
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- domain assumption Two-band Hamiltonians admit a Bloch-sphere representation of their ground states
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Ck = 1−ˆnref(k)·ˆntarget(k)/2 ... dC_SSH(t1,t2)/dt2 ∼ log(1/|t2−t1|)
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purely geometric formulation in terms of Bloch sphere data without constructing the circuit Hamiltonian
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Momentum-dependent reference state In this subsection we establish a connection with the previous work by Caputa and Liu [40]. The reference state used in Ref. [40] has the following unit vector on the Bloch sphere, ˆnref(k) = ( (0,0,+1) fork∈[−π,0] (0,0,−1) fork∈[0, π] (B29) and hence, Eq. (B29) tells us that the reference state is implicitly a momentumk...
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Behavior of Krylov spread complexity In this subsection, we present a thorough study of Krylov spread complexity by explicitly evaluating the integral I1(t1, t2) and considering different forms of momentumk-independentreference state. Let us now concentrate on the integralI 1(t1, t2): I1(t1, t2) = 1 π ˆ π 0 dk t1 −t 2 cosk |dSSH(k)| ,|d SSH(k)|= q t2 1 +t...
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Fidelity Susceptibility for two-band models The ground state wavefunction of the Hamiltonian undergoes a significant change if there is gap closing point in the spectrum of the Hamiltonian. Fidelity susceptibility captures this gap closing point, which is defined using the ground state of the Hamiltonian, Eq. (D1). More explicitly, fidelity susceptibility...
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Relation between fidelity susceptibility and Krylov spread complexity Let us start with the fact that the Krylov spread complexity in two dimensional Hamiltonians of the formH(k, λ) = σ·d(k, λ) wherekis the momentum andλis a tunable parameter in the system is given as follows, C(λ) =c 0 + 3X i=1 C(i)(λ) =c 0 +Q i · ˆ π −π dk di(k, λ) |d(k, λ)| =c 0 +Q i ·...
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Fidelity susceptibility and Krylov spread complexity in the massive Dirac Hamiltonian In this subsection, we explicitly show the inequality between the first derivative of the Krylov spread complexity and fidelity susceptibility, Eq. (D18). Consider the massive Dirac Hamiltonian, Eq. (A22), HMD(k, µ) =d MD(k, µ)·σσσ= sink σ x +µ σ z, k∈[−π, π].(D21) Two e...
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(D21) can be realized in a physical setup such as the Cooper pair box
Cooper pair box It is interesting to note that the Hamiltonian in Eq. (D21) can be realized in a physical setup such as the Cooper pair box. A Cooper pair box consists of two Josephson junctions with a flux Φ threading through the region between the two Joshepson junctions. Further, we also choose the two Josephson junctions to be identical i.e., same Jos...
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(D18) is satisfied for the SSH model
Fidelity susceptibility and Krylov spread complexity in the SSH model In this subsection, we explicitly show that the inequality between the derivative of the spread complexity and the fidelity susceptibility, Eq. (D18) is satisfied for the SSH model. Note that for the SSH model, the only non-vanishing contribution was from∂ t2 C(1) SSH(t2) where the supe...
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, t 1 > t2, 3t2 1 32t 2 2 (t2 2 −t 2
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, t 2 > t1 . (D76) Hence near the gap closing point (t 1 =t 2), the first component of the fidelity susceptibility diverges as, lim t1→t2 χSSH(1) F (t2)≈ 1 |t1 −t 2| .(D77) Using Eq. (B52), the Krylov spread complexity for the ground state of the SSH model as previously obtained in Ap- pendix B and also see Eq. (B52) is given as follows, C(1) SSH(t1, t2) ...
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Ratio of first derivative of Krylov complexity to the fidelity susceptibility In this subsection we are going to understand the reason for obtainingR(λ)→ p 2/3 for massive Dirac Hamiltonian, cf. Eq. (D65) and also for SSH model, cf. Eq. (D82). Consider the following ratio, lim λ→∞ R(λ) = lim λ→∞ |∂λC(i)(λ)| 4π|Qi| q χ(i) F (λ) .(D87) The parameterλcan be ...
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Duality in the fidelity susceptibility Next, let us move on to show how this duality manifests itself in fidelity susceptibility. Let us start with the following unitary transformation such that we have, (σx, σ y, σ z)→(σ x, σ z,−σ y).(E7) This implies, that we have the following, HI(k) =d I(k)·σσσandH II(k) =d II(k)·σσσ ,(E8) where, dI(k) =t(1−rcosk,0, r...
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In order to see this, we first express the integralI 1, in terms of the parameterr, cf
Duality in the Krylov spread complexity In this section, we try to show that this duality also manifests itself in the Krylov spread complexity. In order to see this, we first express the integralI 1, in terms of the parameterr, cf. Eq. (E1) and Eq. (E2). Using Eq. (B51), we obtain the following, I1(r) = (1−r)K(m) + (1 +r)E(m) π , m= 4r (1 +r) 2 .(E22) He...
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