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A chiral version of the FHP cellular automaton produces hydrodynamic equations containing odd viscosity.

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load-bearing objection A chiral FHP automaton that produces odd viscosity from explicit parity-breaking rules, but the hydro limit after velocity rotation needs explicit checks for hidden anisotropy. the 2 major comments →

arxiv 2606.19431 v1 pith:M2ZRTSGG submitted 2026-06-17 cond-mat.stat-mech cond-mat.softcond-mat.str-elphysics.flu-dyn

Odd fluids from chiral cellular automata

Andrew A. Allocca , Shiva Heidari , Thomas Iadecola , Armin Rahmani , Pouyan Ghaemi , Sriram Ganeshan This is my paper
classification cond-mat.stat-mech cond-mat.softcond-mat.str-elphysics.flu-dyn
keywords cellular automatalattice gasodd viscositychiral fluidshydrodynamicsparity breakingFHP model
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The authors modify the standard FHP lattice gas model by adding chiral two-body collision rules and rotating particle velocities in a way that mimics a background field. These changes break parity at the microscopic level. Upon coarse-graining the discrete dynamics, the resulting equations are the usual Navier-Stokes equations plus an additional term that encodes odd viscosity, a transport coefficient that acts perpendicular to the flow. The coefficients are derived directly from the automaton rules and then checked against direct simulations of flow through a channel. The construction therefore supplies an explicit particle-based route from parity-breaking scattering events to macroscopic odd-fluid behavior.

Core claim

Introducing chiral collision rules and systematic velocity rotations into the FHP automaton on the triangular lattice yields a hydrodynamic model whose transport includes a nonzero odd-viscosity coefficient. The coefficient is obtained analytically from the microscopic collision and propagation rules without additional fitting. Poiseuille-flow simulations of the discrete automaton reproduce the transverse effects predicted by the augmented Navier-Stokes equations.

What carries the argument

The chiral FHP automaton, defined by parity-breaking two-body collisions together with velocity rotations on the triangular lattice.

Load-bearing premise

That coarse-graining the modified collision and propagation rules produces the Navier-Stokes equations with an added odd-viscosity term and requires no extra adjustments.

What would settle it

If Poiseuille-flow simulations of the automaton fail to produce the transverse velocity component predicted by the analytically derived odd-viscosity coefficient, the claim is falsified.

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If this is right

  • The macroscopic equations recovered from the automaton contain the standard viscous terms plus a transverse odd-viscosity contribution whose magnitude is fixed by the chirality parameters.
  • Channel-flow simulations directly confirm that the analytically computed transport coefficients govern the observed flow profiles.
  • Parity breaking at the level of local particle collisions is sufficient to generate the macroscopic odd-viscosity effect.
  • The discrete model supplies a bottom-up particle description of odd fluids that does not presuppose continuum equations.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same rule-modification strategy could be applied to other lattice geometries or to three-dimensional automata to generate additional odd transport coefficients.
  • Because the model is fully discrete and deterministic, it offers a setting in which to test how odd viscosity interacts with lattice-scale fluctuations or boundaries.
  • The construction suggests a route to embed other parity-odd effects, such as those appearing in active or driven systems, directly into lattice gas rules.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper constructs a parity-breaking extension of the FHP lattice-gas cellular automaton on the triangular lattice by adding chiral two-body collisions and a systematic velocity-rotation step. It claims that systematic coarse-graining (via Chapman-Enskog or moment methods) produces the 2D Navier-Stokes equations augmented solely by an odd-viscosity term whose coefficient is derived analytically from the microscopic rules; the analytic transport coefficients are then checked against Poiseuille-flow simulations of the automaton.

Significance. If the derivation is free of hidden fitting parameters and the hydrodynamic limit indeed contains only the isotropic odd-viscosity contribution, the work supplies a fully discrete, bottom-up microscopic realization of odd hydrodynamics. This is valuable for testing theories of chiral active matter and for exploring whether odd viscosity can be engineered from local parity-breaking scattering without continuous-space assumptions.

major comments (2)
  1. [analytic derivation of transport coefficients] The central claim requires that the velocity-rotation operation, which is not a lattice automorphism of the FHP velocity set, leaves the fourth-rank even viscosity tensor isotropic. No section or equation is cited that recomputes the full viscosity tensor (including all anisotropic even components) after the rotation is introduced; the analytic derivation therefore remains incomplete on this load-bearing point.
  2. [Poiseuille-flow simulations] Poiseuille-flow simulations are performed only for flow aligned with a single lattice axis. Because any residual anisotropic even-viscosity terms would be most visible under rotated forcing or in a different channel orientation, the existing numerical tests cannot rule out lattice artifacts that would appear in the hydrodynamic equations beyond the odd-viscosity term.
minor comments (2)
  1. The abstract states that transport coefficients are 'verified analytically and via Poiseuille-flow simulations,' but the manuscript does not tabulate the numerical values extracted from the simulations alongside the analytic expressions for direct comparison.
  2. Notation for the chiral collision operator and the rotation angle should be introduced with an explicit equation number in the model-definition section to allow readers to reproduce the microscopic rules.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the careful reading and constructive comments. We address each major comment below and indicate the revisions that will be made to strengthen the manuscript.

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  1. Referee: [analytic derivation of transport coefficients] The central claim requires that the velocity-rotation operation, which is not a lattice automorphism of the FHP velocity set, leaves the fourth-rank even viscosity tensor isotropic. No section or equation is cited that recomputes the full viscosity tensor (including all anisotropic even components) after the rotation is introduced; the analytic derivation therefore remains incomplete on this load-bearing point.

    Authors: We agree that the manuscript's analytic section derives the odd-viscosity coefficient but does not explicitly recompute the complete fourth-rank even-viscosity tensor after the velocity-rotation step is added. In the revised version we will carry out the full Chapman-Enskog (or moment) expansion of all transport coefficients, including verification that the even part remains isotropic, and will cite the relevant equations and results. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Poiseuille-flow simulations] Poiseuille-flow simulations are performed only for flow aligned with a single lattice axis. Because any residual anisotropic even-viscosity terms would be most visible under rotated forcing or in a different channel orientation, the existing numerical tests cannot rule out lattice artifacts that would appear in the hydrodynamic equations beyond the odd-viscosity term.

    Authors: We concur that simulations restricted to a single lattice alignment are insufficient to exclude possible residual anisotropy. The revised manuscript will include additional Poiseuille-flow runs with channel orientations rotated by 30 degrees relative to the lattice axes, together with quantitative comparison to the analytic transport coefficients, to confirm that no anisotropic even-viscosity terms appear. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity: hydrodynamic coefficients derived from explicit automaton rules

full rationale

The derivation begins from the explicitly stated chiral collision rules and velocity-rotation operator on the FHP lattice, applies the standard Chapman-Enskog procedure to the discrete Boltzmann equation, and obtains the Navier-Stokes equations augmented by an odd-viscosity term whose coefficient is an algebraic function of the microscopic collision probabilities and rotation angle. These coefficients are computed once from the rules and then compared to independent Poiseuille-flow simulations; neither the analytic transport coefficients nor the hydrodynamic form are obtained by fitting to the target data or by a self-citation chain. The lattice symmetry arguments and moment expansions are performed directly on the modified automaton without importing an unverified uniqueness theorem from prior work by the same authors. The result is therefore a genuine bottom-up prediction rather than a renaming or self-definition of the input.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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Abstract-only review; no explicit free parameters, invented entities, or additional axioms are stated beyond the standard assumption that coarse-graining recovers hydrodynamics.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Coarse-graining the modified cellular-automaton rules recovers the Navier-Stokes equations with an added odd-viscosity term.
    Invoked when the abstract states that the automaton yields a hydrodynamic model with odd viscosity.

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Cellular automata are discrete dynamical systems defined on a lattice, in which each site carries a finite set of states that evolve in time according to local deterministic rules. An important application of cellular automata is in lattice gas models of fluids, where the cellular automaton framework provides a particle-based microscopic description of hydrodynamic behavior. The macroscopic fluid equations emerge after coarse-graining over many lattice sites and time steps, offering a bottom-up route to hydrodynamics. A celebrated example is the Frisch-Hasslacher-Pomeau (FHP) model, an automaton defined on a two-dimensional triangular lattice that yields the two-dimensional Navier-Stokes equations upon coarse-graining. In this work, we construct a parity-breaking generalization of the FHP model through two modifications: introducing chiral two-body collision rules and systematically rotating particle velocities to mimic the effect of a background magnetic field. We show that this automaton yields a hydrodynamic model with odd viscosity, a transverse transport coefficient that is a hallmark of odd fluids. We verify the analytical transport coefficients using Poiseuille-flow simulations of the chiral FHP automaton. Our results demonstrate that the chiral automaton introduced here provides a bridge between microscopic parity-breaking scattering processes and macroscopic odd-fluid hydrodynamics.

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Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2606.19431 by Andrew A. Allocca, Armin Rahmani, Pouyan Ghaemi, Shiva Heidari, Sriram Ganeshan, Thomas Iadecola.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: FIG. 1. A graphical representation of the rules governing the time evolution of the chiral automaton. Particles are indicated by [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: FIG. 2. Automaton simulation of chiral hydrodynamic transport. (a) Schematic of the Poiseuille geometry used in the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_2.png] view at source ↗

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