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ARTEMIS evolves reliable temporal masks via a vision-language agent to segment polyps in videos from points, scribbles or few dense labels.
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load-bearing objection ARTEMIS adds a debate-and-judge VLM agent plus a prototype transport module to SAM2 propagation for weak-supervision polyp video segmentation, but the abstract supplies no numbers so the gains remain unverified. the 2 major comments →
ARTEMIS: Agent-guided Reliability-aware Temporal Mask Evolution for Imperfectly Supervised Video Polyp Segmentation
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
ARTEMIS initializes coarse masks from weak supervision or dense anchors, employs a vision-language agent to select reliable temporal anchors under weak supervision, propagates those anchors bidirectionally with SAM2 to refine other frames, and trains the final segmenter with reliability-aware components including reference prototype transport and robust loss that down-weights noisy supervision instead of discarding samples. Experiments on SUN-SEG and CVC-ClinicDB-612 under scribble, point, and limited-label settings show state-of-the-art performance.
What carries the argument
The vision-language agent that debates and judges to select reliable temporal anchors from initial coarse masks, which are then bidirectionally propagated and used in reliability-aware robust learning.
Load-bearing premise
The vision-language agent can reliably identify and select high-quality temporal anchors from the initial coarse masks generated under weak supervision.
What would settle it
Running the full ARTEMIS pipeline versus a version without the agent on SUN-SEG or CVC-ClinicDB-612 under point or scribble supervision and finding no performance gain or a reversal of the reported state-of-the-art ranking.
If this is right
- Coarse masks from SAM2 can be refined over time instead of used directly, reducing boundary leakage and geometry degradation.
- Reliability assessment allows the training process to down-weight noisy frames rather than discard difficult samples.
- Bidirectional propagation from selected anchors improves temporal consistency across video frames.
- The Reference Prototype Transport Module maintains target identity when moving from reference to target frames.
- State-of-the-art results hold across scribble, point, and limited dense-label settings on the tested polyp video datasets.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The same agent-plus-propagation loop could be tested on other medical video tasks that suffer from sparse labels, such as lesion tracking in endoscopy.
- If the reliability scores prove stable, they might be used at inference time to flag frames for clinician review instead of accepting every output mask.
- The framework's dependence on SAM2 suggests that swapping in newer mask generators could be a direct next step without changing the rest of the pipeline.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper proposes ARTEMIS, a unified framework for imperfectly supervised video polyp segmentation. It initializes coarse masks via SAM2 from points/scribbles or uses dense labels as anchors, employs a debate-and-judge vision-language agent to select reliable temporal anchors under weak supervision, propagates them bidirectionally with SAM2, and trains a segmenter via reliability-guided reference selection, a Reference Prototype Transport Module, and a reliability-aware robust loss that down-weights noisy samples. Experiments on SUN-SEG and CVC-ClinicDB-612 claim state-of-the-art performance under scribble, point, and limited-label settings.
Significance. If the experimental claims hold with proper validation, the work addresses a clinically relevant setting where dense annotations are costly. The combination of VLM-based reliability assessment, temporal propagation, and robust loss could offer a practical advance over direct pseudo-labeling from SAM2, particularly for handling boundary leakage and motion artifacts in polyp videos. Releasing code is a positive step toward reproducibility.
major comments (2)
- [Method (agent-guided reliability assessment and reliability-aware robust loss)] The central assumption that the vision-language agent can reliably judge mask quality from visual/textual cues without additional supervision (stated in the method description) is load-bearing for both anchor selection and loss weighting; the manuscript should provide an independent validation (e.g., human study or correlation with ground-truth boundary metrics) rather than relying solely on downstream segmentation gains.
- [Experiments] The abstract and experimental claims assert SOTA results on SUN-SEG and CVC-ClinicDB-612, yet the supplied description contains no quantitative metrics, ablation tables, or error analysis; the full manuscript must include these (with comparisons to recent weak-supervision baselines) to substantiate that the agent-driven components drive the reported improvements rather than the base SAM2 initialization.
minor comments (2)
- [Method] Notation for reliability scores and loss coefficients should be defined explicitly with equations to avoid ambiguity in how they interact with the Reference Prototype Transport Module.
- [Abstract] The abstract would be strengthened by including one or two key quantitative results (e.g., Dice or Jaccard improvements) alongside the SOTA claim.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the constructive feedback and the recognition of the clinical relevance of imperfectly supervised video polyp segmentation. We address each major comment below.
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Referee: [Method (agent-guided reliability assessment and reliability-aware robust loss)] The central assumption that the vision-language agent can reliably judge mask quality from visual/textual cues without additional supervision (stated in the method description) is load-bearing for both anchor selection and loss weighting; the manuscript should provide an independent validation (e.g., human study or correlation with ground-truth boundary metrics) rather than relying solely on downstream segmentation gains.
Authors: We agree that an independent validation of the agent's mask-quality judgments would strengthen the manuscript. The current version relies on downstream segmentation gains and component ablations to demonstrate utility. In revision we will add a correlation analysis: on the limited-label subset we will report agreement (e.g., Pearson correlation or rank correlation) between the agent's reliability scores and ground-truth boundary metrics (Dice, boundary F-score) computed against the dense labels. This provides direct evidence independent of the final segmenter performance. revision: partial
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Referee: [Experiments] The abstract and experimental claims assert SOTA results on SUN-SEG and CVC-ClinicDB-612, yet the supplied description contains no quantitative metrics, ablation tables, or error analysis; the full manuscript must include these (with comparisons to recent weak-supervision baselines) to substantiate that the agent-driven components drive the reported improvements rather than the base SAM2 initialization.
Authors: The full manuscript contains Tables 1–2 with quantitative Dice, IoU and HD95 results under point, scribble and limited-label protocols on both datasets, plus direct comparisons against recent weak-supervision and SAM2-based baselines. Table 3 isolates the contribution of the debate-and-judge agent, Reference Prototype Transport Module and reliability-aware loss via controlled ablations. We will ensure these tables, together with any additional error analysis or statistical tests, are clearly presented and highlighted in the revised version so that the incremental benefit of the agent-driven components is evident. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity identified
full rationale
The paper presents an empirical framework for imperfectly supervised video polyp segmentation, with the core claims resting on experimental SOTA results across external datasets (SUN-SEG, CVC-ClinicDB-612) under multiple weak-supervision regimes. The method description outlines an agent-guided pipeline and reliability-aware components, but the supplied text contains no equations, derivations, or self-citations that reduce any claimed prediction or result to its own inputs by construction. No self-definitional loops, fitted inputs renamed as predictions, or load-bearing self-citation chains are present. The experimental validation therefore remains independent of internal definitions.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
free parameters (2)
- reliability threshold for anchor selection
- loss weighting coefficients in reliability-aware robust loss
axioms (2)
- domain assumption SAM2 can propagate masks bidirectionally while preserving polyp geometry better than direct pseudo-labeling from weak inputs.
- ad hoc to paper The vision-language agent can judge mask reliability from visual and textual cues without additional supervision.
read the original abstract
Imperfectly supervised video polyp segmentation (VPS) aims to learn dense, temporally consistent masks from inexpensive supervision, including weak annotations (points, scribbles) and semi-supervision with few densely labeled frames. This setting is clinically valuable but challenging due to weak contrast, ambiguous boundaries, motion blur, and specular highlights, compounded by sparse pixel-level guidance. While SAM2 can generate dense masks from sparse inputs, direct pseudo-labeling often yields geometry-degraded masks with boundary leakage, underutilizes temporal consistency, and ignores reliability. To address these issues, we propose ARTEMIS, a unified framework for imperfectly supervised VPS driven by agent-guided reliability-aware temporal mask evolution. ARTEMIS initializes coarse masks from available supervision: SAM2 converts points/scribbles, while dense labels serve as reliable anchors. A debate-and-judge vision-language agent selects reliable temporal anchors under weak supervision, which are propagated bidirectionally with SAM2 to refine unreliable or unlabeled frames. Finally, ARTEMIS trains the segmenter using temporal reliability-aware robust learning, incorporating reliability-guided reference selection, a Reference Prototype Transport Module, and reliability-aware robust loss. These components assess mask reliability, evolve anchors over time, transport target identity across frames, and down-weight noisy supervision instead of discarding difficult samples. Experiments on SUN-SEG and CVC-ClinicDB-612 under scribble, point, and limited-label settings demonstrate that ARTEMIS achieves state-of-the-art performance. Code will be released at https://github.com/wangtong627/ARTEMIS.
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