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InfoKV improves KV cache compression by adding predictive uncertainty signals that better preserve tokens influencing distant future contexts.
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2026-06-26 04:53 UTC pith:JUDBKF6S
load-bearing objection InfoKV adds entropy signals to attention for KV compression and shows gains on reasoning benchmarks, but the distant-influence justification rests on an under-specified metric. the 2 major comments →
Information-Aware KV Cache Compression for Long Reasoning
The pith
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Core claim
Tokens selected by attention scores mainly influence nearby contexts, whereas tokens associated with high predictive uncertainty exhibit substantially stronger influence on distant future contexts. Based on this observation, InfoKV combines token-level predictive uncertainty with layer-wise representation evolution and integrates the resulting entropy scores with attention scores during reasoning, yielding better retention of reasoning-critical information under compression.
What carries the argument
Forward Influence metric that quantifies how a compressed token affects future contexts, used to justify and implement the entropy-aware fusion inside the InfoKV framework.
Load-bearing premise
That tokens selected by high predictive uncertainty exhibit substantially stronger influence on distant future contexts than attention-selected tokens, and that this difference can be reliably measured and combined without introducing new failure modes in reasoning chains.
What would settle it
A controlled measurement on the same models and benchmarks showing that attention-selected tokens influence distant contexts at least as strongly as uncertainty-selected tokens, or an ablation where adding the entropy scores fails to improve or reduces accuracy.
If this is right
- InfoKV outperforms existing attention-based KV compression methods on long-context reasoning benchmarks.
- The gains appear in both long prefilling and decoding stages across Llama-3.1, Llama-3.2, and DeepSeek-R1.
- Integrating entropy signals with attention preserves reasoning capability better under aggressive cache compression.
- Layer-wise representation evolution provides a complementary signal to token-level predictive uncertainty.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The same uncertainty-based selection rule could be tested on other compression targets such as activation caching or retrieval augmentation.
- If the distant-influence pattern generalizes, token importance rankings for long-horizon tasks may need to weight global uncertainty more heavily than local attention.
- A direct test would compare error rates on multi-step reasoning chains when using InfoKV versus attention-only compression at identical cache budgets.
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The paper claims that attention-based KV cache compression overlooks predictive uncertainty signals; it introduces a Forward Influence metric showing that high-uncertainty tokens exert stronger influence on distant future contexts than attention-selected tokens, and proposes InfoKV, which combines entropy-based scores (from predictive uncertainty and layer-wise representation evolution) with attention scores. Experiments on long-context reasoning benchmarks with Llama-3.1, Llama-3.2, and DeepSeek-R1 report consistent outperformance over existing attention-only methods in both prefilling and decoding.
Significance. If the Forward Influence distinction is robustly supported, the work could improve KV cache efficiency for long reasoning by adding complementary information-theoretic signals without introducing new failure modes; the multi-model experimental scope is a positive feature.
major comments (2)
- [Analysis section introducing Forward Influence] The definition and exact computation of the Forward Influence metric (perturbation protocol, distance horizon, controls for token position/layer, and whether it is computed post-compression) are not provided. This metric is load-bearing for the central claim that uncertainty tokens influence distant contexts more than attention tokens and thus justifies the entropy+attention combination in InfoKV.
- [Experiments and analysis] Without the metric's precise implementation details or independent causal controls, it is unclear whether the reported separation is an artifact of correlations with other factors (e.g., layer depth or position) rather than a reliable signal; this directly affects the soundness of the outperformance claims on reasoning chains.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the constructive feedback on the Forward Influence metric. We agree that additional implementation details and controls are needed to strengthen the analysis and will revise the manuscript accordingly.
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Referee: [Analysis section introducing Forward Influence] The definition and exact computation of the Forward Influence metric (perturbation protocol, distance horizon, controls for token position/layer, and whether it is computed post-compression) are not provided. This metric is load-bearing for the central claim that uncertainty tokens influence distant contexts more than attention tokens and thus justifies the entropy+attention combination in InfoKV.
Authors: We acknowledge the details were insufficiently specified. In the revised manuscript we will add a dedicated subsection with the exact definition: Forward Influence is computed by measuring the change in next-token prediction entropy or representation shift at future positions after perturbing (masking) a token in the forward pass. We will specify the perturbation protocol (random masking with replacement by a learned null token), distance horizon (influence measured at positions >50 tokens ahead), explicit controls (stratified sampling by absolute position and layer depth with matched baselines), and confirm computation occurs on the uncompressed model to establish baseline importance. These additions will directly support the claim that uncertainty tokens show stronger distant influence. revision: yes
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Referee: [Experiments and analysis] Without the metric's precise implementation details or independent causal controls, it is unclear whether the reported separation is an artifact of correlations with other factors (e.g., layer depth or position) rather than a reliable signal; this directly affects the soundness of the outperformance claims on reasoning chains.
Authors: We will add position- and layer-matched controls plus an ablation that recomputes the separation after regressing out positional and depth effects. This will demonstrate the signal is not an artifact. The outperformance of InfoKV itself is measured end-to-end on the full compression pipeline across three models; we will clarify that the metric serves as motivation rather than a direct causal proof, while retaining the empirical results as the primary evidence. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity; derivation relies on independent empirical signals and experiments
full rationale
The paper introduces Forward Influence as a new metric and combines entropy with attention scores to form InfoKV. No equations, fitted parameters, or self-citations are shown that reduce the claimed separation of influence or the performance gains to a definition or input by construction. The central observation and method are presented as arising from analysis and validated externally on benchmarks with multiple models, making the chain self-contained rather than tautological.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (1)
- domain assumption Attention weights capture contextual relevance but overlook predictive uncertainty signals.
invented entities (1)
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Forward Influence metric
no independent evidence
read the original abstract
Reasoning capability has advanced rapidly in large language models (LLMs), leading to an increasing size of key-value (KV) cache in both prefilling and decoding stages. Existing KV cache compression methods mainly rely on attention weights to estimate token importance. While attention effectively captures contextual relevance, it overlooks complementary information-theoretic signals related to predictive uncertainty and token informativeness. In this paper, we revisit token importance from a forward-looking perspective and introduce \textit{Forward Influence}, a metric that measures how compressed tokens affect future contexts. Our analysis reveals that tokens selected by attention scores mainly influence nearby contexts, whereas tokens associated with high predictive uncertainty exhibit substantially stronger influence on distant future contexts. Based on the observation, we propose \textbf{InfoKV}, an entropy-aware KV cache compression framework that incorporates information-theoretic signals. It combines token-level predictive uncertainty with layer-wise representation evolution and integrates the resulting entropy scores with attention scores during reasoning. Experiments on long-context reasoning benchmarks with Llama-3.1, Llama-3.2, and DeepSeek-R1 demonstrate that InfoKV consistently outperforms existing attention-based KV compression methods in both long prefilling and decoding scenarios.
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To balance the weights of the entropy score and the attention score𝛼 in Eq
For InfoKV, we set the bias term𝜏 added to 𝐷(𝑙) 𝑖 to 1.0 and compute top-𝑘 restricted entropy using the top 256 predicted tokens. To balance the weights of the entropy score and the attention score𝛼 in Eq. (8) is set to 0.9. We adopt fixed prompting templates for both direct-answer and Chain-of-Thought (CoT) reasoning settings in LongReason. Same prompts ...
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