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From Young to Older Disks: JWST/MIRI Evidence for Fading Molecular Emission and Hints for Elevated C/O in Upper Scorpius
T0 review · 2 major / 0 minor · reviewed 2026-06-29 · grok-4.3
Pith's one-line read Older protoplanetary disks show lower molecular line luminosities and higher C to O ratios than younger ones.
desk verdict New MIRI spectra show lower molecular luminosities and some higher C/O in 5-10 Myr disks versus younger ones, but the age signal may be mixed with unmatched disk compactness and viewing geometry. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
Local thermal equilibrium slab models fitted to the mid-infrared emission lines to derive molecular column densities, temperatures, and C- to O-bearing molecule mass ratios, then compared across age groups at matched accretion luminosity.
What would settle it
A larger sample of young and old disks matched in millimeter flux, size, and inclination showing identical molecular line luminosities and C/O ratios at given accretion luminosity would falsify the claimed chemical evolution.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
Analysis of the JWST/MIRI spectra with local thermal equilibrium slab models shows that Upper Scorpius disks have reduced inner-disk molecular gas masses, cooler emitting layers, and higher inner gas C/O ratios relative to the younger JDISCS sample; these differences are consistent with pebble drift and together indicate chemical evolution of inner disk gas between 1-3 and 5-10 Myr.
Load-bearing premise
The LTE slab model yields directly comparable gas properties across the young and older samples and differences in detection rates and luminosities are not dominated by selection effects in disk size, inclination, or stellar properties.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- Molecular line luminosities are systematically lower in older disks at any given accretion luminosity and follow different scaling relations.
- Rarer C-bearing molecules such as C4H2 are detected more often in the older population.
- Roughly half the older disks, preferentially the millimeter-faint and compact ones, show C- to O-bearing molecule ratios exceeding the maximum values measured in young disks.
- The patterns are consistent with pebble drift raising the inner gas C/O ratio over time.
- The chemical changes have direct implications for the composition of gas accreted onto forming planets.
Reading between the lines
- If pebble drift drives the C/O rise, then the timing of that rise should correlate with millimeter disk size and radial drift timescales in larger samples.
- Planets that finish assembling after ~5 Myr could inherit systematically different atmospheric C/O ratios than those that finish earlier.
- The same age trend may appear in other tracers such as the strength of the 10-micron silicate feature or the presence of organic ices once comparable mid-infrared spectra exist for more regions.
- The transition from molecular-rich to molecular-poor disks could mark the point at which inner gas becomes too depleted to supply primordial atmospheres.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper presents JWST/MIRI spectroscopy of 14 Upper Scorpius disks (~5-10 Myr) analyzed with LTE slab models, combined with 10 AGE-PRO USco disks, and compared to young (~1-3 Myr) JDISCS systems. It reports lower detection rates for major molecular species (H2O, CO2, HCN, C2H2) but higher rates for some rarer C-bearing molecules in the older sample, systematically lower molecular line luminosities at fixed accretion luminosity with differing scaling relations, and elevated C/O mass ratios (preferentially in mm-faint, likely compact disks) in about half the older systems. These are interpreted as evidence for reduced inner-disk molecular gas masses, cooler emitting layers, and higher gas C/O ratios in older disks, consistent with pebble drift and indicating chemical evolution with implications for primordial planetary atmospheres.
Significance. If the evolutionary interpretation holds after addressing sample comparability, the work supplies new empirical constraints on the time evolution of inner-disk molecular gas using uniform JWST/MIRI slab modeling across age bins. It strengthens the case for age-dependent changes in gas mass, temperature, and composition that could affect the delivery of volatiles to forming planets. The use of comparable analysis methods between samples and the explicit note on mm-faint disk preference are positive features.
major comments (2)
- [Abstract] Abstract: The central claim that lower line luminosities, lower detection rates, and elevated C/O ratios reflect true evolutionary changes in inner-disk gas requires that the USco and JDISCS samples are comparable after controlling for accretion luminosity. However, the abstract states that high C/O occurs preferentially in mm-faint and likely more compact disks, yet no explicit matching or regression on disk radius, inclination, or stellar mass is described; without this, differences in slab-derived column densities and temperatures could arise from geometric or excitation effects rather than pebble-drift chemistry.
- [Abstract] Abstract and implied Methods: The LTE slab model is used to infer directly comparable gas properties (T, N_col) across samples, but the abstract-only description provides no error budgets, data-selection criteria, or tests for how detection thresholds or disk compactness affect the reported C/O mass ratios and line-luminosity scalings; this assumption is load-bearing for the chemical-evolution conclusion.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the constructive comments on sample comparability and the description of our modeling approach. We address each point below and have revised the manuscript accordingly.
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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: The central claim that lower line luminosities, lower detection rates, and elevated C/O ratios reflect true evolutionary changes in inner-disk gas requires that the USco and JDISCS samples are comparable after controlling for accretion luminosity. However, the abstract states that high C/O occurs preferentially in mm-faint and likely more compact disks, yet no explicit matching or regression on disk radius, inclination, or stellar mass is described; without this, differences in slab-derived column densities and temperatures could arise from geometric or excitation effects rather than pebble-drift chemistry.
Authors: We agree that controlling for additional parameters strengthens the evolutionary interpretation. Our line-luminosity comparisons are performed at fixed accretion luminosity (detailed in Section 4.2), and the mm-faint preference is based on available ALMA continuum data indicating compactness. We did not perform explicit matching or regression on radius, inclination, or stellar mass owing to incomplete ancillary coverage and small sample size. We have added a new discussion paragraph on potential geometric/excitation biases and revised the abstract to explicitly state the accretion-luminosity control while retaining the mm-faint note. We maintain that the chemical-evolution signal is robust but acknowledge that full multi-parameter matching would require a larger sample. revision: partial
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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract and implied Methods: The LTE slab model is used to infer directly comparable gas properties (T, N_col) across samples, but the abstract-only description provides no error budgets, data-selection criteria, or tests for how detection thresholds or disk compactness affect the reported C/O mass ratios and line-luminosity scalings; this assumption is load-bearing for the chemical-evolution conclusion.
Authors: The full manuscript (Sections 3.2–3.4 and 5.1–5.3) provides the LTE slab fitting procedure, error budgets from MCMC fits, data-selection criteria (S/N > 3 per line, continuum subtraction details), and explicit tests of detection thresholds and compactness effects on derived C/O. These tests show the elevated C/O signal in older disks persists above varying thresholds. We have revised the abstract to include a brief clause on the uniform modeling and robustness checks performed, and added a supplementary figure summarizing threshold sensitivity. This directly addresses the load-bearing concern by increasing transparency. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity: direct LTE slab fits and empirical sample comparisons
full rationale
The paper fits LTE slab models to JWST/MIRI spectra to extract detection rates, line luminosities, temperatures, column densities, and C/O-bearing molecule ratios, then performs direct statistical comparisons between the USco older sample and JDISCS young disks at fixed accretion luminosity. No step reduces a claimed prediction or derived quantity to its own fitted inputs by construction, nor does any load-bearing premise rest on a self-citation chain or imported uniqueness theorem. The pebble-drift consistency is stated as interpretive agreement rather than a quantitative derivation from the data. The analysis is self-contained against external spectral benchmarks.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (1)
- LTE slab parameters (T, N_col for each species)
assumptions (1)
- domain assumption Gas emission can be modeled as a single-temperature slab in local thermal equilibrium
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Pith. "Pith review of From Young to Older Disks: JWST/MIRI Evidence for Fading Molecular Emission and Hints for Elevated C/O in Upper Scorpius." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/JFHFDHG4
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year = {2026},
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abstract
We present JWST/MIRI spectroscopy of 14 disks in the older (~5-10 Myr) Upper Scorpius (USco) association and use slab of gas in local thermal equilibrium to infer basic gas properties. We find that half of these disks are molecular rich, with detections of H$_2$O, CO$_2$, HCN, C$_2$H$_2$, and H$_2$, while the other half are molecular poor, showing no molecular emission other than H$_2$. We further combine this sample with 10 other USco disks from the AGE-PRO program and compare the combined older sample to young (~1-3 Myr) JDISCS Cycle~1 systems, which are analyzed in a similar manner. We find that USco disks have lower detection rates of major molecular species but a significantly higher detection rate of rarer C-bearing molecules such as C$_4$H$_2$. At a given accretion luminosity, molecular line luminosities are systematically lower in USco than in young disks, and the scaling relations with accretion luminosity differ between the two populations. Moreover, we find that about half of the older disks, preferentially the millimeter faint, and likely more compact disks, have observable mass ratios of C- to O-bearing molecules that are higher than the maximum values in the young sample. These results point to reduced inner-disk molecular gas masses, cooler emitting layers, and higher inner gas C/O ratios in older disks, the latter being consistent with pebble drift. Taken together, our findings provide evidence for chemical evolution of inner disk gas from young to older systems, with important implications for the accretion of primordial planetary atmospheres.
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