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Merge-Adversarial Training embeds text watermarks into open-source LLM weights so they remain detectable after users merge the model with other checkpoints, and the paper demonstrates consistent gains over standard watermark distillation ac
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2026-08-02 14:21 UTC pith:CW2S2SP7
load-bearing objection MAT gives real merge durability for the merge algorithms people actually use; the 'durable against merging' claim needs a qualifier for untested aggressive merge operators. the 2 major comments →
Making Open-Source Text LLM Watermarks Durable Against Merging
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
The central claim is that watermark durability against model merging can be trained into weights, not just hoped for. MAT adds a merge adversary to watermark distillation: at each step it forms a linear interpolation of the current checkpoint with the frozen unwatermarked base, computes the watermark-distillation KL loss through this merged model, and backpropagates only into the trainable copy. This forces the watermark to survive weight-space interpolation with the base. Empirically, MAT keeps TPR@1%FPR high in every tested scenario, while standard distillation collapses; for example, under SLERP it gains up to 51 percentage points. The paper also argues that merging a watermarked model wi
What carries the argument
The load-bearing object is the merge adversary in the training loop: a randomly weighted linear interpolation of the current watermark-trained checkpoint and the unwatermarked base, with the merge weight sampled uniformly from a range at each step. The loss is the KL divergence between the watermarked teacher distribution, restricted to the top-k logits, and the merged model's distribution; gradients flow only to the trainable student. This single simple adversary is what teaches the model to keep its watermark after real merges, including non-linear ones like SLERP and TIES.
Load-bearing premise
The method's durability claim rests on the assumption that robustness learned against a simple linear interpolation with the unwatermarked base transfers to all realistic merges — including SLERP, TIES, cascades, and untested trim-and-rescale or learned merges; if that transfer fails for a real merge algorithm, the general durability claim collapses.
What would settle it
Train MAT exactly as described, then merge the resulting model with a third-party model using DARE-TIES, Model Breadcrumbs, or an evolutionary or learned merge operator, and measure TPR@1%FPR; if detectability drops to baseline-distillation levels on any of these, the claim that a linear adversary suffices for durability is false. A cheaper test: verify whether the BB′ lower-bound property holds on TIES — the paper itself reports it fails there.
If this is right
- Providers can release watermarked open models that stay attributable after common user merges, without requiring any merge-time steps from users.
- Merging with the unwatermarked base becomes a cheap proxy test for cascade durability, at least for averaging-type merges.
- Because MAT transfers across watermark families and architectures, the approach is a general recipe for durability, not tied to one watermark scheme.
- Since MAT does not hurt pre-merge quality, durability can be added at negligible cost to model utility.
- The paper's broader suggestion is that adversarial training is a reliable approach for increasing watermark durability against post-training modifications generally.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- If robustness learned against linear interpolation transfers broadly, weight-space durability may be a general property of networks trained against interpolation adversaries; one could test whether similar training-time adversaries protect against quantization, pruning, or other post-processing.
- The paper's cheap BB′ proxy is shown to fail on TIES, so the durability guarantee for trim-and-rescale and sparse merge schemes is untested; testing MAT against DARE-TIES and breadcrumb-style merges would settle whether the linear adversary suffices.
- The top-k gating choice itself appears to improve standard watermark distillation quality independent of merging, so this insight could benefit distillation even when merging durability is not a concern.
- A natural extension is to make the merge adversary more expressive during training — for example, sampling from a pool of task vectors or simulating SLERP/TIES steps directly — which might extend durability to the aggressive merges the paper leaves untested.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper proposes Merge-Adversarial Training (MAT), a distillation-time procedure intended to make open-source LLM text watermarks survive post-release model merging. Starting from an unwatermarked base θ0, MAT trains a watermarked student θ by, at each step, forming a linear merge θM = αθ + (1−α)θ0 with α sampled uniformly, and minimizing the KL divergence between the watermarked teacher distribution and the merged model's distribution. The authors evaluate MAT against standard watermark distillation on LLaMA-3.1-8B-Instruct and Qwen-2.5-3B-Instruct, across KGW, AAR, and KTH watermark families, and across LINEAR, SLERP, and TIES merges. They introduce several realistic merge scenarios (finetune-finetune, base-finetune, cascaded merges, merges with community finetunes) and report that MAT consistently improves post-merge TPR@1%FPR while preserving pre-merge detection and downstream quality.
Significance. If the results hold, this is a practically important contribution: prior OSM watermarking has focused on detectability and finetuning robustness, while model merging has been shown to be strongly adversarial to embedded watermarks. The paper's strengths are its broad, controlled evaluation: pre-merge quality and detectability are matched (Tables 1, 3, 4), multiple watermark families and architectures are tested, confidence intervals are reported, and the method is compared against realistic merge pipelines rather than only the unwatermarked-base merge used in prior work. The finding that robustness trained against a single linear merge adversary transfers to SLERP and TIES, and to cascaded and community-finetune merges, is genuinely useful. The main limitations are external-validity concerns: the training adversary is only linear interpolation with the base, and the paper's own Sec. 5 lists DARE-TIES, Model Breadcrumbs, and learned/evolutionary merges as untested. These are acknowledged, but the abstract's unqualified 'durable against model merging' goes beyond the evidence.
major comments (2)
- [App. A.1.2 / Sec. 4.1] The headline comparison between KGW-D and MAT is not fully controlled. App. A.1.2 states that KGW-D and MAT use the same KGW parameters (γ=0.25, δ=2.3), but that MAT 'additionally' uses a rank-top-k restriction (k=100). The main experiments therefore vary two components at once: the merge-adversarial loss and the top-k distillation gate. Since restricting the watermark to top-k logits changes where in the distribution the watermark is embedded, the gains in Figures 3–4 cannot be attributed solely to the merge-adversarial objective. Tables 12 and 15 vary k within MAT, and Table 16 compares sampled vs. fixed α, but none of these ablations isolates the merge adversary by comparing against standard distillation with the same k=100 gate (or MAT without the gate). Please add this isolation for at least the main FF/BF/BB' Linear/SLERP/TIES curves; otherwise the central attribution of the improv
- [Abstract; Sec. 5; App. A.3.2] The abstract and conclusion state that MAT makes watermarks 'durable against model merging' without qualification. The training adversary in Algorithm 1 is only a linear interpolation toward the unwatermarked base, and Sec. 5 explicitly leaves DARE-TIES, Model Breadcrumbs, and learned/evolutionary merge operators untested. More importantly, App. A.3.2 (Table 6) shows that TIES behaves qualitatively differently from LINEAR/SLERP: the BB' lower-bound proxy fails under TIES, so merge families are not interchangeable for this robustness property. The tested claims are well supported, but the general durability claim is broader than the evidence. I recommend restating the abstract and Sec. 6 as 'durable against the tested LINEAR/SLERP/TIES merge scenarios' and explicitly framing transfer to aggressive trim-and-rescale or learned merge operators as an open empirical risk rather than just futur
minor comments (4)
- [App. A.1.2] The sentence 'We use the same KGW parameters in both runs (γ=0.25, k=1)' is confusing: k=1 looks like a top-k gate, while the next sentence introduces a separate rank-top-k restriction with k=100. Please clarify that k=1 is the KGW context/hash parameter and define the logit gate separately.
- [Sec. 3.1] 'Adversarial training' is used loosely: the objective is not a min-max game but robust optimization against a stochastic merge perturbation. A brief clarification of this terminology would help readers distinguish it from standard adversarial training.
- [Sec. 4.3 / App. A.4.2] The Qwen-2.5-3B ablation reports only TPR under SLERP BB' and does not report pre- or post-merge quality metrics. A sentence explaining why quality is omitted, or a small quality table, would strengthen the architecture-transfer claim.
- [General] Typos and minor wording: 'explicitely' (Sec. 3.1), 'such OSMs watermarks' (abstract). Also, the abstract's '+51 pp / +25 pp' numbers are not tied to a specific table or configuration; adding a pointer would be helpful.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity: MAT's durability results are empirical, held-out outcomes of a robust-training objective, not consequences of its definitions or self-citations.
full rationale
The derivation chain in this paper is not circular. MAT's training objective (Algorithm 1, Eq. 1) directly minimizes KL divergence between a watermarked teacher and a model merged via linear interpolation with the unwatermarked base; that is a standard robust-training loss, not a disguised restatement of the evaluation metric. The paper's headline durability claims are evaluated against held-out conditions that are not used in training: SLERP and TIES merges, cascaded merges (FF, BF, F2BF, FBF), community finetunes (FuseChat, OpenMath, Tulu), additional watermark families (AAR, KTH), and a different architecture (Qwen-2.5-3B-Instruct). None of these reduce by construction to the linear BB' adversary, and the paper explicitly reports a case where its BB' lower-bound proxy fails (Table 6, App. A.3.2, under TIES), which is the opposite of forcing a fit. The self-citations to Gloaguen et al. [6] and [14] are background/prior-work references; the load-bearing arguments are supported by the paper's own external benchmarks and the externally defined KGW/AAR/KTH detectors. Sec. 5's limitation that DARE-TIES, Model Breadcrumbs, and learned/evolutionary merge operators remain untested is a scope restriction on external validity, not an internal circularity. No fitted parameter is relabeled as a prediction, and no uniqueness theorem or prior-work ansatz is imported to justify the core result. Hence the central claim has independent empirical content and scores 0.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
free parameters (5)
- delta (green-list bias) =
2.3
- gamma (green-list fraction) =
0.25
- k (top-k logit gate) =
100
- alpha_min (merge weight lower bound) =
0.1
- alpha_max (merge weight upper bound) =
1.0
axioms (5)
- domain assumption Watermark distillation can embed a detectable generation-time watermark into model weights.
- domain assumption Robustness to linear interpolation with the unwatermarked base transfers to non-linear merges (SLERP, TIES, cascades).
- domain assumption BB' (unwatermarked-base merge) is a worst-case lower bound for durability against cascaded merges.
- standard math The KL divergence between the watermarked teacher and the merged student is a valid training signal for watermark detectability.
- domain assumption The provider has access to the unwatermarked base model and the watermarked teacher during training.
read the original abstract
Open-source LLMs (OSMs)arereaching near state-of-the-art performance, prompting prior works to trace the text they generate by embedding text watermarking algorithms directly into their weights. Yet, OSMs are subject to post-training modifications, which has been shown to remove the watermark. Model merging in particular, a prominent method used for combining expert knowledge and preventing catastrophic forgetting, strongly removes such OSM watermarks. A key question is how to enable OSM watermarks that survive subsequent merging. In this work, we show for the first time how to design an OSM watermark that is durable against model merging. We propose Merge-Adversarial Training, an adversarial training algorithm to distill text watermarks into model weights while being robust to subsequent model merging. Our approach consistently outperforms all baselines (e.g. with SLERP up to +51 percentage points (pp) TPR@1%FPR with +25 pp on average) while preserving downstream capabilities. We also for the first time evaluate OSM watermarks against realistic merge scenarios, representing common use-cases such as combining expert capabilities or preventing catastrophic forgetting, and with 3 prominent merging algorithms. More broadly, our findings suggest that adversarial training is a reliable approach for increasing OSM watermark durability against post-training modifications.
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Qwen Team. Qwen2.5: A party of foundation models, September 2024. URL https://qwenlm. github.io/blog/qwen2.5/. 12 A Supplementary Results A.1 Watermark Distillation and SFT Hyperparameters A.1.1 Data Mixture Watermark distillation uses a multi-domain mix: 30% math (METAMATHQA [ 29]), 30% German (20% ALPACA-GPT4-DE [ 27] + 10% FINEWEB-2 [ 28] deu_Latn), 30...
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We use the same KGW parameters in both runs (γ=0.25, k=1)
inBFLOAT16, using AdamW ( β1=0.9, β2=0.999, ε=10−8), cosine LR schedule with 500 warm-up steps and peak LR 1×10−5, a batch size of 64, and gradient checkpointing enabled. We use the same KGW parameters in both runs (γ=0.25, k=1). The bias is δ=2.3 for KGW-D and MAT KGW-D, with the latter additionally using the rank-top- k restriction (k=100). The merge ad...
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and used in Gloaguen et al. [6]: from the watermarked model, we generate, unless otherwise mentioned, n= 500 continuations conditioned on natural-text prefixes drawn from a domain- matched corpus (C4-REALNEWSLIKE[ 35] for English, FINEWEB-2 deu_Latn [28]/fra_Latn [28] for German/French, and GSM8K [ 36] prompts for math). We compute their perplexity with L...
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doi: 10.18653/v1/2024.emnlp-industry.36
Association for Computational Linguistics. doi: 10.18653/v1/2024.emnlp-industry.36. URLhttps://aclanthology.org/2024.emnlp-industry.36
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URLhttps://arxiv.org/abs/2602.02276
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