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Star-forming galaxies bend in size at a fixed mass of 10 billion suns, and the compact ones can build the quiescent population at high redshift.
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load-bearing objection Solid JWST result: SFGs show a stable broken size-mass relation at ~10^10 M⊙ across 0.5<z<6; the cSFG-to-QG number-density claim is the soft interpretive step, not the observation. the 2 major comments →
A Bending in the Size-mass Relation of Star-forming Galaxies across 0.5 < z < 6.0 at a Critical Stellar Mass of 10¹⁰M_odot Revealed by JWST
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
Across 0.5 < z < 6, star-forming galaxies follow a broken power-law size-mass relation whose pivot mass stays near 10^10 solar masses while the high-mass slope flattens; the compact subset of these galaxies has the masses, surface-brightness profiles, morphologies and cumulative number densities needed to account for the observed buildup of massive quiescent galaxies at z > 2 via a compaction pathway.
What carries the argument
The smoothly broken power-law size-mass fit for star-forming galaxies (pivot mass Mp, low-mass slope alpha, high-mass slope beta), together with the offset-defined compact-star-forming sample whose gas-depletion times are used to predict the cumulative number density of quenched descendants.
Load-bearing premise
The claim that compact star-formers can supply the observed quiescent population rests on every such galaxy quenching after a fixed gas-depletion-time recipe and on no large competing channels changing the count.
What would settle it
A complete census of compact star-forming galaxies whose measured gas fractions or quenching times leave their cumulative number density well below the observed number density of massive quiescent galaxies at z greater than 2 would break the progenitor argument.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper measures rest-frame optical size–stellar mass relations for field galaxies at 0.5<z<6.0 with PRIMER JWST/NIRCam+MIRI imaging (plus multiwavelength ancillary data). Using galight single-Sérsic fits and sSFR-based SFG/QG separation on a mass-, magnitude-, and S/N-complete sample of ~65k galaxies, the authors find that SFGs are better described by a smoothly broken power-law (Eq. 5) with a nearly constant pivot mass Mp~10^10 M⊙ and a high-mass slope that flattens with redshift, while QGs are better described by a two-component mixture model (Eqs. 6–7) whose transition mass rises with z. They interpret the SFG bend as two size-growth modes (halo-coupled below Mp; compaction/bulge growth above Mp), define compact SFGs (cSFGs) relative to the single power-law residual, and argue from stacked profiles, morphologies, and a cumulative number-density calculation that cSFGs can supply the observed buildup of massive QGs at z≳2 via compaction rather than major mergers of extended disks.
Significance. If the broken SFG relation and nearly constant Mp hold, the result is a clear observational advance over HST-era single power-law fits and directly constrains mass-dependent size growth and quenching pathways out to z~6. Strengths include a large mass-complete sample, MIRI-informed SED masses/redshifts, documented size-recovery tests (Appendix A), HST–JWST cross-checks that explain why the high-mass flattening was previously underrepresented (Appendix B), UVJ vs sSFR robustness (Appendix C), and BIC model comparison (Table 2). The cSFG progenitor interpretation is a falsifiable, high-impact claim for high-z massive QG formation, even though it rests on a simplified depletion-time accounting.
major comments (2)
- Section 5.3 and left panel of Figure 6: the claim that cSFG number densities “can account for” the observed QG buildup assumes every cSFG quenches after its Tacconi et al. (2018) gas-depletion time with fixed coefficients (At=0.9, Bt=−0.62, Ct=−0.44, Dt=Et=0, δMS=1) and that rejuvenation, environmental quenching, or other channels do not materially change the count. This is load-bearing for the “compaction dominates” conclusion. Please add a sensitivity test (vary At/Bt/Ct or δMS within published ranges; allow a non-unity quenching efficiency or a modest rejuvenation fraction) and report how the cumulative cSFG curve shifts relative to the QG points, or else reframe the statement as an order-of-magnitude consistency check rather than a dominant-channel demonstration.
- Section 5.2 / definition of cSFGs: compact SFGs are defined as ΔlogR < −1σ relative to the single power-law fit of Section 4.1, yet the same single-power-law residual is used both to identify the population that drives the broken-power-law bend and to argue that those objects are the QG progenitors. The stacked profiles, b/a, and n (Figure 6, Figure E2) are independent and supportive, but the paper should state explicitly that the morphological similarity is not circular with the size cut, and should show that the number-density match is robust to a modest change in the ΔlogR threshold (e.g., −0.5σ vs −1.5σ) or to defining cSFGs relative to the broken-law high-mass branch instead.
minor comments (5)
- Table 2: for 0.5<z<1.0 and 4.0<z<6.0, ΔBIC is negative (favoring the single power-law). The text already notes sample-size and evolutionary reasons; a short quantitative statement of how much the high-mass slope β is still constrained in those bins would help readers judge whether the “all redshifts” claim is uniform or strongest at 1<z<4.
- Equation 5: δ is fixed to 6 “to reduce degeneracy.” Please cite the prior (Kawinwanichakij et al. 2021) more explicitly for this choice and note whether free-δ fits change Mp or β at a level that affects the constant-pivot conclusion.
- Section 3.2: exclusion of 2414 COSMOS SFGs at 2.2<z<2.8 is justified by the supercluster and Appendix D; state the fractional change in the high-mass slope when they are retained so readers can assess residual field-to-field variance.
- Figure 3 insets and the last-panel definition of ΔlogR are useful; ensure the caption fully defines the mirrored KDE and the 1σ threshold used later for cSFGs so the figure stands alone.
- Minor typos/consistency: “Draft version May 26, 2026” and arXiv date line; “A vishai Dekel” spacing; occasional “size-mass” vs “size–mass”; confirm that F277W/F356W assignment for 4<z<6 is stated once in the main text as well as in the figure caption.
Circularity Check
No load-bearing circularity: broken power-law and Mp are data-driven fits; cSFG definition uses single-power-law residuals but morphological/number-density comparisons remain independent measurements.
specific steps
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[Section 5.2 (classification of cSFGs/eSFGs)]
"We classify massive SFGs into two populations based on their offsets from the best-fit single power-law size–mass relation (i.e., ∆ logR, as illustrated in the last panel of Figure 3): •Compact star-forming galaxies (cSFGs): SFGs with ∆ logR <−1σ, i.e., galaxies lying more than 1σ below the best-fit single power-law size–mass relation."
cSFGs are defined as the 1σ under-size tail relative to the single power-law that the broken model later improves upon; this makes the existence of a compact excess partly definitional. However, the subsequent stacked profiles, axis ratios, Sérsic indices, and number-density matching are independent measurements, so the progenitor argument is not forced by construction and the circularity is only minor.
full rationale
The central observational claim (broken power-law size–mass relation for SFGs with nearly constant fitted Mp ≈ 10^10 M⊙ and high-mass flattening) is obtained by maximizing likelihood on the mass-complete JWST sample (Eqs. 3–5, Tables 1–2, BIC comparison), with recovery tests, HST–JWST re-analysis, and UVJ/sSFR robustness checks that do not presuppose the bend. The numerical coincidence of Mp with the SHMR peak is noted after the fit, not imposed. cSFGs are defined via residuals from the single power-law (Section 5.2), which is a classification choice that highlights the excess already visible in the data; their stacked surface-brightness profiles, b/a, Sérsic indices, and the cumulative number-density comparison (using an external Tacconi et al. 2018 depletion-time formula with fixed parameters) are independent observables, not forced by that definition. Self-citations (Wang et al. 2025, Sun et al. 2026) supply data products and photo-z/mass methods, not uniqueness theorems or the size–mass result itself. No equation reduces a claimed prediction to its own fitted input by construction, and no ansatz or uniqueness is smuggled via overlapping-author citation. Score 1 reflects only the mild residual-based classification step; the derivation chain is otherwise self-contained against external benchmarks.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
free parameters (5)
- pivot mass Mp (SFGs) =
~10^9.5–10^10.2 M⊙
- low- and high-mass slopes α, β (SFGs) =
α≈0.16–0.23, β≈0.01–0.19
- mixture transition mass Mp and width W (QGs) =
Mp rises from ~10^10.0 to ~10^10.5 M⊙
- Tacconi depletion-time coefficients =
At=0.9, Bt=-0.62, Ct=-0.44, Dt=Et=0, δMS=1
- smoothing factor δ =
6
axioms (5)
- domain assumption Flat ΛCDM cosmology with Ωm=0.3, ΩΛ=0.7, H0=70 km s^-1 Mpc^-1
- domain assumption Kroupa IMF and Bruzual & Charlot 2016 SPS models with delayed-τ SFH and Calzetti dust
- domain assumption Single-component Sérsic profile adequately recovers Re for the magnitude and size cuts adopted
- domain assumption sSFR100 < 0.2 / tage(z) cleanly separates quiescent from star-forming galaxies
- domain assumption Log-normal intrinsic size scatter about the mean size-mass relation
invented entities (1)
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compact star-forming galaxies (cSFGs)
independent evidence
read the original abstract
We investigate the rest-frame optical size-stellar mass relation of galaxies at $0.5<z<6.0$ using deep JWST/NIRCam and MIRI imaging from the PRIMER survey. We find that star-forming galaxies (SFGs) exhibit a broken power-law relation at all redshifts, with a nearly constant pivot mass ($M_{\rm p}$) of $\sim 10^{10} M_\odot$, and a slope flattening above $M_{\rm p}$. This highlights the prevalence of a population of compact, massive SFGs that was underrepresented in previous studies. The size distribution of quiescent galaxies (QGs) is well described by a mixture power-law model, with a pivot mass that increases from $M_{\rm p} \sim 10^{10.0} M_\odot$ at $z =0.75$ to $M_{\rm p} \sim 10^{10.5} M_\odot$ at $z = 2.6$, suggesting that the minimum halo mass required to quench high-mass galaxies increases with redshift. The bending in the size-mass relation of SFGs supports two distinct size growth modes. At $M_{\star} < M_{\rm p}$, size growth is closely coupled to halo growth, while at $M_{\star} > M_{\rm p}$, an increasing fraction of SFGs decouple from halo growth and become compact, likely associated with rapid bulge (and black hole) growth in $M_{\rm h} \gtrsim 10^{12} M_{\odot}$ halos. These compact SFGs are promising progenitors of massive QGs, as evidenced by their similar masses, surface brightness profiles, and morphologies. Their high number densities can account for the observed buildup of massive QGs at $z > 2$, suggesting that the compaction pathway, rather than major mergers of extended SFGs, dominates the formation of high-z massive QGs.
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