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Consensus decision protocols lift multi-agent LLMs on knowledge tasks; voting and judge protocols lift them on logic tasks.

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load-bearing objection Solid open multi-agent harness and useful ablations; the headline knowledge-vs-logic protocol ranking is overstated once MuSR 8B failures, Math outlier, and forced-round confounds are counted. the 4 major comments →

arxiv 2607.05477 v1 pith:44UH3LJ5 submitted 2026-07-06 cs.MA cs.AIcs.CL

Decision Protocols in Multi-Agent Large Language Model Conversations

classification cs.MA cs.AIcs.CL
keywords multi-agent systemslarge language modelsdecision protocolsconsensusvotingtest-time computeresponse diversityconversational task solving
verification ladder T0 review T1 audit T2 compute T3 formal T4 reserved

The pith

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This thesis builds and open-sources MALLM, a modular multi-agent framework that lets language-model agents discuss a problem and then settle on one answer via consensus, voting, or a judge. Across knowledge-heavy benchmarks (MMLU family, GPQA) and logic-heavy ones (StrategyQA, MuSR, SQuAD 2.0, math), the same agents produce higher scores when the decision rule is matched to the task type: consensus for knowledge, voting or judge for logic. Forcing every agent to draft its own first solution, rather than iterating on a single seed draft, measurably raises answer diversity and final accuracy; small tweaks to what voters see at decision time (confidence scores, extra facts, anonymity) barely move the needle. Smaller models gain more from the multi-agent setup than larger ones, at the price of substantially higher inference cost.

Core claim

When identical Llama-3 agents discuss a task, the choice of decision protocol is not neutral: consensus protocols produce higher accuracy on knowledge-intensive datasets while voting and judge protocols produce higher accuracy on logic-oriented datasets. Independently generated initial solutions increase response diversity and improve decision quality; modest changes to the information available during the final decision step do not.

What carries the argument

MALLM's three families of decision protocols—consensus (majority / supermajority / unanimity agreement thresholds), voting (simple, ranked, cumulative, approval), and a neutral judge that synthesizes a final answer—applied after a fixed multi-agent discussion under controlled response generators and discussion paradigms.

Load-bearing premise

That the knowledge-versus-logic ranking of protocols observed on a few hundred sampled items per dataset, with three agents and a fixed three-round discussion default, generalizes beyond those sampling and configuration choices.

What would settle it

Rerun the same protocol matrix on the full unsampled test sets (or substantially larger random draws) of MMLU-Pro and StrategyQA with both 8B and 70B backbones; if consensus no longer leads on the knowledge set or voting/judge no longer lead on the logic set, the central ranking claim fails.

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Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

4 major / 4 minor

Summary. The thesis introduces the open-source MALLM framework for multi-agent LLM discussions and systematically compares consensus (majority/supermajority/unanimity), voting (simple/ranked/cumulative/approval), and judge decision protocols on Llama-3 8B/70B across knowledge-oriented (MMLU, MMLU-Pro, GPQA) and logic-oriented (StrategyQA, MuSR, Math-lvl-5, SQuAD 2.0) benchmarks. It reports that consensus tends to outperform on knowledge tasks while voting and judge protocols do better on logic tasks (with smaller models gaining more), that independent initial drafting and collective refinement improve diversity and accuracy, that small changes to information at the decision step have negligible effect, and that post-hoc single-agent challenges rarely improve the multi-agent solution. Supporting ablations cover discussion rounds, agent count, response generators, and compute cost.

Significance. If the protocol-by-domain ranking and diversity findings hold under better-controlled conditions, the work supplies practical design guidance for multi-agent LLM systems and a reusable modular framework (MALLM) that other researchers can extend. Strengths include the open-source release, three-run standard deviations, explicit CoT and single-agent baselines, multiple ablations (diversity, vote-info variants, challenge study, compute), and the honest null result on decision-phase information alterations. These are genuine contributions even if the strongest domain-split claim requires qualification. The compute-time analysis and persona-driven agent scaling observations are also useful for the test-time compute literature.

major comments (4)
  1. [§4.1, Table 2] §4.1 / Table 2 (8B MuSR column) and the accompanying text: the large voting/judge advantage on MuSR (~55–59 % vs. consensus ~28 %) is driven by the acknowledged failure of the 8B model (and consensus extraction) to follow the long-context prompt, while the 70B table (Table 3) largely removes the gap. This cell therefore confounds the claimed “logic-task preference for voting/judge” and should be either excluded from the domain-average claim, re-run with a prompt that both families can follow, or explicitly flagged as an artifact rather than evidence for the ranking.
  2. [§3.1.1, Table 4, Fig. 6a] §3.1.1 and Table 4 / Appendix A.2: voting and judge protocols are forced to three discussion rounds before any decision (citing Du et al.), whereas consensus protocols routinely terminate after 1–2 rounds. The paper’s own ablation (Fig. 6a) shows that additional forced rounds degrade accuracy. The protocol comparison therefore confounds decision rule with discussion length; a matched-round or early-voting control is needed before the knowledge-vs-logic ranking can be attributed to the decision mechanism itself.
  3. [§4.1.1] §4.1.1 Takeaways item 1 states the opposite of the Abstract, §4.1 body, Tables 2–3 and §5.1: “Voting protocols excel in knowledge-based tasks, while consensus protocols perform better in logic-based…”. This inversion of the central empirical claim must be corrected; as written it misleads readers who rely on the takeaway boxes.
  4. [§4.1, Fig. 5, §3.2] Math-lvl-5 is an explicit outlier (unanimity consensus best) and SQuAD unanswerable vs. answerable splits reverse the overall voting advantage (Fig. 5). Combined with the finite-population subsamples of ~250–375 items × 3 seeds (§3.2), the power to support a clean knowledge-vs-logic protocol ranking is limited. The claim should be restated with these caveats or supported by a formal interaction test / larger sample.
minor comments (4)
  1. [throughout] Several typographical and formatting issues remain (e.g., “paragdims”, “G¨ ottingen”, inconsistent spacing around percentages, “Anonymus Voting”). A careful proof-read is needed.
  2. [Tables 2–4, Figs. 7–9] Approval voting is correctly excluded from averages because of systematic ties, yet it still appears in several figures and tables without a clear visual cue that it is non-comparable; a consistent “failed-to-decide” marker would help.
  3. [§4.5] Compute-time measurements (§4.5) include queue wait and are acknowledged as approximate; reporting token counts or wall-clock under a fixed concurrency budget would make the 5–15 imes cost claims more reproducible.
  4. [Appendix D] Appendix D examples are valuable but long; a short caption summarizing success vs. failure modes would improve navigability.

Circularity Check

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No circularity: pure empirical protocol comparison on external benchmarks with no fitted predictions or self-definitional reductions.

full rationale

This is an empirical systems paper that implements decision protocols (voting variants, consensus thresholds, judge) inside the MALLM framework and reports measured accuracy/F1 on fixed external datasets (MMLU, MMLU-Pro, GPQA, StrategyQA, MuSR, Math-lvl-5, SQuAD 2.0) against single-agent and CoT baselines. All claims (e.g., consensus stronger on knowledge tasks, voting/judge stronger on logic tasks; diversity helps; information alterations at decision time do not) are direct numerical outcomes of those runs (Tables 2–3, Figs. 5–13, Appendix A). There are no equations that redefine a target quantity in terms of itself, no parameters fitted to a subset then re-presented as predictions of a related quantity, no uniqueness theorems, no ansatz imported via self-citation, and no renaming of a known empirical pattern as a derived result. Self-citations (e.g., to Du et al. for the three-round default, or related multi-agent frameworks) supply only experimental defaults or context; the measured scores remain independent of those citations. The derivation chain is therefore self-contained against external labels and contains zero circular steps.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

5 free parameters · 4 axioms · 1 invented entities

Load-bearing structure is experimental design choices and domain assumptions about LLM multi-agent chat, not free physical constants or new ontological entities. The central claim rests on sampling design, fixed agent/round defaults, persona generation, and the operational definitions of consensus/voting/judge inside MALLM.

free parameters (5)
  • agents_per_discussion
    Default num_agents=3 (Appendix C); agent-count sweep on StrategyQA is secondary. Rankings depend on this choice.
  • forced_discussion_rounds_before_vote
    Default three rounds before voting/judge, justified by Du et al.; Figure 6a shows sensitivity to this hyperparameter.
  • consensus_thresholds
    Majority 50%, supermajority 66%, unanimity 100% are design choices that define when consensus fires.
  • evaluation_sample_sizes
    Per-dataset n from finite-population 95%/5% formula (§3.2); performance estimates and protocol rankings are conditioned on these subsets × 3 seeds.
  • max_turns_and_tie_fallback
    Max turns (often 5) and fallback to first agent on unresolved ties affect approval voting and long discussions.
axioms (4)
  • domain assumption Persona-conditioned Llama-3 agents plus iterative discussion approximate useful multi-expert collaboration for the chosen tasks.
    Invoked throughout §3.1 and related work on personas; without it, multi-agent overhead is not expected to beat CoT.
  • domain assumption External benchmark labels (MMLU-family, GPQA, StrategyQA, MuSR, MATH-lvl-5, SQuAD 2.0) are valid ground truth for comparing decision protocols.
    All reported accuracy/F1 comparisons rest on these labels (§3.2, §4).
  • ad hoc to paper Memory discussion paradigm and Simple response generator are representative enough defaults for protocol comparison.
    Main tables use memory + simple; other paradigms appear mainly in diversity ablations (§4.1–4.2).
  • domain assumption Standard multi-choice / F1 scoring and regex/prompt extraction of agreement and final answers faithfully recover agent decisions.
    Consensus extraction and final-answer prompts in Appendix B; failures noted on MuSR 8B.
invented entities (1)
  • MALLM modular multi-agent discussion framework independent evidence
    purpose: Unify persona generation, response generators, discussion paradigms, and decision protocols for conversational task solving.
    Software system introduced in §3.1; not a physical entity. Independent handle is the claimed public repository and batch configs, not a new scientific object.

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Improving the task performance of Large Language Models (LLMs) is essential, yet scaling these models faces significant challenges such as diminishing returns and high costs. Multi-Agent Systems (MAS) offer a promising solution by distributing tasks among specialized agents to improve the overall task performance. This can reduce training costs at the expense of increased test time due to the discussion and decision-making process. The decision protocol is a critical component of MAS because it specifies how multiple agents collaborate to create a final solution. This thesis introduces the Multi-Agent LLM (MALLM) framework, which implements and evaluates various decision protocols, namely voting, consensus, and judge decision mechanisms, to simulate multi-agent discussions for conversational task solving. Unlike previous work that used a single decision protocol or tested them on limited datasets, this study systematically examines their impact on a diverse set of tasks, ranging from knowledge-based datasets (MMLU, MMLU-Pro, GPQA) and logic-based datasets (StrategyQA, MuSR, Math-lvl-5, SQuAD 2.0). The results indicate that consensus protocols excel in knowledge-intensive domains while voting and judge protocols are more effective for logic-based tasks. Increasing response diversity through independent solution generation improves decision quality, while changes in information access during the decision process have minimal impact.

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