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Black hole periapsis shift shows a prograde-retrograde-prograde structure at extremality.

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load-bearing objection Novel triple prograde-retrograde-prograde periapsis signature in an extremal massive-gravity model, but the central claim rests on a linearized quasi-circular formula that is never validated against exact orbits. the 4 major comments →

arxiv 2511.07902 v3 pith:EOQN55MW submitted 2025-11-11 gr-qc hep-th

The Influence of Stable Photon Sphere Advent on Orbital Precession in moving towards the Extremality

Mohammad Ali S. Afshar , J.Sadeghi This is my paper
classification gr-qc hep-th
keywords periapsis shiftquasi-circular orbitsstable photon sphereAschenbach-like effectextremal black holesWeak Gravity ConjectureModMax gravitymassive gravity
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The paper studies how the periapsis shift of a test particle on a quasi-circular orbit behaves in static charged black holes as the charge approaches the extremal limit and when a stable photon sphere sits outside the horizon. It argues that the shift remains well-defined at extremality, continuously reflecting the underlying geometry, and that the combination of extremality and a stable photon sphere produces a characteristic three-region pattern: prograde precession near the horizon, retrograde in an intermediate band, and prograde again farther out. Because this qualitative pattern appears only when both features are present, the paper proposes the periapsis shift as a dynamical probe of strong-field spacetimes that can serve as evidence for the Weak Gravity Conjecture. If the claim holds, orbital precession would offer a new observational window into black hole structure beyond photon-sphere studies.

Core claim

The paper examines four charged black hole models: ModMax in flat and AdS spacetimes, an AdS Born-Infeld massive gravity model, and a ModMax-dRGT-like massive gravity model. In the first two, the periapsis shift is purely prograde in the subextremal and extremal regimes, and its qualitative pattern is preserved at extremality. In the Born-Infeld model, a stable photon sphere outside the horizon produces a non-monotonic angular-velocity profile and modifies the shift, giving a two-region prograde-retrograde structure. In the ModMax-dRGT-like model, where extremality and a stable photon sphere coexist, the shift exhibits a three-region structure: inner prograde, intermediate retrograde, and ou

What carries the argument

The central mechanism is the effective potential V(r) for timelike geodesics. For a circular orbit at radius r, the radial frequency omega_r is the square root of V''(r), and the orbital angular velocity omega_phi is given by the metric function. The periapsis shift is Delta Phi_p = 2 pi (1/sqrt(A) - 1), where A = (omega_r / omega_phi)^2; A < 1 gives prograde precession and A > 1 gives retrograde precession. The second key element is the stable photon sphere, a local minimum of the null-geodesic potential H outside the event horizon, which produces a potential well that modifies V'' and thus the radial frequency, altering the sign of the shift. Extremality is imposed by tuning the charge so

Load-bearing premise

The central claim rests on treating the periapsis shift derived from the linearized quasi-circular orbit equation, delta-r-double-dot plus V'' delta-r = 0, as a faithful description of actual orbital precession across all radii, including near the stable photon sphere and the extremal horizon, without checking against exact orbit integration or higher-order corrections.

What would settle it

Numerically integrate the full timelike geodesic equations for the ModMax-dRGT-like model at the extremal charge, sampling orbits with periapsis in the inner, intermediate, and outer radial zones, and compare the exact periapsis shift with the prediction from the linearized formula Eq. (14). If the exact orbits do not reproduce the prograde-retrograde-prograde pattern, the three-region structure is an artifact of the small-perturbation approximation.

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If this is right

  • If the paper is right, the periapsis shift is a well-defined dynamical quantity in the extremal regime and can be used as an additional extremal indicator alongside the event horizon and photon sphere.
  • The three-region prograde-retrograde-prograde structure, when observed, would signal the simultaneous presence of extremality and an external stable photon sphere, which the paper links to the Weak Gravity Conjecture.
  • The qualitative behavior of the shift (not just its magnitude) becomes a diagnostic that can distinguish black hole models that support a stable photon sphere from those that do not.
  • During black hole evaporation, the radial recession of the horizon and photon sphere would be mirrored in the evolving periapsis shift profile, potentially yielding observable signatures in redshift or blueshift of emitted radiation.
  • The paper suggests that periapsis shift analysis captures both geometric and dynamical information beyond what photon-sphere analyses alone provide.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Beyond the paper: the linearized quasi-circular formula used to define the periapsis shift may fail for large eccentricities or near the stable photon sphere; checking the three-region structure with exact numerical orbit integration would test whether it is a genuine dynamical phase or an approximation artifact.
  • Beyond the paper: if the three-region pattern survives exact integration, it may be a generic feature of any theory with an external potential minimum, not just the specific ModMax-dRGT-like massive gravity model, making it a useful classification criterion for modified gravity theories.
  • Beyond the paper: the intermediate retrograde zone could provide a target for future gravitational wave or pulsar timing observations around extremal candidates, though the relevant timescales are likely billions of years.
  • Beyond the paper: a testable extension is to include eccentric orbits and higher-order corrections in the precession calculation; if the three-region sign structure persists, the result would be robust enough to serve as a practical observable.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper studies the periapsis shift of neutral test particles in static, spherically symmetric black-hole spacetimes, using the standard small-perturbation/epicyclic formula (Eq. 14) for quasi-circular orbits. It computes the ratio A = (ω_r/ω_φ)^2 for four models: ModMax, AdS ModMax, Born-Infeld massive gravity with non-abelian hair, and ModMax-dRGT-like massive gravity. The main results are: (i) the periapsis-shift pattern persists at extremality in the ModMax models; (ii) a stable photon sphere outside the horizon modifies the periapsis shift; and (iii) in the extremal ModMax-dRGT model the shift exhibits a three-region structure—inner prograde, intermediate retrograde, outer prograde. The abstract and conclusion present this three-region structure as a meaningful experimental probe and as evidence for the Weak Gravity Conjecture (WGC).

Significance. If the three-region structure is robust, it would be a qualitatively new orbital signature of the coexistence of extremality and an external stable photon sphere, and the model-to-model comparison is potentially useful for strong-field gravity studies. The algebraic core—computing A from V'' and ω_φ² for the ModMax family—is standard and, for the ModMax model, internally consistent when checked. The paper also correctly uses the topological-photon-sphere method to identify stable/unstable photon spheres. However, the significance is heavily conditional: the WGC claim is an interpretive step not derived from the equations, the observable magnitude of the predicted precession is not estimated, and the robustness of the three-region structure is not tested against exact geodesic integration or a parameter-space scan.

major comments (4)
  1. [§II.B, Eq. (14)] The central quantity is the epicyclic frequency ratio for infinitesimal oscillations about a stable circular orbit. The paper identifies the sign of A with the periapsis shift and applies Eq. (14) over the whole allowed radial range, including the transitions where A=1. No exact geodesic integration is performed, and no bound on the eccentricity range is given. Since the three-region structure in Fig. 18 depends precisely on sign changes of 1/√A − 1, nonlinear and finite-eccentricity corrections could shift or erase the boundaries. The authors should either restrict the claim to 'epicyclic precession of quasi-circular orbits' or verify the structure by numerical integration of the exact geodesic equation for representative eccentricities.
  2. [§V–§VI] The inference from classical geodesic calculations to the WGC does not follow. The computations show that, for a fixed classical metric with chosen parameters and a stable photon sphere, the local epicyclic frequency ratio crosses unity. This says nothing about the existence of superextremal quantum states required by the WGC. The 'persistence of black-hole behavior' at extremality is a property of a particular solution, not evidence about the particle spectrum. Section VI also admits that the relevant processes act on timescales far exceeding direct observation and provides no estimate of the precession magnitude. The abstract and conclusion should be substantially weakened, or the WGC discussion replaced by a precise model-dependent statement.
  3. [§V, Figs. 17–18] The advertised three-region structure is demonstrated for a single parameter set: M=2, γ=2, Λ=−0.5, C=0.4, c1=−12, c2=25, mg=0.5, with q_ext=2.0881742 computed numerically. The model has many free parameters, and the paper does not scan over them. It is therefore unclear whether the three-region structure is a generic feature of the ModMax-dRGT family or an artifact of a special parameter choice. A scan over the most sensitive parameters (mg, C, c1, c2) is needed before the effect can be presented as a robust probe.
  4. [§III, after Eq. (15)] The statement that the Reissner-Nordström model 'fails to accommodate extremality' and that at M=Q 'the spacetime evolves toward a naked singularity' is factually incorrect. Extremal RN has a double horizon at r=M and is a standard black-hole solution; naked singularities occur only for Q>M. This error appears in the motivation for choosing the ModMax model and should be corrected.
minor comments (5)
  1. [§II, topological charge discussion] The text states that a black hole usually has total topological charge −1 and that a structure with total charge 0 usually corresponds to a naked singularity. However, the Born-Infeld massive-gravity black hole in §IV has one unstable and one stable photon sphere outside the horizon. The paper should clarify how the horizon boundary contributes to the total topological charge, so that the presence of a stable photon sphere is not presented as being in tension with its own criterion.
  2. [Throughout] There are numerous typos and notational inconsistencies: 'pervious', 'prob', 'sufficient', 'EV APORATION' in the Section VI title, q vs Q, and e^{−ε} vs e^{−γ} in Eq. (17). The text would benefit from careful proofreading.
  3. [Eqs. (21), (26), (33)] These equations are typeset ambiguously, with missing parentheses and large unresolved fractions. Please rewrite them in a readable, unambiguous form.
  4. [Figs. 5–18] Many figures have low resolution and incomplete axis labels or captions. In particular, Figs. 17 and 18 should identify which curves correspond to subextremal, extremal, and superextremal charges.
  5. [§VI] The observational discussion would be stronger if the authors defined what 'prograde/retrograde' means for a distant observer and estimated the magnitude of the periapsis shift in physical units for a representative mass and orbital radius.

Circularity Check

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No load-bearing circularity: the periapsis-shift profiles are computed directly from the metric via the standard epicyclic formula, and the WGC interpretation is an interpretive overlay rather than a circular derivation.

full rationale

The derivation chain is explicit and self-contained: the effective potential (Eq. 5) is obtained from the metric, circular orbits are fixed by V=V'=0, the linearized radial equation (Eq. 11) gives the epicyclic frequency, and Eq. (14) defines the periapsis shift as DeltaPhi_p = 2*pi*(1/sqrt(A) - 1) with A = (omega_r/omega_phi)^2. For each model (ModMax, AdS ModMax, Born-Infeld massive gravity, and ModMax-dRGT-like massive gravity), the paper evaluates A and DeltaPhi from the metric functions and parameter choices; the sign changes of DeltaPhi, including the three-region prograde-retrograde-prograde structure in Fig. 18, are computed consequences of the metric, not fitted or imposed. The mapping A<1 to prograde and A>1 to retrograde is definitional, but the crossings of A=1 are not built into the definitions; they arise from the chosen model parameters. The WGC discussion is interpretive: the paper cites independent reviews for the WGC itself and cites the authors' prior work for the 'WGC as WCCC protector' framing, but that framing motivates the interpretation rather than entering the algebraic calculation. The most serious caveat, that Eq. (14) is a linearized quasi-circular approximation not validated against exact geodesic integration near the stable photon sphere or extremal horizon, is a question of approximation validity and observational relevance, not circularity: the prediction is not equivalent to the input by construction. The self-citations in refs. [12,13,27,28,31,32] are present but are not load-bearing for the central computation, and the relevant photon-sphere and Aschenbach-like structures are also re-derived and illustrated within this paper (Figs. 4, 12, 16).

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

2 free parameters · 5 axioms · 0 invented entities

The paper introduces no new fundamental entities (no new particles, forces, or dimensions). Its free parameters are the model parameter values, which are chosen by hand; the extremal charges are numerically determined inputs. The main unstated assumptions are the global validity of the linearized quasi-circular periapsis-shift formula and the interpretive link between classical geodesic behavior and the Weak Gravity Conjecture.

free parameters (2)
  • Model parameter sets (M, γ, Λ, C, c1, c2, mg, ν, ζ, q) for each figure = e.g., M=1, γ=2, q=2.71828 for ModMax; M=10, C=5, c1=-5, c2=5, mg=0.1 for Born-Infeld; M=2, C=0.4, c1=-12, c2=25, mg=0.5
    These are chosen by hand to make the models exhibit extremal behavior and stable photon spheres; no physical or observational motivation is given. The extremal charge values (e.g., q=2.0881742) are computed from the metric but depend on the chosen parameter values.
  • Extremal/superextremal charge values = q=2.71828 (ModMax), q=2.48019052524 (AdS ModMax), q=2.0881742 (ModMax-dRGT), q≈3 threshold (Born-Infeld)
    These are numerically determined from the condition that horizons merge, but the paper presents them as fixed constants without a reproducible computation or error estimate.
axioms (5)
  • standard math The static, spherically symmetric metric form Eq. (1) with Z2 symmetry and geodesic equations derived from the standard Lagrangian are the correct description.
    Standard GR geodesic formalism; not in question.
  • domain assumption The periapsis shift formula ΔΦp = 2π(1/sqrt(A) - 1) with A = (ωr/ωϕ)^2 is valid for a quasi-circular orbit at all radii considered.
    This is the central assumption; the paper uses Eq. (14) globally without checking the small-eccentricity/linearization validity or comparing to exact orbits.
  • domain assumption β = 2 - rν' > 0 defines the physical region for massive particle orbits, and β < 0 means 'non-physical energy and momentum values'.
    Introduced in Eq. (6) and used to identify physical regions (e.g., Fig. 13), but its physical meaning is asserted, not derived, and it is used to exclude regions where the three-region structure is discussed.
  • standard math The topological photon-sphere method (H and Ψ) correctly identifies stable/unstable photon spheres and that a black hole must have total topological charge -1.
    This is a cited framework from the literature (refs. [24-26]), accepted as standard in the field.
  • ad hoc to paper The persistence of black-hole-like dynamics at extremality constitutes evidence for the Weak Gravity Conjecture.
    This is the interpretive leap of the paper: the WGC is a quantum-gravity conjecture, and the paper's classical geodesic analysis cannot directly test it. The connection is asserted in the Introduction, Sections III and VI, but no rigorous argument links periapsis shift behavior to the existence of superextremal particles.

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In this work, we investigate the behaviour of the periapsis shift in static charged black-hole spacetimes, focusing on the interplay between extremality and the Aschenbach-like effect. We first examine the evolution of orbital dynamics as the extremal limit is approached in representative charged black-hole models. We then extend the analysis to black-hole geometries that admit a stable photon sphere outside the event horizon, where the Aschenbach-like effect has previously been identified. Our results show that the periapsis shift remains a well-defined dynamical quantity in the extremal regime and continuously reflects changes in the underlying spacetime geometry. For black-hole solutions possessing an external stable photon sphere, the associated minimum of the effective potential produces characteristic modifications in both the angular-velocity profile and the periapsis shift. When extremality and the Aschenbach-like effect coexist, the orbital dynamics undergo a qualitative transition, giving rise to a three-region structure consisting of an inner prograde region, an intermediate retrograde region, and an outer prograde region. Within the black-hole models investigated in this work, such behaviour is absent from the other configurations considered. These results demonstrate that the periapsis shift provides a sensitive dynamical probe of strong-field black-hole spacetimes, encoding both geometric and orbital information beyond that obtained from photon-sphere analyses alone. Our findings highlight the rich orbital structure that can emerge from the combined presence of extremality and an external stable photon sphere and provide a useful framework for future studies of orbital dynamics in modified theories of gravity.

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