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Gibbs-preserving operations achieve strictly higher reliability than thermal operations in asymptotic work extraction.

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load-bearing objection The paper shows reliability of asymptotic work extraction differs between Gibbs-preserving and thermal operations, with Petz Rényi characterizing the former and sandwiched the latter, even though rates match.

arxiv 2606.06318 v1 pith:FVXXDAOF submitted 2026-06-04 quant-ph cond-mat.stat-mech

Reliability of asymptotic work extraction

classification quant-ph cond-mat.stat-mech
keywords quantum thermodynamicswork extractionthermal operationsGibbs-preserving operationsRényi relative entropyasymptotic reliabilityerror suppression
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The paper examines the trade-off between work extraction rate and reliability in quantum thermodynamics. While both Gibbs-preserving operations and thermal operations allow the same optimal asymptotic work extraction rate given by the Helmholtz free energy, their performance differs when considering the speed at which extraction errors can be suppressed. It shows that this reliability is characterized by the Petz Rényi relative entropy for Gibbs-preserving operations and the sandwiched Rényi relative entropy for thermal operations, with the former generally outperforming the latter. This highlights that energy conservation constraints in thermal operations impose stronger limitations on precision than axiomatic Gibbs-preserving ones suggest.

Core claim

The reliability of asymptotic work extraction, measured by the optimal speed of error suppression, is characterized by the Petz Rényi relative entropy under Gibbs-preserving operations and by the sandwiched Rényi relative entropy under thermal operations, with the former strictly outperforming the latter in general.

What carries the argument

The Petz and sandwiched Rényi relative entropies, which serve as the figures of merit for the asymptotic reliability of work extraction under the two classes of operations.

Load-bearing premise

That the optimal asymptotic speed at which the extraction error can be suppressed fully captures the reliability and is determined by the corresponding Rényi relative entropies for each operation class.

What would settle it

An explicit example or calculation where the asymptotic error suppression rate for thermal operations exceeds or equals that for Gibbs-preserving operations in a non-trivial setting would falsify the claimed strict outperformance.

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If this is right

  • Both operation classes yield the same optimal work extraction rate equal to the Helmholtz free energy difference.
  • Gibbs-preserving operations can suppress extraction errors faster than thermal operations asymptotically.
  • The analysis provides new operational interpretations for the Petz and sandwiched Rényi divergences.
  • Operational constraints like energy conservation limit achievable precision beyond what rates alone indicate.

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  • Similar distinctions may appear in other quantum resource theories when moving from rates to reliability measures.
  • Practical implementations of work extraction may need to account for energy conservation more carefully than axiomatic models suggest.
  • Extensions to finite-size regimes could reveal even larger gaps between the two operation classes.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript claims that while the optimal asymptotic rate of work extraction is the same (Helmholtz free energy) for both Gibbs-preserving operations and thermal operations, a refined analysis of the reliability—defined via the optimal asymptotic speed at which the extraction error can be suppressed—reveals a strict separation: this reliability is characterized by the Petz Rényi relative entropy for Gibbs-preserving operations and the sandwiched Rényi relative entropy for thermal operations, with the former class strictly outperforming the latter in general. The work provides new operational interpretations of these divergences and argues that energy conservation imposes stronger limitations on precision than can be seen from rates alone.

Significance. If the characterizations hold, the result is significant for quantum thermodynamics and resource theories: it demonstrates that axiomatic and operational classes of free operations, previously equivalent at the level of asymptotic rates, differ in their reliability trade-offs. This supplies concrete operational meanings to the Petz and sandwiched Rényi divergences in a thermodynamic setting and cautions against substituting Gibbs-preserving operations for thermal operations when precision matters. The approach appears to rest on standard information-theoretic quantities without ad-hoc parameters.

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  1. Clarify the precise definition of the asymptotic regime (e.g., number of copies, error exponents, and any finite-dimensional assumptions) in the statements of the main theorems.
  2. Ensure consistent notation for the Rényi parameters (α) across the characterizations of Petz and sandwiched divergences and verify that the range of α for which the characterizations hold is explicitly stated.

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We thank the referee for their positive summary, significance assessment, and recommendation of minor revision. No specific major comments were provided in the report.

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No significant circularity; derivation relies on external information-theoretic quantities

full rationale

The paper's central claim characterizes the reliability of work extraction under Gibbs-preserving operations and thermal operations via the Petz and sandwiched Rényi relative entropies, respectively. These are standard, externally defined divergences in quantum information theory, not quantities constructed or fitted within the paper itself. The abstract and provided context show no self-definitional steps, fitted inputs renamed as predictions, or load-bearing self-citations that reduce the result to the paper's own inputs by construction. The derivation chain appears self-contained against external benchmarks, with the claimed strict outperformance following from the known inclusion of thermal operations in the larger Gibbs-preserving class.

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Review performed on abstract only; no explicit free parameters, axioms, or invented entities are stated. Standard background assumptions of quantum information theory (completely positive trace-preserving maps, asymptotic i.i.d. limits) are implicitly used but not enumerated.

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Extracting work from quantum states is a fundamental task in quantum thermodynamics. Previous studies have primarily focused on determining the best achievable rate of work extraction, and remarkably, this characterization appeared to remain unchanged regardless of the choice of allowed processes: whether one considers the operationally motivated class of energy-conserving thermal operations, or the axiomatic class of Gibbs-preserving operations, the optimal extractable work is given by the Helmholtz free energy. Here, we challenge this perspective, showing that a more refined analysis of the asymptotic performance of work extraction reveals significant differences in the performance for the two different classes of free operations. Precisely, we focus on the trade-off between the extraction rate and its reliability, characterized by the optimal asymptotic speed at which the extraction error can be suppressed. We establish that the reliability of Gibbs-preserving operations and of thermal operations are respectively characterized by the Petz and the sandwiched R\'enyi relative entropies, demonstrating that the former in general strictly outperforms the latter, and providing new interpretations of several information-theoretic divergences. Our analysis reveals that operational constraints such as energy conservation impose stronger limitations on the achievable precision of quantum tasks than can be inferred from their asymptotic rates, thereby questioning the use of Gibbs-preserving operations as a mathematically convenient substitute for the physically realizable thermal processes.

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