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arxiv: 2605.05333 · v2 · pith:QF6D7ZHOnew · submitted 2026-05-06 · ✦ hep-th · math-ph· math.MP

Towards Wedge Construction of Four-Dimensional Non-Supersymmetric Theories and Torsion Classes

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G2 torsion classes characterize the torsion and supersymmetry breaking in M-theory compactifications to four dimensions

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This paper establishes that G2 torsion classes on a seven-manifold, realized as a deformed K3 fibration over a three-manifold, efficiently describe both the manifold's torsion and the supersymmetry breaking in the resulting four-dimensional theory. The setup uses the Morrison-Vafa limit with a local pinched structure consisting of a torus fibration over a pinched circle base. Reducing the M-theory system in two ways produces Type 0A and Type 0 heterotic theories on non-Kahler manifolds whose SU(3) torsion classes capture the geometry. A reader might care because this provides a concrete geometric tool for studying non-supersymmetric string compactifications and their possible dualities.

Core claim

Once the doubled-spectrum decomposition and the local pinched structure are specified, the G2 torsion classes characterize the torsion of the seven-manifold and the supersymmetry breaking in four dimensions. The pinching deformation lies in the 27 of G2 and is distributed differently into the W2 and W3 torsion classes of the corresponding SU(3) structures under the two reductions. In the supersymmetric limit and under suitable assumptions the resulting theories may become U-dual, but away from that limit any such duality requires caution.

What carries the argument

The G2 torsion classes on the seven-manifold with deformed K3 fibration, which characterize both the manifold torsion and the supersymmetry breaking in four dimensions.

If this is right

  • The torsion of the seven-manifold is captured by the G2 classes.
  • Supersymmetry breaking in four dimensions is characterized by these classes.
  • Two inequivalent reductions lead to Type 0A and Type 0 heterotic theories described by SU(3) torsion classes.
  • The pinching deformation in the 27 of G2 splits into W2 and W3 of SU(3).
  • The two theories may be U-dual in the supersymmetric limit under suitable conditions.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • This framework might extend to other singular wedge geometries for building additional non-supersymmetric models.
  • Explicit calculations of torsion components could test whether duality persists away from the supersymmetric limit.
  • The distribution of deformations into specific torsion classes may offer new classifications of non-Kahler compactifications.

Load-bearing premise

In the Morrison-Vafa limit the deformed K3 can be described locally as a non-trivial torus fibration over a base that is a pinched circle fibered over an interval, together with the assumption that the two reductions become U-dual only under suitable conditions in the supersymmetric limit.

What would settle it

Explicit computation of the G2 torsion classes in a concrete model of the deformed K3 fibration, followed by verification of their distribution into the W2 and W3 classes under the two reductions, would confirm or refute the characterization.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.05333 by Keshav Dasgupta, Radu Tatar.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: The behavior of ϵ+ and ϵ− from (219) as well as the difference ϵ+ − ϵ− from (221) at the symmetric point T = 0 as well as the two supersymmetric end points T = ±RB = ±1 where Type IIA is realized. Note that all the parameters remain well-defined at the symmetric point as well as the two end points. 1.00 0.75 0.50 0.25 0.00 0.25 0.50 0.75 1.00 T/RB 0.8 0.6 0.4 0.2 0.0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 d d(T/RB) ( ) T = 0 T =… view at source ↗
Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: The behavior of ϵ+ and ϵ− from (227) as well as the difference ϵ+ − ϵ− from (229) at the symmetric point T = 0 as well as the two supersymmetric end points T = ±RB = ±1 where Type IIA is realized. Note that all the parameters remain well-defined at the symmetric point as well as the two end points. There is however couple more subtlety. The first one is the following: since in the symmetric regime the pinc… view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: Similar plots as the previous ones but now for the derivatives as defined in (220). Note view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: Similar plots as the previous ones but now for the derivatives as defined in (228). Note [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p061_2.png] view at source ↗
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Motivated by recent proposals relating non-supersymmetric Type 0A theory to M-theory compactified on a singular wedge geometry, we study an M-theory compactification on a seven-manifold with G_2 structure, realized as a deformed K3 fibration over a compact three-manifold. In the Morrison--Vafa limit, the deformed K3 may be described locally as a non-trivial torus fibration over a base that is itself a pinched circle fibered over an interval. Once the doubled-spectrum decomposition and the local pinched structure are specified, we show that the G_2 torsion classes provide a natural and efficient way to characterize both the torsion of the seven-manifold and the resulting supersymmetry breaking in four dimensions. Reducing the system to ten dimensions in two inequivalent ways leads respectively to Type 0A and Type 0 heterotic theories compactified on two different non-Kahler manifolds, for which the SU(3) torsion classes furnish the appropriate mathematical description. In particular, we argue that the pinching deformation lies in the 27 of G_2, and that under the two reductions it is distributed differently into the W_2 and W_3 torsion classes of the corresponding SU(3) structures. In the supersymmetric limit, and under suitable assumptions, the two resulting theories may become U-dual to one another. Away from that limit, however, we argue that any such duality should be treated with considerable caution.

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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper studies M-theory compactifications on seven-manifolds with G2 structure, realized as deformed K3 fibrations over a compact three-manifold. In the Morrison-Vafa limit the local geometry is described as a torus fibration over a pinched circle fibered over an interval. The authors argue that once the doubled-spectrum decomposition and pinched structure are fixed, the G2 torsion classes characterize both the seven-manifold torsion and the resulting four-dimensional supersymmetry breaking. Reductions in two inequivalent ways yield Type 0A and Type 0 heterotic theories on non-Kähler manifolds whose SU(3) torsion classes describe the geometry; the pinching deformation is claimed to lie in the 27 of G2 and to distribute differently into the W2 and W3 classes of the two SU(3) structures. In the supersymmetric limit the two theories may become U-dual under suitable assumptions, but caution is advised away from that limit.

Significance. If the representation assignments and local-model identifications are verified, the work supplies a concrete torsion-class dictionary linking G2 geometry to supersymmetry breaking and to two distinct 10D non-supersymmetric string theories. This could furnish a useful organizing principle for non-supersymmetric compactifications and for exploring possible dualities, building on standard G2 and SU(3) torsion-class literature.

major comments (2)
  1. [Morrison-Vafa limit discussion] Morrison-Vafa limit and local pinched structure: the claim that the pinching deformation lies in the 27 of G2 and splits into the W2/W3 classes of the two SU(3) structures is load-bearing for the central assertion that G2 torsion classes characterize supersymmetry breaking. No explicit local metric, 3-form, or direct computation of the torsion classes on the deformed K3 fibration (torus over pinched circle over interval) is supplied, leaving it unclear whether the representation content follows from the geometry or is imposed by hand.
  2. [Reduction to ten dimensions] Reduction to ten dimensions: the statement that the two inequivalent reductions produce Type 0A and Type 0 heterotic theories whose SU(3) torsion classes furnish the appropriate description requires an explicit dictionary between the G2 torsion classes and the resulting four-dimensional supersymmetry-breaking patterns to confirm that the characterization is not merely re-labeling.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] The abstract and introduction would benefit from a short statement of the precise new result (e.g., an explicit relation between a G2 torsion class and a four-dimensional mass term or vacuum energy) rather than only the general claim.
  2. Standard references for the G2 and SU(3) torsion-class decompositions should be cited explicitly when the W2 and W3 classes are first introduced.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the careful reading of our manuscript and for the constructive comments. We address each major comment below and will revise the manuscript accordingly to strengthen the presentation.

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  1. Referee: [Morrison-Vafa limit discussion] Morrison-Vafa limit and local pinched structure: the claim that the pinching deformation lies in the 27 of G2 and splits into the W2/W3 classes of the two SU(3) structures is load-bearing for the central assertion that G2 torsion classes characterize supersymmetry breaking. No explicit local metric, 3-form, or direct computation of the torsion classes on the deformed K3 fibration (torus over pinched circle over interval) is supplied, leaving it unclear whether the representation content follows from the geometry or is imposed by hand.

    Authors: We agree that an explicit local computation would make the argument more transparent and directly address the concern about whether the representation content is derived from the geometry. The pinching deformation is introduced through the specific fibration structure in the Morrison-Vafa limit, which by construction selects the 27 component of G2 while preserving the overall G2 structure; the distribution into W2 and W3 then follows from the two inequivalent SU(3) reductions. In the revised version we will add an appendix containing the explicit local metric, the 3-form, and the direct evaluation of the torsion classes on the torus-over-pinched-circle-over-interval model to demonstrate this explicitly. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Reduction to ten dimensions] Reduction to ten dimensions: the statement that the two inequivalent reductions produce Type 0A and Type 0 heterotic theories whose SU(3) torsion classes furnish the appropriate description requires an explicit dictionary between the G2 torsion classes and the resulting four-dimensional supersymmetry-breaking patterns to confirm that the characterization is not merely re-labeling.

    Authors: We will expand the discussion of the dimensional reductions to include an explicit dictionary that maps each G2 torsion class to the corresponding four-dimensional supersymmetry-breaking pattern. This dictionary will also show how the G2 classes descend to the specific W2 and W3 components of the two SU(3) structures, thereby establishing that the characterization is geometric rather than a relabeling. The revised manuscript will present this mapping in a dedicated subsection. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity: derivation uses external torsion-class formalism on specified geometric inputs

full rationale

The paper begins from an explicit setup (doubled-spectrum decomposition plus local pinched structure in the Morrison-Vafa limit) and applies the pre-existing G2 and SU(3) torsion-class decompositions, which are standard results in the literature and not redefined here. The statement that the pinching deformation lies in the 27 of G2 and splits into W2/W3 components is presented as a geometric consequence of the local torus-fibration model rather than a fit or self-definition. Reductions to Type 0A and Type 0 heterotic theories are described as two inequivalent compactifications whose torsion classes follow from the same external classification; U-duality is invoked only in the supersymmetric limit under stated assumptions. No equation or claim reduces by construction to a fitted parameter, a self-citation chain, or a renamed input. The derivation therefore remains self-contained against external mathematical benchmarks.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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The construction rests on standard properties of G2 and SU(3) structures plus the existence of the Morrison-Vafa limit; no new free parameters or invented entities are explicitly introduced in the abstract.

axioms (2)
  • standard math G2 structures admit torsion classes that classify deviations from holonomy and supersymmetry preservation
    Invoked when stating that G2 torsion classes characterize the seven-manifold torsion and supersymmetry breaking.
  • standard math SU(3) structures admit torsion classes W2 and W3 that describe non-Kahler manifolds in string compactifications
    Used to describe the reduced Type 0A and heterotic theories.

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