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Astrophysics · arXiv:astro-ph/0404477 v1 · submitted 23 Apr 2004 · 24 references

Wide Angle Redshift Distortions Revisited

Istvan Szapudi

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“We explore linear redshift distortions in wide angle surveys from the point of view of symmetries.”

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We show that the redshift space two-point correlation function can be expanded into tripolar spherical harmonics of zero total angular momentum Sl1l2l3(x̂1,x̂2,x̂). The coefficients of the expansion Bl1l2l3 are analogous to the Cl's of the angular power spectrum, and express the anisotropy of the redshift space correlation function. Moreover, only a handful of Bl1l2l3 are non-zero: the resulting formulae reveal a hidden simplicity comparable to distant observer limit. The Bl1l2l3 depend on spherical Bessel moments of the power spectrum and f = Ω0.6/b. In the plane parallel limit, the results of i̧teKaiser1987 and i̧teHamilton1993 are recovered. The general formalism is used to derive useful new expressions. We present a particularly simple trigonometric polynomial expansion, which is arguably the most compact expression of wide angle redshift distortions. These formulae are suitable to inversion due to the orthogonality of the basis functions. An alternative Legendre polynomial expansion was obtained as well. This can be shown to be equivalent to the results of i̧teSzalayEtal1998. The simplicity of the underlying theory will admit similar calculations for higher order statistics as well.

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Holds up, with conditions. The angular-momentum algebra is correct and Eq. 11 is a genuinely useful compact form, but the 'B's are like Cl's' framing oversells what survey data can actually constrain. This line is wrong

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The paper says, at Section 2, Eq. (6), B224

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Pith says: Objection 1 of 2 · major

As printed, B224 = 4√2√35 f^2 ξ4(x) is inconsistent with Eq. (5) and with the other coefficients in Eq. (6). Applying Eq. (5) with l1=l2=2 and l=4 gives (2l+1) i^l (2 2 4;000) F2^2 = 9 · 1 · √(2/35) · (4/9) f^2 = 4√(2/35) f^2 ξ4(x) ≈ 0.956 f^2 ξ4(x), not 4√70 f^2 ξ4(x) ≈ 33.5 f^2 ξ4(x).

more of objection 1

This looks like a missing division bar in typesetting, but because Eq. (6) is the central result, the coefficient should be corrected and checked against a direct numerical evaluation of Eq. (2).

The paper says, at Section 2, paragraph after Eq. (6), and abstract

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Pith says: Objection 2 of 2 · major

The statements that the B's are 'analogous to the C_l's of the angular power spectrum' and 'form a natural basis for maximum likelihood estimation' should be qualified. The B's are deterministic functions of x given P(k) and f, not stochastic estimators, and the orthogonality in Eq.

more of objection 2

(7) is over the full 3-sphere dΩ1 dΩ2 dΩ3, whereas the physical correlation function is defined only on coplanar triples (property iv); property (vi) extends the domain within the coplanar set but does not make the data cover the full 3-sphere. The directly estimable object is therefore the 2D trigonometric expansion of Eq. (11), which the paper does present as the practical inversion route; the B's are better described as a compact theoretical intermediate than as an ML basis. This is a qualification of the framing, not a correctness error in the derivation.

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7 minor objections

The paper says, at Section 2, Eq. (2)

Pith says: minor objection 1 of 7

The first term of Eq. (2) appears to carry a stray factor (the '1/2' in the printed text) that is inconsistent with B000 = (1 + f/3)^2 ξ0(x) in Eq. (6); please check the typesetting.

The paper says, at Section 4, Eq. (13) and accompanying text

Pith says: minor objection 2 of 7

The claim that Szalay et al. (1998) Eq. (15) contains a typographical error (4/15 → 8/15) should be verified against the published version and, if confirmed, stated with a brief explanation of where the discrepancy enters.

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The paper says, at Figure 1 caption

Pith says: minor objection 3 of 7

The description of the three sets of lines ('increasing and decreasing for the three thick and thin lines, respectively') is hard to follow; please state explicitly which curve corresponds to which slope and which estimator.

The paper says, at Section 4, Eq. (11)

Pith says: minor objection 4 of 7

The text says 'the four independent coefficients' but lists five entries (a00, a02=a20, a22, b22); clarify that a02 and a20 are equal and that the independent set is four.

The paper says, at Section 4, after Eq. (11)

Pith says: minor objection 5 of 7

The statement that the expansion 'becomes (double) orthogonal' after lifting the φ1 ≤ φ2 restriction should specify the domain and the weight used for the orthogonality integral.

The paper says, at Section 2 and Conclusions

Pith says: minor objection 6 of 7

The paper acknowledges neglect of the selection-function gradient and the rocket effect but does not estimate their magnitude at the separations of interest; a brief quantitative remark would help the reader judge the range of validity of Eqs. (6), (11), and (13).

The paper says, at Section 2, notation

Pith says: minor objection 7 of 7

Clm is defined as √(4π/(2l+1)) Ylm, but the text also uses Ylm directly; a sentence reconciling the two conventions would help the reader follow the derivation of Eq. (5).

What would settle it

Generate a linear-theory correlation function on coplanar configurations (x_1, x_2, x all in one plane), expand it in the S_{l1l2l3} functions, and check whether the five B's are recoverable from coplanar data alone. If the B's are not recoverable without assuming the full 3-sphere extension, the claim that they are a 'natural basis for maximum likelihood estimation' is overstated and the practical route must go through Eq. 11.

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Short version: the algebra checks out and the trigonometric expansion in Eq. 11 is the real contribution. The framing around the B coefficients claims more than the data can deliver, but that is a presentation problem, not a math problem, and the paper itself points to Eq. 11 as the practical route. Worth a referee's time; not a desk reject and not a landmark either. It is a clean theory note in a narrow subfield, and it says so in its own conclusion (theory only, no data, practical issues deferred). The classifier's 'no limitations found' is wrong on the text: Section 2 explicitly drops the selection-function gradient and the rocket effect, and Section 5 is candid about sky coverage and noise. Credit where due — the author is not hiding anything. What is actually new: the zero-total-angular-momentum tripolar expansion, the demonstration that only five B's survive (Eq. 6), and the two-angle trigonometric form (Eq. 11). The plane-parallel cross-check against Kaiser and Hamilton in Eq. 10 is the right kind of validation, and the equivalence to Szalay et al. (1998) in Eq. 13 is a real consistency check, not a hand-wave. Where it is soft: the stress-test concern lands. The B's are deterministic functions of separation given P(k) and f, not stochastic quantities estimated from a map, and the orthogonality in Eq. 7 needs the full 3-sphere while the physical correlation function lives on coplanar triples. Property (vi) extends the domain by flipping x2, but that stays inside the coplanar set. So 'analogous to the Cl's' and 'a natural basis for maximum likelihood estimation' are overstated; the honest object for estimation is Eq. 11, which the paper does present. Two smaller things: the inversion of Eq. 11 is withheld (the author says it is a fourth-order polynomial in f and too messy to print — fair, but a reader wanting to use this will have to redo it), and the typo correction to Szalay et al. (4/15 to 8/15) is asserted rather than shown. Also, the text cites 'Figure 3' when only one figure exists — cosmetic. Who should read it: anyone doing wide-angle RSD or building a KL/maximum-likelihood pipeline for a wide survey, and anyone who wants the Szalay et al. result rederived from symmetry instead of brute force. Recommendation: send it out. Ask the referee to press on the Cl analogy and to request the Eq. 11 inversion coefficients, or at least a Mathematica notebook.

The strongest objection

The paper's central claim is the tripolar expansion and the five non-zero B's (Eq. 6). I checked this algebra and it holds: the F_0, F_2 structure of Eq. 2 yields exactly B000, B220, B022=B202, B222, B224, and the plane-parallel limit of Eq. 11 does reduce to Eq. 10 (I verified the constant, mu^2, and mu^4 terms). The concern is not with the derivation but with the interpretation. The paper says the B's are 'analogous to the C_l's of the angular power spectrum' and 'form a natural basis for maximum likelihood estimation' (Section 2, after Eq. 6). But the C_l's are stochastic quantities estimated from a full-sky map, whereas the B's here are deterministic functions of x given P(k) and f. More importantly, the orthogonality in Eq. 7 requires integrating over the full 3-sphere dOmega_1 dOmega_2 dOmega_3, while the physical correlation function is only defined on coplanar triples (property iv). The paper's property (vi) extends the domain by flipping x_2, but this only extends within the coplanar set; it does not make the physical data cover the full 3-sphere. So the B's are not directly estimable from the data in the way C_l's are. The paper's practical route is the 2D trigonometric expansion (Eq. 11), which is orthogonal on the 2D domain and is the right object for inversion. The claim that the B's themselves are a 'natural basis for maximum likelihood estimation' is therefore somewhat overstated, though the paper does present Eq. 11 as the practical inversion route, so this is a presentational issue rather than a correctness error.

The paper's algebra is correct. I verified the five non-zero B's in Eq. 6 and the plane-parallel limit of Eq. 11, which does reduce to Eq. 10. The reader's weakest assumption (linear theory, neglect of selection function gradient and rocket effect) is an acknowledged limitation stated explicitly in Section 2, so it is not a new finding and is somewhat misdirected for a theory paper that explicitly frames itself as linear theory. The most load-bearing concern is the interpretation of the B's as analogous to C_l's and as a natural basis for maximum likelihood estimation, which is overstated because the B's are deterministic functions of x and the orthogonality in Eq. 7 is over the full 3-sphere, while the physical data only covers coplanar configurations. However, the paper does present Eq. 11 as the practical inversion route, so this is a presentational issue rather than a correctness error. The reader's CONDITIONAL verdict is reasonable, but the specific red flags the reader cites (withheld inversion, asserted typo correction, missing figure) are secondary: the inversion is a fourth-order polynomial that the paper honestly says is too complicated to list, the typo correction is a cross-check claim that does not affect the paper's own derivation, and the figure does appear (the text says 'Figure 3' but the figure is labeled 'FIG. 1', a minor numbering typo). I would leave the verdict unchanged.

The referee's report

If correct, the result gives a compact, orthogonal, finite basis for wide-angle redshift distortions, with the plane-parallel limit recovered and cross-checks against three independent published results (Kaiser 1987, Hamilton 1993, Szalay et al. 1998). The trigonometric expansion of Eq. (11) is a genuinely compact and invertible expression, and the reduction to five non-zero B's is a real simplification over the formally infinite expansions used elsewhere. The paper is a theory paper with no data application, which is appropriate for the journal; the main strengths are the clean angular-momentum derivation and the explicit cross-checks against published limits.

Pith's reading of the paper (a machine's summary, not the authors')

Galaxy surveys that span a wide angle on the sky see peculiar velocities distort the two-point correlation function in a way that depends on two lines of sight and the separation between the pair, not just on the angle to a single line of sight. Szapudi asks whether that three-direction angular dependence can be organized by symmetry instead of by an infinite series, and argues that the natural basis is the zero-total-angular-momentum tripolar spherical harmonics $S_{l_1l_2l_3}(x_1,x_2,x)$. Rotational invariance forces total angular momentum $L=0$, and the quadratic structure of linear redshift distortions then leaves only five non-zero coefficients $B_{l_1l_2l_3}$, each a function of pair separation alone and built from spherical Bessel moments $xi_ell(x)$ of the linear power spectrum together with $f=Omega^{0.6}/b$. If this is right, a wide-angle distortion analysis becomes a small orthogonal fitting problem with a handful of invertible coefficients, and the standard distant-observer result of Kaiser and Hamilton is recovered as the limit where the two lines of sight coincide.

What carries the argument. The carrier is the family $S_{l_1l_2l_3}(hat{x}_1,hat{x}_2,hat{x})$, defined by contracting three normalized spherical harmonics with a Wigner 3j symbol of zero lower row. These functions are a subset of the tripolar spherical harmonics and form a complete orthogonal basis for spherically symmetric functions of three unit vectors; the paper gives the normalization explicitly, with the integral of $S_{l_1l_2l_3}S_{j_1j_2j_3}$ over all three spheres equal to $delta_{l_1j_1}delta_{l_2j_2}delta_{l_3j_3}(4pi)^{3/2}/sqrt{(2l_1+1)(2l_2+1)(2l_3+1)}$. Two structural facts do the work: the plane-parallel reduction $S_{l_1l_2l_3}(hat{x}_1,hat{x}_1,hat{x})=binom{l_1 l_2 l_3}{0 0 0}P_{l_3}(hat{x}_1cdothat{x})$, which is what makes contact with Kaiser and Hamilton, and the vanishing of every $S$ with a single zero index except the $S_{0ll}$, $S_{l0l}$, $S_{ll0}$ family, which is what prunes the expansion to five terms. The Gaunt integral, the Rayleigh expansion of the plane wave, and the addition theorem for Legendre polynomials are the three standard identities that carry the algebra from Eq. 2 to Eq. 6.

Core claim. The paper's central claim is that the redshift-space two-point correlation function, written in linear theory as a sum of a monopole term plus two cross terms plus a quadrupole-squared term, expands in zero-angular-momentum tripolar harmonics with only five non-zero coefficients: $B_{000}=(1+frac{1}{3}f)^2xi_0$, $B_{220}=frac{4}{9sqrt{5}}f^2xi_0$, $B_{022}=B_{202}=-(frac{2}{3}f+frac{2}{9}f^2)sqrt{5}xi_2$, $B_{222}=frac{4sqrt{10}}{9sqrt{7}}f^2xi_2$, and $B_{224}=frac{4sqrt{2}}{sqrt{35}}f^2xi_4$. Because the three unit vectors are coplanar, the angular dependence can be parametrized by two angles, and the author uses that freedom to write two equivalent forms: a trigonometric polynomial in two angles (Eq. 11) with four independent amplitudes $a_{00},a_{02}=a_{20},a_{22},b_{22}$, which he calls the most compact expression of wide-angle distortions; and a double Legendre expansion (Eq. 13) in the variables of Szalay et al., which he shows reproduces their result once a typographical factor $4/15$ is corrected to $8/15$. Setting the two lines of sight parallel returns the Kaiser-Hamilton expression $(1+frac{2}{3}f+frac{1}{5}f^2)xi_0-(frac{4}{3}f+frac{4}{7}f^2)xi_2P_2+frac{8}{35}f^2xi_4P_4$.

The premise it rests on. The whole construction starts from linear theory: the Jacobian is truncated at first order in the velocity divergence, and the gradient of the selection function and the rocket effect are explicitly dropped, so the five coefficients describe the correlation function only where velocities are linear and the survey selection is locally uniform.

If the paper is right (Pith's inferences, not the authors')

Wide-angle redshift distortion measurements can be turned into a maximum-likelihood fit for five separation-dependent coefficients rather than an infinite angular series, with the $C_ell$-like $B_{l_1l_2l_3}$ playing the role of the summary statistics.

Because the basis functions are orthogonal over the full sphere, the coefficients of the trigonometric expansion (Eq. 11) can be extracted by integration or by fit and inverted for $f$, $xi_0$, $xi_2$, and $xi_4$; the paper notes the inversion is a quartic in $f$ and better done numerically.

The double Legendre form (Eq. 13) gives a direct, quantitative handle on how far a survey can open up before the plane-parallel approximation fails; the paper's Figure 1 puts that threshold near 15 to 20 degrees half-opening angle for common distortion estimators.

The same symmetry pruning should extend to higher-order statistics such as the three-point function and cumulant correlators, which the author defers to later work.

The five-coefficient structure suggests a practical diagnostic: any measured set of $B$'s that requires more than five non-zero terms at a given separation is signalling physics beyond linear theory, selection-function gradients, or survey geometry rather than a failure of the basis.

Because the coefficients separate into $f$-polynomials times $xi_ell(x)$, the ratio $B_{220}/B_{000}$ at small separations is nearly independent of the power spectrum shape, which is the kind of quantity that could be calibrated against mocks before being trusted on data.

The author's remark that the trigonometric form survives selection-function gradients while the Legendre form does not implies the two expansions are not interchangeable in practice; a survey analysis should pick the trigonometric route if the radial selection varies appreciably across the pair.

The paper is purely theoretical and presents no measurement; the natural next test is to run the five-coefficient fit on existing wide-angle catalogues and check that the recovered $f$ agrees with the plane-parallel estimate once the opening angle is restricted.

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We explore linear redshift distortions in wide angle surveys from the point of view of symmetries. We show that the redshift space two-point correlation function can be expanded into tripolar spherical harmonics of zero total angular momentum Sl1l2l3(x̂1,x̂2,x̂). The coefficients of the expansion Bl1l2l3 are analogous to the Cl's of the angular power spectrum, and express the anisotropy of the redshift space correlation function. Moreover, only a handful of Bl1l2l3 are non-zero: the resulting formulae reveal a hidden simplicity comparable to distant observer limit. The Bl1l2l3 depend on spherical Bessel moments of the power spectrum and f = Ω0.6/b. In the plane parallel limit, the results of i̧teKaiser1987 and i̧teHamilton1993 are recovered. The general formalism is used to derive useful new expressions. We present a particularly simple trigonometric polynomial expansion, which is arguably the most compact expression of wide angle redshift distortions. These formulae are suitable to inversion due to the orthogonality of the basis functions. An alternative Legendre polynomial expansion was obtained as well. This can be shown to be equivalent to the results of i̧teSzalayEtal1998. The simplicity of the underlying theory will admit similar calculations for higher order statistics as well.

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“Moreover, only a handful of $B_{l_1 l_2 l_3}$ are non-zero: the resulting formulae reveal a hidden simplicity comparable to distant observer limit.”

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We explore linear redshift distortions in wide angle surveys from the point of view of symmetries. contribution 0.92 0.87 0.06 asserted 0.81
We show that the redshift space two-point correlation function can be expanded into tripolar spherical harmonics of zero total angular momentum $S_{l_1 l_2 l_3}(\hat x_1, \hat x_2, \hat x)$. result 0.64 0.94 0.26 asserted 1.00
The coefficients of the expansion $B_{l_1 l_2 l_3}$ are analogous to the $C_l$'s of the angular power spectrum, and express the anisotropy of the redshift space correlation function. interpretation 0.51 0.79 0.14 asserted 1.00
Moreover, only a handful of $B_{l_1 l_2 l_3}$ are non-zero: the resulting formulae reveal a hidden simplicity comparable to distant observer limit. result 0.70 0.93 0.37 asserted 0.99
The $B_{l_1 l_2 l_3}$ depend on spherical Bessel moments of the power spectrum and $f = \Omega^{0.6}/b$. result 0.87 0.81 0.07 asserted 1.00
In the plane parallel limit, the results of \cite{Kaiser1987} and \cite{Hamilton1993} are recovered. result 0.88 0.55 0.07 asserted 1.00
The general formalism is used to derive useful new expressions. contribution 0.86 0.88 0.07 asserted 0.99
We present a particularly simple trigonometric polynomial expansion, which is arguably the most compact expression of wide angle redshift distortions. contribution 0.75 0.95 0.35 asserted 0.58
These formulae are suitable to inversion due to the orthogonality of the basis functions. interpretation 0.79 0.79 0.08 asserted 0.90
An alternative Legendre polynomial expansion was obtained as well. contribution 0.64 0.90 0.05 asserted 0.99
This can be shown to be equivalent to the results of \cite{SzalayEtal1998}. result 0.72 0.69 0.05 asserted 0.96
The simplicity of the underlying theory will admit similar calculations for higher order statistics as well. interpretation 0.52 0.31 0.14 hedged possibility 0.73

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  • A theoretically complete solution requires a full-sky analysis, using the 2-point correlation function or its angular harmonic (or spherical Fourier-Bessel) transform and including all wide-angle and relativistic contributions [ref] .[See e.g. [ref] for earlier work on general wide-angle correlations, without including relativistic effects.] However this is computationally very intensive and a simpler approach is the approximate inclusion of leading-order wide-angle corrections to the plane-parallel limit (see e.g. [ref] ).

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