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Quantum Gravity and Regge Calculus

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Giorgio Immirzi

General Relativity and Quantum Cosmology · Submitted 23 Jan 1997 · 21 references

Pith's verdict: A useful, honest 1997 review: right that the area gap's scale is unpredicted, overstated in calling that a flaw in the derivation of discreteness itself.

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CitationGiorgio Immirzi. "Quantum Gravity and Regge Calculus." arXiv:gr-qc/9701052 (1997). https://pith.science/paper/67BIX2QF
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The claim that space is grainy rests on a free parameter that nobody has fixed

The reading

Canonical quantum gravity, in the loop-and-spin-network form, reports that area and volume come in discrete steps. This review argues that those steps are not yet a prediction, because every eigenvalue carries a multiplicative factor of a free number $β$ — the parameter labelling the family of connections $A^{(β)}_{ia} = Γ_{ia} + β K_{ia}$ that generalizes Ashtekar's self-dual connection. Nothing in the kinematics picks a value of $β$; $β = i$ is geometrically natural but makes the operators non-Hermitian, and $β = 1$ is merely convenient. The author's second thread is that Regge calculus, which makes the geometry of general relativity explicit in terms of triangle areas and defect angles, shows how thin the contact is between the quantum variables and actual geometry. The conclusion is a challenge rather than a refutation: the discreteness result stays uninterpretable until the dynamics, or a larger symmetry, fixes the scale.

What carries the argument

The carrier of the argument is the one-parameter family of canonical variables $(E^{ia}, A^{(β)}_{ia} = Γ_{ia} + β K_{ia})$, where $Γ$ is the Levi-Civita connection of the spatial slice and $K$ the extrinsic curvature. Because the change from $(E, K)$ to $(E, A^{(β)})$ is a canonical transformation for any real $β$, the Poisson bracket carries $β$ as an overall factor and every kinematic quantity inherits it. The author pairs this with a Regge-calculus discretization in which the natural variables are oriented triangle areas $S_i$ and group elements $g_{AB}$ linking neighbouring tetrahedra, with brackets ${S_i, S_j} = β κ ε_{ijk} S_k$ and ${g, S_i} = β κ τ_i g$; the extrinsic curvature enters only by making the dihedral angles $Φ$ of the gluing free rather than fixed by edge lengths, and the Ashtekar version replaces $Φ$ by $Φ + iζ$, promoting $g_{AB}$ to a Lorentz transformation. That dictionary is what lets the author say precisely where the geometric content is lost: the dynamics is squeezed into an angle that Regge calculus would otherwise compute.

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Core claim

The paper's central claim is that the discrete area and volume spectra obtained in the connection representation cannot be read as evidence for a discrete structure of space, because the spectra are proportional to the Barbero–Immirzi parameter $β$. In the regularized area operator of eq. (20), a surface cut by net lines of spins $s_l$ gives eigenvalues $(β ħ κ) Σ_l √{s_l(s_l+1)}$, so the spacing of space is set by a number the theory does not determine. The author calls this the '$β$ crisis': unless some reason fixes $β$, the commutation relations ${A^{(β)}_{ia}(x), E^{jb}(y)} = β κ δ^j_i δ^b_a δ(x,y)$ cannot fix the scale of the theory. He notes that the Ashtekar choice $β = i$ is the one with a clean geometric reading — it is the pull-back of the self-dual connection — but that it destroys Hermiticity of the area and volume operators and gives $S^2$ negative eigenvalues, so the geometrically motivated version is the one that does not quantize cleanly. The suggested escape routes are a larger gauge group implementing the Wick rotation between the Barbero and Ashtekar connections, or a dynamics that admits solutions of the Wheeler–DeWitt equation only for particular $β$ — which the author calls 'rather likely' and, if true, would derive discreteness from dynamics rather than from a kinematic choice.

Load-bearing premise

The critique holds only if $β$ stays free after the full dynamics is imposed; if the Hamiltonian constraint or a consistency condition singles out one value, the scale of the area spectrum is fixed and the discreteness claim survives intact.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • If no dynamical or symmetry argument fixes $β$, the area and volume gaps are a one-parameter family of spectra rather than a physical prediction, and the Planck-scale discreteness claim loses its numerical content.
  • If the Hamiltonian constraint admits solutions only for isolated values of $β$, discreteness becomes a derived consequence of the dynamics, with the spacing fixed rather than chosen.
  • A successful Wick rotation from $SU(2)$ to $SL(2,\mathbb{C})$ would let the geometrically meaningful self-dual connection be used without sacrificing Hermiticity of the area and volume operators.
  • On a Regge lattice the check is concrete: quantize a small triangulation such as a five-tetrahedron division of $S^3$, where the area variable is conjugate to a dihedral angle, and see whether the spectrum closes up to a single scale.
  • The mismatch between Thiemann's regularization, whose dual lattice puts vertices where Regge calculus puts tetrahedra, suggests that a more natural discretized Hamiltonian constraint should be available.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The $β$ dependence is a unit-conversion-like ambiguity: rescaling $β$ rescales the area gap, so any experiment that measures a smallest area would return a number for $β$ rather than test the discreteness itself.
  • If $β$ is fixed by requiring the Hamiltonian constraint to have solutions, the resulting value becomes a genuine prediction of the theory, comparable to a coupling constant derived rather than put in by hand.
  • The Regge-calculus dictionary suggests a numerical route: compute the spectrum on a fixed triangulation for several $β$ and look for a value at which the constraint algebra closes without anomalies.
  • The Hermiticity failure at $β = i$ is a symptom that the self-dual connection and the real spatial metric are being forced into the same Hilbert space; a genuine fix likely requires the inner product to be chosen together with the reality conditions, not after them.
Original abstract

This is an informal review of the formulation of canonical general relativity and of its implications for quantum gravity; the various versions are compared, both in the continuum and in a discretized approximation suggested by Regge calculus. I also show that the weakness of the link with the geometric content of the theory gives rise to what I think is a serious flaw in the claimed derivation of a discrete structure for space at the quantum level.

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This is an informal review of the formulation of canonical general relativity and of its implications for quantum gravity; the various versions are compared, both in the continuum and in a discretized approximation suggested by Regge calculus. I also show that the weakness of the link with the geometric content of the theory gives rise to what I think is a serious flaw in the claimed derivation of a discrete structure for space at the quantum level.

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65 arXiv papers cite this in 69 sentences

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  • Note that similar derivation has been done recently in the series of papers [ref] [ref] , but with a real Barbero-Immirzi parameter $γ$ [ref] [ref] .

    The Cosmological Constant: A Categorical View · Cosmological Constant · 0.93

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  • In the model of loop quantum gravity (LQG) based on Ashtekar variables [ref] (see also Refs. [ref] ) this condition has allowed to find the Barbero-Immirzi parameter $γ$ [ref] to which the spectrum turns out to be proportional, for a simplified choice of the form of spectrum of the horizon area compared to the spectrum of the generic surface area.

    Spectrum of area in the Faddeev formulation of gravity · Introduction · 0.88

  • The first, championed by Giorgio Immirzi [ref] , is to (“loop") quantize GR by first discretizing it on a Regge-like triangulation, with appropriately chosen variables.

    LQG vertex with finite Immirzi parameter · Introduction · 0.94

  • This elegant result has played an instrumental role in driving the geometrical intuition of spin foam models, and establishing Regge calculus as a semiclassical tool [ref] .

    Asymptotics of lowest unitary SL(2,C) invariants on graphs · Introduction · 0.82

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