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More Visible Effects of the Hidden Sector

High Energy Physics - Phenomenology · Submitted 6 Sep 2007 · 26 references

Pith's verdict: A clean correction to a published claim about conformal sequestering, with honest caveats about what cannot be computed.

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CitationDavid Poland, Hitoshi Murayama, Yasunori Nomura. "More Visible Effects of the Hidden Sector." arXiv:0709.0775 (2007). https://pith.science/paper/K4OX6R5N
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The paper claims

Strong conformal dynamics in a hidden sector suppresses gaugino masses relative to the gravitino mass, and the authors argue this reshapes how supersymmetry breaking reaches the visible world.

The reading

Supersymmetry at the TeV scale needs a hidden sector that breaks it and a mediation mechanism that carries the breaking to the visible particles without spoiling flavor. The paper asks what happens when that hidden sector is not merely a passive source but a strongly interacting, nearly conformal theory that keeps running between the mediation scale and the scale where its fields decouple. The authors argue that operators linear in a hidden-sector gauge singlet $S$ — the ones that generate gaugino masses, the $A$ terms, and the $B$ term — are not renormalized by any 1PI diagram, so they feel only the wavefunction renormalization $Z_S^{-1/2}$. Because unitarity forces the $R$ charge of a gauge-singlet chiral superfield above $2/3$, $Z_S$ grows in the infrared and this suppression is guaranteed rather than accidental. The payoff is a gaugino mass below the gravitino mass, which changes which mediation mechanism wins and, in the gauge-mediation case, can make the stubborn $B$ problem tractable.

What carries the argument

The load-bearing object is the wavefunction renormalization factor $Z_S$ of the singlet, fixed in the superconformal limit by the $R$ charge: $Z_S(μ_R) = (Λ_*/μ_R)^{3R(S)-2}$. Two ingredients make it bite. First, the absence of 1PI renormalization of operators linear in $S$, which is what reduces their running to $Z_S^{-1/2}$ and makes the suppression exact and universal across $O_λ$, $O_A$, and $O_μ$. Second, the unitarity bound $R(S) > 2/3$ for gauge-singlet chiral superfields, which pins the sign of the exponent so the factor always grows toward the infrared. Operators quadratic in $S$, by contrast, do receive 1PI corrections and mix with each other; their suppression is governed by the smallest eigenvalue of $2γ_iδ_{ij} + α_{ij}$, an exponent the authors stress is incalculable in strong coupling. That calculable-versus-incalculable split is what lets the paper say the relative strengths among linear operators are fixed while the linear-versus-quadratic competition is not, producing the three cases.

Extended reading notes

Core claim

The paper's central claim is that operators linear in a hidden-sector singlet $S$ are sequestered relative to the gravitino mass, contrary to what the authors of Ref. [11] stated. Since no 1PI diagrams renormalize $O_λ$, $O_A$, or $O_μ$, these operators pick up only the wavefunction factor $Z_S^{-1/2}(μ_R)$. The superconformal algebra requires an $R$ charge $R(S) > 2/3$ for a gauge singlet, so $Z_S(μ_R) = (Λ_*/μ_R)^{3R(S)-2} > 1$, and the suppression is automatic in the infrared. The singlet's $F$ term is suppressed by the same factor, so the gravitino mass $m_{3/2} ≈ Z_S^{-1/2}|f|^2/M_{Pl}$ carries one factor while the gaugino mass $|M_a| ≈ Z_S^{-1}|c_{Sλ} f^2|/M$ carries two, giving $M_a/m_{3/2} ∼ Z_S^{-1/2}$. The same reasoning applies to $μ$ and the $A$ terms. The authors then sort the outcomes into three cases: linear-operator dominance, in which scalars are driven to cancel against the linear contributions leaving $m^2_I = 0$, $m^2_{H_u,d} = -μ^2$, $B = 0$ and $M_a ≈ μ ≈ A_I$; quadratic-operator dominance, in which scalars and $B_μ$ sit far above gauginos and $μ$; and anomaly-mediation dominance when both are suppressed enough.

Load-bearing premise

The whole result rests on taking the wavefunction factor to be the superconformal R-charge expression $Z_S = (Λ_*/μ)^{3R-2}$, which assumes the hidden sector sits at an infrared-attractive fixed point and that the relevant operators breaking supersymmetry do not anomalously enhance that factor — a caveat the authors themselves raise in section 7.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Anomaly mediation no longer needs the hidden sector to be singlet-free: the gaugino and $A$-term operators built from singlets are sequestered, so the anomaly-mediated piece can dominate even when singlets with $F$-term vacuum expectation values are present.
  • In gauge mediation, if the linear operators dominate, the spectrum at the conformal exit scale has vanishing scalar masses, $m^2_{H_u,d} = -μ^2$, $B = 0$ and $M_a ≈ μ ≈ A$, which after standard-model running solves the $μ$($Bμ$) problem while keeping gauge coupling unification perturbative.
  • If the quadratic operators dominate instead, the spectrum looks like gauge mediation with a fractional number of messengers $N_{mess} < 1$, with gaugino masses suppressed relative to scalars but their relative ratios unchanged.
  • In gaugino mediation, the volume suppression that gives $B ≈ 16π^2 M_a$ can be undone by the same conformal mechanism, provided the conformal running distance $Λ_*/m_X$ is not too large.
  • The gravity-mediated contribution can be either more harmless (when the quadratic exponent $\hat{α}_S > 0$) or more harmful (when $\hat{α}_S < 0$) than in a theory without the conformal dynamics, so the sequestering cuts both ways depending on incalculable signs.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same R-charge argument should apply to any gauge-singlet operator linear in a hidden field, not only the ones catalogued here, which suggests a general bookkeeping rule: an operator's suppression is set by how many powers of the singlet wavefunction it carries.
  • Because $R(S) > 2/3$ is a unitarity bound rather than a dynamical accident, the sign of the effect is one of the few things in this class of models that a lattice or dual-description calculation could in principle confirm without resolving the full strong dynamics.
  • If the linear-operator case is realized, the prediction $m^2_{H_u} = m^2_{H_d} = -μ^2$ with $B = 0$ at the conformal exit scale is sharp enough to be checked against the measured Higgs mass and stop spectrum once superpartners are seen.
  • The paper's own caveat about higher-dimension operators being anomalously enhanced suggests a natural stress test: find a dual description where a cubic or quartic operator in the singlet grows enough to compete with the linear ones, which would erase the predicted gaugino suppression.
Original abstract

There is a growing appreciation that hidden sector dynamics may affect the supersymmetry breaking parameters in the visible sector (supersymmetric standard model), especially when the dynamics is strong and superconformal. We point out that there are effects that have not been previously discussed in the literature. For example, the gaugino masses are suppressed relative to the gravitino mass. We discuss their implications in the context of various mediation mechanisms. The issues discussed include anomaly mediation with singlets, the mu (B mu) problem in gauge and gaugino mediation, and distinct mass spectra for the superparticles that have not been previously considered.

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There is a growing appreciation that hidden sector dynamics may affect the supersymmetry breaking parameters in the visible sector (supersymmetric standard model), especially when the dynamics is strong and superconformal. We point out that there are effects that have not been previously discussed in the literature. For example, the gaugino masses are suppressed relative to the gravitino mass. We discuss their implications in the context of various mediation mechanisms. The issues discussed include anomaly mediation with singlets, the mu (B mu) problem in gauge and gaugino mediation, and distinct mass spectra for the superparticles that have not been previously considered.

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s1 We point out that there are effects that have not been previously discussed in the literature. gap 0.68 0.77 0.14 asserted 1.00
s2 For example, the gaugino masses are suppressed relative to the gravitino mass. result 0.96 0.66 0.37 asserted 1.00
s3 We discuss their implications in the context of various mediation mechanisms. contribution 0.92 0.81 0.06 asserted 0.67
s4 The issues discussed include anomaly mediation with singlets, the mu (B mu) problem in gauge and gaugino mediation, and distinct mass spectra for the superparticles that have not been previously considered. contribution 0.96 0.55 0.16 asserted 0.89

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49 later papers cite it

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Papers citing it · 64 sentences without a confident label

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Compares with it 3 papers
  • The squark and slepton mass spectrum of scalar sequestering resembles that of gaugino mediation [ref] [ref] , however as was pointed out in [ref] there are important differences for the Higgs sector.

    Phenomenology of SUSY with scalar sequestering · Introduction · 0.80

  • As reviewed in the introduction, this is in contrast to the generation of $μ$ by Giudice-Masiero type 1-loop Kähler potential couplings in gauge mediation, where the $16 π^2$ discrepancy to the $B μ$ term is generic [ref] and avoidable only with extra effort [ref] .

    Retrofitting and the mu Problem · The general idea · 0.85

  • Note added: During completion of the manuscript we learned that Murayama, Nomura and Poland are developing a similar solution to the $μ/B_μ$ problem [ref] .

    A hidden solution to the mu/B_mu problem in gauge mediation · Introduction · 0.84

Cites it as support 1 paper
Cites it as background 15 papers

What it cites · 21 sentences without a confident label

Contests 2 papers
  • Note that the authors of Ref. [ref] stated that these operators are not sequestered, which we do not agree with.

    Visible Effects of the Hidden Sector · Introduction · contest 0.87

  • They claim to obtain a spectrum identical to minimal gaugino mediation [ref] , while we find that finite $A$ terms and Higgs soft masses that cancel the $μ^2$ mass contribution are generic.

    Minimal Gaugino Mediation · Note Added · contest 0.79

Cites as background 7 papers
  • One of the most drastic examples of hidden sector dynamics is conformal sequestering [ref] , which occurs when the hidden sector exhibits strong superconformal dynamics.

    Supersymmetry Breaking and Composite Extra Dimensions · Introduction · 0.95

  • Anomaly mediation of supersymmetry breaking [ref] is a subtle quantum effect in which the soft supersymmetry breaking parameters are induced due to the superconformal anomaly.

    Out Of This World Supersymmetry Breaking · Anomaly Mediation · 1.00

  • Anomaly mediation of supersymmetry breaking [ref] is a subtle quantum effect in which the soft supersymmetry breaking parameters are induced due to the superconformal anomaly.

    Gaugino Mass without Singlets · Anomaly Mediation · 1.00

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