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First ab initio lattice calculation of proton-rich tin isotopes reproduces binding energies to ~1 percent for even–even nuclei after a small three-nucleon-force adjustment, and confirms the N=50 shell closure in 100Sn.

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load-bearing objection First NLEFT run near 100Sn is genuinely new and honestly presented, but the central 3N retuning is underdocumented and the odd-A error bars are large. the 3 major comments →

arxiv 2509.08579 v1 pith:GWHY73A6 submitted 2025-09-10 nucl-th hep-lathep-phnucl-ex

Lattice calculation of the Sn isotopes near the proton dripline

classification nucl-th hep-lathep-phnucl-ex PACS 21.10.Dr21.30.Fe21.60.De24.10.Cn
keywords nuclear lattice effective field theorytin isotopesproton driplinethree-nucleon forcesshell closurebinding energiessign problemab initio nuclear structure
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The paper reports the first ab initio lattice calculation of the proton-rich tin isotopes 99Sn–102Sn. Using nuclear lattice effective field theory with high-fidelity chiral two- and three-nucleon forces, the authors compute ground-state binding energies in a mass region previously out of reach for this method. With three-nucleon couplings fixed from lighter nuclei, the binding energies come out systematically underbound by about 5%; after a percent-level adjustment of two three-nucleon couplings, the even–even isotopes match experiment to about 1%, and the odd isotopes plus two-neutron separation energies agree within uncertainties. The results confirm the N=50 shell closure at 100Sn and indicate that 99Sn is less bound than extrapolations from heavier isotopes. If correct, this opens an ab initio lattice route across the medium-mass nuclear chart and sharpens the empirical role of three-nucleon forces in proton-rich systems.

Core claim

The authors report the first ab initio lattice calculation of 99Sn–102Sn, using nuclear lattice effective field theory with nonlocally regulated chiral N3LO two-nucleon forces and locally smeared three-nucleon forces, together with wavefunction matching and Galilean-invariance restoration. With the original three-nucleon couplings, the four isotopes are underbound by about 5% relative to experiment. Adjusting two SU(4)-symmetric three-nucleon couplings at the percent level reproduces the experimental binding energy of 100Sn, and without further tuning brings 99Sn, 101Sn, and 102Sn into agreement with experiment: even–even binding energies to about 1%, and energy splittings and two-neutron se

What carries the argument

The central computational object is Euclidean-time projection on a four-dimensional lattice with spatial volume L=12 lattice units (lattice spacing 1.32 fm, box length 15.84 fm) and up to L_t=1600 time steps. The sign problem is suppressed by evolving with a simplified SU(4)-symmetric Hamiltonian H_s and treating the difference from the full chiral Hamiltonian perturbatively via wavefunction matching. Ground-state energies are extracted by extrapolating operator expectation values to infinite Euclidean time with a double-exponential ansatz, <O(τ)> = <O(∞)> + a exp(-ΔE τ) + b exp(-ΔE τ/2), where a single decay parameter ΔE is shared among all operators. For odd-A nuclei the average complex ph

Load-bearing premise

The ground-state energies rest on the assumption that every operator expectation value decays to its infinite-time limit as a sum of just two exponentials sharing a single decay rate; if the true finite-time correction is different for the odd-A systems, where the signal is only controllable to about 1000 time steps, the quoted central values shift.

What would settle it

Extend the odd-A lattice runs (99Sn and 101Sn) beyond L_t≈1000 on the same lattice and check whether the energies extracted with the double-exponential ansatz remain stable against a three-exponential fit or a direct ratio-method extraction; a shift larger than the quoted ~8–10 MeV uncertainty would indicate the N3LO* agreement is an artifact of the extrapolation. A direct high-precision mass measurement of 99Sn would also discriminate, since the N3LO* prediction (804±8 MeV) sits below the AME2020 extrapolation (807.9±0.6 MeV).

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If this is right

  • Binding energies of even–even tin isotopes near the proton dripline can be computed from first principles to about 1% with high-fidelity chiral forces.
  • A percent-level retuning of two three-nucleon couplings, originally motivated by alpha-cluster EFT, is sufficient to bring 99–102Sn into agreement with experiment while preserving the description of lighter nuclei used in the original fit.
  • The N=50 shell closure at 100Sn is reproduced in an ab initio lattice framework, consistent with earlier coupled-cluster predictions.
  • Mass differences and two-neutron separation energies in this region are captured within uncertainties, indicating that differential observables are less sensitive to three-nucleon calibration than absolute binding energies.
  • The same machinery can be extended to the whole tin isotopic chain and to excited states, charge radii, beta decays, and collective excitations, as the authors state as future work.

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These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Editorial inference: A direct high-precision mass measurement of 99Sn would provide a sharp test: the N3LO* prediction (804±8 MeV) lies about 4 MeV below the AME2020 extrapolated value (807.9±0.6 MeV), within the combined uncertainty but in a direction that would confirm the paper's claim of a local mass-surface anomaly.
  • Editorial inference: If the systematic underbinding pattern holds for other heavy proton-rich nuclei, refitting three-nucleon LECs with A≈100 data could shift predicted charge radii and neutron skins elsewhere, which are currently open experimental questions.
  • Editorial inference: The shared-ΔE double-exponential extrapolation could be stress-tested by comparing with an alternative extraction (for example, a three-exponential form or a direct transfer-matrix eigenvalue analysis) around L_t≈1000, where the odd-A phase signal is weakest.
  • Editorial inference: The apparent need for a small enhancement of alpha-cluster-motivated 3N operators in this mass region raises the question of whether those operator forms remain the right degrees of freedom for heavier nuclei or whether additional three-nucleon structures are needed.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

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Summary. This paper presents the first nuclear lattice effective field theory (NLEFT) calculations of the proton-rich tin isotopes 99–102Sn using high-fidelity chiral N3LO two- and three-nucleon forces. Ground-state binding energies are computed via Euclidean time projection with wavefunction matching. The original N3LO Hamiltonian underbinds by about 5% relative to experiment; the authors then adjust two SU(4)-symmetric 3N couplings (V_cE^(l), V_cE^(t)) by a reported 'percent-level' amount to reproduce the 100Sn binding energy, calling the result N3LO*. With this recalibration, they report that 99Sn, 101Sn, and 102Sn binding energies, the 100Sn–99Sn splitting, and S_2n(102Sn) agree with experiment, confirming the N=50 shell closure and a 99Sn binding energy below values extrapolated from heavier isotopes.

Significance. If the claims hold, this is a notable step: it would extend NLEFT with high-fidelity chiral forces into the A≈100 proton-rich region and provide an ab initio confirmation of the doubly magic character of 100Sn. The strengths are the first-lattice-calculation status, the explicit reporting of the original underbinding, and the demonstration that the recalibration preserves the 4He and 40Ca binding energies. However, the central predictive claim is currently underdetermined because the numerical values of the adjusted 3N LECs are not given, and the odd-A extrapolation procedure is not validated beyond an assumed ansatz. The paper is therefore promising but not yet conclusive.

major comments (3)
  1. [Table I / Results] The N3LO* Hamiltonian is defined by adjusting two SU(4)-symmetric 3N couplings, V_cE^(l) and V_cE^(t), to reproduce the 100Sn binding energy, yet the numerical values of these adjusted LECs are never reported. The text only says a 'percent-level adjustment' was made. With two parameters fit to one observable, the retuning is generically underdetermined: a one-parameter family of (V_cE^(l), V_cE^(t)) pairs can reproduce B(100Sn) while still preserving the 4He and 40Ca shifts quoted. The claim that 99Sn, 101Sn, and 102Sn 'come into agreement without further tuning' is meaningful only if the results are insensitive to the choice inside this family or if the second parameter is fixed by an independent constraint. Neither is demonstrated. Please report the fitted LEC values and provide a sensitivity scan along the degeneracy for the observables in Tables I and II. Without this, the central pr
  2. [Eq. (2), Fig. 1] For the odd-A nuclei 99Sn and 101Sn, Fig. 1 shows that the average phase <e^{iθ}> decays rapidly beyond L_t ~ 1000. Consequently, the quoted ground-state energies for these nuclei rest almost entirely on the assumed double-exponential form of Eq. (2), <O(τ)> = <O(∞)> + a exp(-ΔE τ) + b exp(-ΔE τ/2), with a single shared ΔE. The text states that this form 'provides a good description for all operators,' but no fit-quality measure, no fit-range sensitivity, and no comparison with alternative extrapolations are given. Because the odd-A central values and the 101-100, 102-101, and 100-99 splittings in Table II depend on this ansatz, the systematic uncertainty from the extrapolation must be quantified. I request fits with different functional forms or truncated fit ranges, and ideally a plateau analysis for at least one odd-A nucleus.
  3. [Table II / Results] The statement that the N3LO* Hamiltonian 'reproduces two-neutron separation energies and nearest-neighbor splittings to within experimental uncertainties' is not supported as written. The theoretical uncertainties in Table II are 8.6-12.8 MeV, i.e., 10-30 times larger than the experimental uncertainties (0.3-0.7 MeV). The correct statement is that the central values are consistent with experiment within the much larger theoretical errors. This distinction matters for the abstract's 'in agreement with experiment' claim. Please revise the wording and discuss whether the present precision is sufficient to claim quantitative reproduction of mass differences rather than just consistency at the ~10 MeV level.
minor comments (5)
  1. [Abstract] Minor typo: 'ab initiolattice' should read 'ab initio lattice'.
  2. [Section heading] 'RESUL TS AND DISCUSSION' has an extraneous space; also the text inconsistently uses 'N3LO' and 'N 3LO'.
  3. [Table I] The experimental value for 99Sn is extrapolated (AME 2020). This is stated in the caption but should be emphasized in the main text, since the abstract's claim that the 99Sn binding energy lies 'below values extrapolated from heavier isotopes' is a comparison to an extrapolated benchmark rather than a direct measurement.
  4. [Eq. (2)] The parameter ΔE in the double-exponential ansatz is described only as a 'decay parameter.' Please define it more precisely (e.g., as an effective excitation energy of the dominant correction) and state whether the same value is used for all isotopes or fitted per isotope.
  5. [Figure 1] It would help to indicate whether the curves have error bars smaller than the symbol size, or to add shaded statistical bands, so the reader can judge the quality of the phase average.

Circularity Check

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100Sn binding-energy reproduction is a fitted input; 99,101,102Sn and mass differences retain independent predictive content.

specific steps
  1. fitted input called prediction [Results and Discussion, paragraph after Table I (and Table I, N3LO* row)]
    "To assess the role of three-nucleon forces, we performed controlled variations of two SU(4)-symmetric 3N couplings, V_cE^(l) and V_cE^(t), originally motivated by alpha-cluster EFT. With only a percent-level adjustment, we reproduce the experimental binding energy of 100Sn (denoted N 3LO* in Table I)."

    The N3LO* Hamiltonian used for all reported results is defined by adjusting two 3N LECs so that B(100Sn) matches the experimental value. Table I then presents N3LO* B(100Sn)=825.2(3.0) MeV versus 825.16(24) MeV as part of the claim 'we reproduce binding energies with ~1% accuracy for the even-even systems' in the abstract. That single datum is an input to the fit, so its reproduction is enforced by construction, not derived. The remaining isotopes and all Table II differences are genuine predictions and are largely stable between N3LO and N3LO* (differences shift by <0.5 MeV), so the circularity is partial. The paper does not quote the adjusted LEC values; with two parameters fit to one energy there is a degenerate family, but that is an underdetermination/reproducibility concern rather th

full rationale

The only load-bearing reduction by construction is the 100Sn binding energy. The authors explicitly retune two SU(4)-symmetric 3N couplings to reproduce B(100Sn), so the N3LO* entry for 100Sn in Table I is a fitted result, not an ab initio prediction. This affects the abstract's blanket statement about reproducing even-even binding energies. However, the main physics claims are not destroyed by this circularity: 99Sn, 101Sn, and 102Sn are computed after the retuning and agree with experiment, and the mass splittings and S2n values in Table II are nearly identical in the original N3LO and retuned N3LO* calculations, showing that the shell-closure and separation-energy statements derive from the many-body calculation rather than from the fit. The unmodified N3LO Hamiltonian is fit to np scattering and light/medium nuclei up to 40Ca, which are independent inputs; citations to the authors' own Ref. [24] for the method are standard methodology citations, not load-bearing self-citations. The double-exponential extrapolation (Eq. 2) is a modeling assumption but not circular. Score reflects the one constructed 'reproduction' (a 6, partial circularity), not a fully circular derivation.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

3 free parameters · 5 axioms · 0 invented entities

No new particles, forces, or conserved quantities are introduced. The N3LO* interaction is a retuning of existing 3N couplings, not a new entity. The main free inputs are the optimized SU(4) 2N coupling, the two adjusted 3N couplings defining N3LO*, and the parameters of the extrapolation ansatz; the latter two are not fully specified numerically.

free parameters (3)
  • C_s (SU(4) 2N coupling in H_s) = 0.42 x 10^-6 MeV^-2
    Optimized to minimize the 100Sn ground-state energy at Lt=500 (Methodology section) and held fixed for all isotopes; enters the wavefunction-matching evolution and therefore all extracted energies.
  • N3LO* 3N LEC adjustments (VcE^l, VcE^t) = percent-level, numerical values not quoted
    Two SU(4)-symmetric 3N couplings adjusted to reproduce the experimental binding energy of 100Sn (Results section); these define the N3LO* Hamiltonian whose energies are the central results.
  • Double-exponential fit parameters (a, b, DeltaE) = per-operator fit parameters
    Eq. (2), used to extrapolate operator expectation values from finite Euclidean time to tau -> infinity; DeltaE is shared among operators, and the resulting O(infinity) values feed all reported energies.
axioms (5)
  • domain assumption Chiral EFT at N3LO with the LECs of Ref. [24] provides a valid Hamiltonian at A≈100 after small 3N modifications
    The paper relies on the Hamiltonian from Ref. [24] fitted to NN scattering and light-to-medium nuclei (up to 40Ca); the transferability to A≈100 is assumed and then patched by the N3LO* fit (Methodology/Results sections).
  • domain assumption The wavefunction-matching perturbation of H - H_s converges
    The difference between the simplified SU(4) Hamiltonian H_s and the full chiral H is treated perturbatively (Methodology section, following Ref. [24]); no convergence check at A≈100 is given.
  • ad hoc to paper Double-exponential ansatz Eq. (2) correctly describes the tau-dependence of all operators
    The ground-state energies are obtained by extrapolating finite-Lt expectation values with the form <O(tau)> = <O(infinity)> + a exp(-DeltaE tau) + b exp(-DeltaE tau/2), with a shared DeltaE; this form is assumed, not derived, and controls the quoted central values (Methodology section).
  • domain assumption Experimental 99Sn mass from AME2020 is a valid benchmark despite being extrapolated
    The paper compares its 99Sn result against the extrapolated experimental value and uses it to claim reduced binding; the extrapolation uncertainty is not propagated into the comparison (Table I note).
  • domain assumption Lattice volume L=12 l.u. (15.84 fm) and spacing a=1.32 fm are sufficient for the chiral forces and suppress finite-volume effects
    The Methodology section states the box exceeds the phenomenological radius by more than a factor of two and cites Ref. [26] for confirmation; no direct finite-volume extrapolation is performed here.

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We present the first $\textit{ab initio}$ lattice calculations of the proton-rich tin isotopes $^{99}$Sn to $^{102}$Sn using nuclear lattice effective field theory with high-fidelity two- and three-nucleon forces. For a given set of three-nucleon couplings, we reproduce binding energies with $\sim 1\%$ accuracy for the even-even systems, and obtain energy splitting and two-nucleon separation energies in agreement with experiment. Our results confirm the $N=50$ shell closure and reveal that the binding energy of $^{99}$Sn lies below values extrapolated from heavier isotopes.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: The average phase ⟨e iθ⟩ as a function of time steps Lt. an SU(4) symmetric two-nucleon short-range interaction. The difference between Hs and the full chiral Hamilto￾nian H is treated perturbatively via wavefunction match￾ing method as detailed in Ref. [24]. This approach allows us to perform calculations using high-fidelity interactions with a reduced sign-problem. Simulations are carried out in a period… view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: Distribution of the obtained binding energies [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_2.png] view at source ↗

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