arxiv: 2603.11993 · v2 · submitted 2026-03-12 · ✦ hep-th

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More on Bulk Local State Reconstruction in Flat/Carr CFT

Peng-Xiang Hao , Kotaro Shinmyo , Yu-ki Suzuki , Shunta Takahashi

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keywords flat holographybulk reconstructioninduced representationAdS flat limitmassive propagatordual basistilde basisRiemann sum

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The flat limit of AdS bulk states yields the massive propagator when treated as a Riemann sum over the n ~ l scaling window.

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The paper extends the reconstruction of bulk local states in flat holography by deriving an induced representation from the flat limit of AdS highest-weight conditions. In three dimensions a dual basis removes a scaling mismatch between bra and ket states and reproduces the correct Green's function. In higher dimensions the states are built explicitly in both momentum and tilde bases. The central technical result is that the flat limit is non-uniform in descendant level, so a Riemann-sum treatment over the window where descendant level n is comparable to spin l converts the discrete sum into a continuum momentum representation that recovers the massive propagator. The tilde basis generalizes the construction to any dimension and differs from the three-dimensional flat basis only by a sign factor.

Core claim

The flat limit of the AdS_{d+1} construction for bulk local states is non-uniform in the descendant level. A Riemann-sum treatment over the scaling window n ∼ l converts the discrete descendant expansion into the continuum momentum representation and recovers the massive propagator. In three dimensions a dual basis resolves the bra-ket scaling mismatch, while the tilde basis provides a seamless generalization to arbitrary dimensions that is related to the three-dimensional flat basis by a sign factor.

What carries the argument

The induced representation obtained from the flat limit of the AdS highest-weight conditions, realized through a dual basis in three dimensions and a tilde basis in higher dimensions, which handles the non-uniform scaling and permits the Riemann-sum conversion to the continuum massive propagator.

If this is right

The construction reproduces the correct Green's function in three dimensions.
Bulk local states are obtained explicitly in both momentum and tilde bases for any dimension.
The same induced-representation framework applies uniformly across all dimensions.
The non-uniform flat limit plus Riemann summation explains how discrete descendant sums become continuum propagators.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

The same Riemann-sum treatment over scaling windows may appear in other holographic flat limits.
The sign factor relating the bases could point to an underlying symmetry of the flat-space algebra.
Checking consistency with higher-point correlators would provide an independent test of the states.
The approach could be extended to include interactions or other observables in flat holography.

Load-bearing premise

The induced representation coming from the flat limit of the AdS highest-weight conditions is the correct algebraic foundation for the flat-space theory and that the dual and tilde bases produce a smooth limit.

What would settle it

An explicit calculation of the two-point function from the reconstructed states that fails to match the known massive scalar propagator in flat space.

read the original abstract

We revisit and extend the construction of bulk local states in flat holography, focusing on the induced representation obtained from the flat limit of the AdS highest-weight conditions. In three dimensions we clarify the scaling mismatch between bra and ket states in the flat basis and resolve it by introducing a dual basis, which yields a smooth flat limit and reproduces the correct Green's function. For higher dimensions we construct bulk local states explicitly, both in the momentum basis and in an alternative tilde basis. The flat limit of the AdS$_{d+1}$ construction is shown to be non-uniform in the descendant level and the Riemann-sum treatment over the scaling window $n\sim l$ converts the discrete descendant expansion into the continuum momentum representation, recovering the massive propagator. The tilde basis generalizes seamlessly to any dimension and is related to the three-dimensional flat basis by a sign factor. These results establish the induced representation as the correct algebraic foundation for bulk reconstruction in flat holography and provide a unified framework valid for arbitrary dimension.

Editorial analysis

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This paper fixes the scaling mismatch in 3D with a dual basis and extends the bulk state construction to higher dimensions via a tilde basis, recovering the propagator with a Riemann sum over the scaling window. The dual basis lets the flat limit of the AdS highest-weight conditions go through smoothly and reproduces the Green's function. In higher dimensions the tilde basis gives explicit bulk local states in both momentum and alternative forms, and it connects back to the 3D case by a sign factor. That gives a single framework that works for any dimension. The non-uniformity in descendant level is handled by treating the sum in the n ~ l window as a Riemann integral that turns the discrete expansion into the continuum momentum representation for the massive scalar propagator. These steps are concrete and build directly on the induced representation from earlier flat-limit work. The constructions look reproducible from the descriptions given. The main soft spot is the Riemann-sum step itself. The paper notes the non-uniformity but does not supply an explicit remainder estimate or show that the approximation error vanishes uniformly in the flat-space parameter. Without that, it is not fully clear whether the recovered Green's function matches the expected massive propagator exactly or only up to some uncontrolled term. This is a moderate rather than fatal gap; the overall algebra appears consistent. The paper is for researchers already working on flat holography or Carrollian CFTs who need algebraic control over bulk states. A reader who knows the prior AdS flat-limit papers will see the value in the basis adjustments and the unified treatment. It deserves peer review. The technical pieces are specific enough that experts in the area can check the derivations and decide whether the limits hold.

Referee Report

2 major / 1 minor

Summary. The manuscript revisits and extends the construction of bulk local states in flat holography by taking the flat limit of AdS_{d+1} highest-weight conditions to obtain an induced representation. In three dimensions it introduces a dual basis to resolve the scaling mismatch between bra and ket states, yielding a smooth limit that reproduces the correct Green's function. For higher dimensions explicit constructions are given in both the momentum basis and an alternative tilde basis. The flat limit is shown to be non-uniform in descendant level, and a Riemann-sum treatment over the scaling window n∼l is used to convert the discrete descendant expansion into the continuum momentum representation, recovering the massive propagator. The tilde basis generalizes to arbitrary dimension and is related to the three-dimensional flat basis by a sign factor.

Significance. If the derivations are rigorous, the work supplies a unified algebraic framework for bulk reconstruction in flat holography that is valid in any dimension and rests on the induced representation obtained from the AdS flat limit. The explicit constructions in momentum and tilde bases, together with the recovery of the massive propagator, constitute concrete progress toward a parameter-free understanding of bulk local operators in flat-space holography.

major comments (2)

[discussion of the flat limit and Riemann-sum treatment] The central claim that the Riemann-sum treatment over the n∼l window converts the discrete descendant expansion into the exact continuum momentum representation and recovers the massive propagator is load-bearing. Given the acknowledged non-uniformity of the flat limit in descendant level, an explicit remainder estimate or proof that the limit and the sum commute is required; without it the recovered Green's function may differ from the expected massive propagator by an uncontrolled amount.
[three-dimensional dual-basis construction] The three-dimensional construction relies on the dual basis to produce a smooth flat limit and the correct Green's function. It should be shown explicitly that this dual basis preserves the inner-product structure and the induced-representation relations without additional consistency conditions that are not already guaranteed by the flat limit of the AdS highest-weight conditions.

minor comments (1)

[higher-dimensional tilde-basis construction] The relation between the tilde basis and the three-dimensional flat basis via a sign factor is stated but could be accompanied by a short explicit transformation rule for clarity.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the careful reading and constructive comments on our manuscript. We address the major points below and will revise the paper to incorporate additional rigor where needed.

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Referee: The central claim that the Riemann-sum treatment over the n∼l window converts the discrete descendant expansion into the exact continuum momentum representation and recovers the massive propagator is load-bearing. Given the acknowledged non-uniformity of the flat limit in descendant level, an explicit remainder estimate or proof that the limit and the sum commute is required; without it the recovered Green's function may differ from the expected massive propagator by an uncontrolled amount.

Authors: We agree that a more explicit control on the error is desirable given the non-uniformity. The manuscript already shows that the Riemann sum over the n∼l window reproduces the massive propagator, but in the revision we will add a detailed remainder estimate. This will bound the contribution from descendant levels outside the scaling window and demonstrate that the error vanishes in the flat limit, establishing that the discrete sum and continuum limit commute within the controlled approximation. revision: yes
Referee: The three-dimensional construction relies on the dual basis to produce a smooth flat limit and the correct Green's function. It should be shown explicitly that this dual basis preserves the inner-product structure and the induced-representation relations without additional consistency conditions that are not already guaranteed by the flat limit of the AdS highest-weight conditions.

Authors: The dual basis is obtained directly from the flat limit of the AdS highest-weight conditions, which by construction preserves the induced-representation algebra. To make this fully explicit, the revised manuscript will include a direct computation of the inner products in the dual basis, verifying that the overlap structure and commutation relations hold without introducing any consistency conditions beyond those inherited from the AdS flat limit. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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Central algebraic foundation imported from flat limit of prior AdS highest-weight conditions via self-citation chain

specific steps

self citation load bearing [Abstract]
"focusing on the induced representation obtained from the flat limit of the AdS highest-weight conditions. [...] The flat limit of the AdS_{d+1} construction is shown to be non-uniform in the descendant level and the Riemann-sum treatment over the scaling window n∼l converts the discrete descendant expansion into the continuum momentum representation, recovering the massive propagator. [...] These results establish the induced representation as the correct algebraic foundation for bulk reconstruction in flat holography"

The paper takes the induced representation as its starting point from the flat limit of prior AdS highest-weight conditions (self-cited framework), then uses it to construct bulk states and 'establish' it as correct. The load-bearing algebraic foundation is therefore imported rather than independently re-derived or benchmarked here; the Riemann-sum step and basis constructions operate on top of this imported object.

full rationale

The derivation begins by adopting the induced representation from the flat limit of AdS highest-weight conditions (prior work). New elements include explicit constructions in momentum/tilde bases, dual-basis resolution of bra-ket mismatch in 3D, and Riemann-sum conversion over n∼l for non-uniform descendant levels. These add independent content and recover the massive propagator as a derived result rather than by definition or fit. No self-definitional loops, fitted inputs renamed as predictions, or ansatz smuggling within the paper itself. Moderate self-citation dependence on the starting representation keeps the score at 4; the central claim does not reduce to its inputs by construction.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

The paper rests on the assumption that the flat limit of AdS highest-weight modules yields a well-defined induced representation for flat space; no new free parameters are introduced in the abstract, but the scaling window n∼l and the dual-basis normalization are chosen to match the expected propagator.

axioms (1)

domain assumption The flat limit of AdS highest-weight conditions defines the correct induced representation for bulk local states in flat holography.
Invoked in the opening sentence of the abstract as the starting point for all constructions.

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