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arxiv: 2604.05604 · v1 · submitted 2026-04-07 · 🌀 gr-qc · astro-ph.GA· astro-ph.HE

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Twisted doughnuts: Thick disk torus around equatorial asymmetric black hole

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Equatorial asymmetry in black hole spacetimes twists thick accretion tori away from the plane.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper demonstrates that when the equatorial symmetry of a black hole spacetime is broken, thick disk tori modeled by the Polish doughnut approach become vertically distorted. The centers and cusps of these tori shift in the same direction as the stable circular orbits, and the entire structure twists accordingly. This effect is illustrated with a constant specific angular momentum distribution for the disk fluid. The finding matters because it implies that accretion structures around black holes in modified gravity scenarios would exhibit characteristic asymmetries that could be observable.

Core claim

Due to the equatorial asymmetry of the spacetime, the centers and the cusps of tori are distorted away from the original equatorial plane toward the same direction as that experienced by the stable Keplerian orbits, and the entire tori configurations are twisted toward that direction as well. The shape of the distorted tori is demonstrated explicitly using a constant specific angular momentum profile of the disk fluid, but the result applies to non-constant profiles generically, as any attempt to produce symmetric tori with asymmetric angular momentum leads to ill-defined or fine-tuned profiles near the equatorial plane.

What carries the argument

The Polish doughnut model of thick tori with specific angular momentum profiles in spacetimes lacking equatorial symmetry; it maps the distortion of equipotential surfaces onto the torus geometry.

If this is right

  • The centers of the tori move off the equatorial plane in the direction of the Keplerian orbit shift.
  • The cusps of the tori are similarly displaced vertically.
  • The full torus configuration twists toward the direction of the asymmetry.
  • Non-constant angular momentum profiles cannot maintain symmetry without becoming ill-defined near the plane or requiring fine-tuning.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • If the asymmetry arises from effects beyond general relativity, twisted disk observations could help test those effects.
  • Models of thin disks may require updates to account for vertical curvature in asymmetric spacetimes.
  • Numerical fluid dynamics simulations in such metrics could uncover new instabilities induced by the twist.

Load-bearing premise

The Polish doughnut model for non-self-gravitating thick disks applies directly to spacetimes with equatorial asymmetry, and asymmetric specific angular momentum profiles can be defined without becoming ill-defined or requiring fine-tuning near the equatorial plane.

What would settle it

Finding a specific angular momentum profile that produces an untilted symmetric thick torus in an equatorially asymmetric spacetime without fine-tuning or ill-defined behavior near the plane would disprove the result.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2604.05604 by Audrey Trova, Che-Yu Chen, Eva Hackmann.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: FIG. 1. The isosurfaces of the effective potential [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: FIG. 2. The polar coordinate [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: FIG. 3. The region of critical points (cusp and center) in the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: FIG. 5. Equipotential contours of the effective potential [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_5.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 6. Figure 6: FIG. 6. Equipotential contours of the effective potential [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_6.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 7. Figure 7: FIG. 7. The contour of [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p009_7.png] view at source ↗
read the original abstract

The Kerr black hole spacetime is symmetric with respect to a well-defined equatorial plane. When such a symmetry is broken, for instance, by some putative effects beyond general relativity, the Keplerian circular orbits around the black hole are distorted vertically away from the equatorial plane by an amount depending on the orbital radius. As a result, the Keplerian thin disk acquires a curved surface. In this work, we extend such results to thick tori configurations by considering non-self-gravitating Polish doughnut models. We show that due to the equatorial asymmetry of the spacetime, the centers and the cusps of tori are distorted away from the original equatorial plane toward the same direction as that experienced by the stable Keplerian orbits, and the entire tori configurations are twisted toward that direction as well. The shape of the distorted tori is demonstrated explicitly using a constant specific angular momentum profile $\ell(r,y)=\ell_0$ of the disk fluid. However, the result also applies to non-constant profiles of $\ell(r,y)$ generically in the sense that any asymmetric profile of $\ell(r,y)$ that attempts to produce a symmetric tori configuration either turns out to be ill-defined near the equatorial plane or suffers from fine-tuning issues.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

1 major / 2 minor

Summary. The manuscript extends results on thin Keplerian disks in stationary axisymmetric spacetimes lacking equatorial reflection symmetry to thick tori using the non-self-gravitating Polish doughnut model. It claims that for constant specific angular momentum ℓ(r,y)=ℓ₀ the equipotential surfaces exhibit vertical shifts of the center and cusp away from the equatorial plane (in the same sense as stable circular orbits) together with an overall twist of the torus; the result is asserted to hold generically because any ℓ(r,y) profile chosen to enforce a symmetric torus must either become ill-defined near y=0 or require fine-tuning.

Significance. If substantiated, the work supplies a concrete, reproducible construction (constant-ℓ equipotentials of the effective potential W) that demonstrates how equatorial asymmetry propagates into thick-disk geometry. This provides a falsifiable template for accretion models in modified-gravity or exotic spacetimes and highlights a potential constraint on admissible angular-momentum distributions. The explicit constant-ℓ example and the internal consistency of the barotropic Euler integration are strengths.

major comments (1)
  1. [generic applicability argument] Abstract and the generic-applicability paragraph: the assertion that 'any asymmetric profile of ℓ(r,y) that attempts to produce a symmetric tori configuration either turns out to be ill-defined near the equatorial plane or suffers from fine-tuning issues' is load-bearing for the generic claim yet is stated without an explicit construction or discontinuity calculation. A concrete example showing the required jump or tuning across y=0 would be needed to elevate the statement from plausible to demonstrated.
minor comments (2)
  1. [model setup] The coordinate choice (r,y) and the precise definition of the asymmetric metric should be stated explicitly in the opening section so that the integration of dW can be followed without external references.
  2. [results/figures] If figures display the twisted tori, they should include an overlay of the equatorial plane and a quantitative measure (e.g., vertical displacement of the cusp) to make the distortion visually and numerically clear.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the careful reading, positive assessment of the work, and recommendation for minor revision. We address the single major comment below and will revise the manuscript accordingly.

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  1. Referee: Abstract and the generic-applicability paragraph: the assertion that 'any asymmetric profile of ℓ(r,y) that attempts to produce a symmetric tori configuration either turns out to be ill-defined near the equatorial plane or suffers from fine-tuning issues' is load-bearing for the generic claim yet is stated without an explicit construction or discontinuity calculation. A concrete example showing the required jump or tuning across y=0 would be needed to elevate the statement from plausible to demonstrated.

    Authors: We agree that an explicit example would strengthen the generic claim. The constant-ℓ₀ case already provides a fully explicit, reproducible demonstration of the vertical shifts and twist via the equipotentials of W. The generic statement rests on the observation that the metric asymmetry shifts the extrema of W away from y=0; any ℓ(r,y) chosen to cancel this shift exactly must compensate the metric terms that break equatorial symmetry. In the revised manuscript we will add a concrete illustration in the discussion section: consider a trial profile ℓ(r,y)=ℓ₀(1+δ y/r) near the equator. Enforcing symmetric equipotentials then requires δ to cancel the leading odd term in the metric expansion, which either introduces a jump discontinuity in ∂ℓ/∂y at y=0 or forces δ to a precise, non-generic value that is unstable to small changes in the metric coefficients. This example will be presented with the relevant expansion of W and the resulting condition on ℓ. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; derivation applies standard model directly

full rationale

The paper's central derivation applies the standard Polish doughnut construction—equipotentials of the effective potential W obtained from the relativistic Euler equation for barotropic flow—to a given stationary axisymmetric metric that lacks equatorial reflection symmetry. For the constant specific angular momentum profile ℓ(r,y)=ℓ₀ the surfaces are obtained by direct integration and exhibit the vertical shift and twist; this is a straightforward numerical or analytic evaluation rather than a reduction to the input. The generic claim that any ℓ(r,y) chosen to enforce symmetry must be ill-defined or finely tuned near y=0 follows logically from the metric asymmetry and the definition of W, without self-definition or fitted parameters renamed as predictions. Any self-citations to prior thin-disk results are independent supporting context and not load-bearing for the thick-torus computation itself. The chain is therefore self-contained against the stated model assumptions.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

1 free parameters · 2 axioms · 0 invented entities

The claim rests on standard assumptions of the Polish doughnut model and the introduction of equatorial asymmetry as a beyond-GR effect; no new particles or forces are invented, but the model choice and profile assumptions are key.

free parameters (1)
  • constant specific angular momentum ℓ0
    Chosen value for the explicit demonstration of the twisted torus shape.
axioms (2)
  • domain assumption Non-self-gravitating Polish doughnut model for thick disks applies in asymmetric spacetimes
    Invoked to model the tori configurations.
  • domain assumption Existence of equatorial asymmetry in the spacetime metric
    Putative effect beyond GR that breaks symmetry.

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