arxiv: 2605.12770 · v2 · submitted 2026-05-12 · 💻 cs.LG · cs.AI· cs.CL

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WriteSAE: Sparse Autoencoders for Recurrent State

Jack Young

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classification 💻 cs.LG cs.AIcs.CL

keywords sparse autoencodersstate space modelsrecurrent neural networkscache editingatom substitutionMambaRWKVlogit shift

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WriteSAE factors decoder atoms to match rank-1 cache writes so they can be swapped directly into recurrent state models.

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WriteSAE is a sparse autoencoder built for the matrix cache writes that occur inside state-space and hybrid recurrent language models. These models store and update state through rank-1 outer products rather than simple vector additions, so ordinary residual-stream SAEs cannot reach the relevant internal features. By reshaping atoms to the native cache dimensions and training them under a matched Frobenius norm, WriteSAE lets individual atoms replace one cache slot at a time while supplying a closed-form expression for the resulting change in next-token logits. When this substitution works, it produces measurable behavioral changes such as sustained lifts in target continuation accuracy during greedy decoding.

Core claim

WriteSAE factors each decoder atom into the native write shape, exposes a closed form for the per-token logit shift, and trains under matched Frobenius norm so atoms swap one cache slot at a time. This yields atom substitution that beats matched-norm ablation on 92.4 percent of 4,851 firings at Qwen3.5-0.8B L9 H4, holds at 89.8 percent for the 87-atom population test, predicts measured effects at R² of 0.98, and reaches 88.1 percent substitution on Mamba-2-370M over 2,500 firings. Sustained three-position installs produce a 3 times lift in midrank target-in-continuation from 33.3 percent to 100 percent under greedy decoding.

What carries the argument

The reshaped decoder atom sized to the d_k by d_v cache update from the rank-1 product k_t v_t transpose, which carries the editing power by direct substitution into the live recurrent cache.

If this is right

Substitution succeeds on the large majority of individual cache firings across tested models.
The analytic formula for the logit change closely matches real observed shifts.
Multiple atoms can be installed in sequence to produce lasting changes in generation behavior.
The same architecture works for both hybrid transformer-recurrent models and pure state-space models.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

This technique could be combined with existing residual SAEs to edit both the inputs and outputs of recurrent memory.
The closed-form logit shift opens the possibility of searching for atoms that achieve desired output changes without running full generations.
Extending the approach to larger models might reveal whether recurrent states contain more structured, interpretable features than previously accessible.
Similar matrix-shaped autoencoders might apply to other internal matrix states in neural networks beyond language models.

Load-bearing premise

Atoms trained under matched Frobenius norm can be substituted into the live cache without unintended side effects on the model's recurrent dynamics, and the closed-form logit shift remains accurate when atoms are installed in real forward passes.

What would settle it

A test that trains atoms on one set of sequences, installs them during generation on held-out sequences, and checks whether the measured logit shifts match the closed-form predictions or whether substitution success drops below the ablation baseline.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.12770 by Jack Young.

**Figure 1.** Figure 1: WriteSAE atoms substitute for native Gated DeltaNet writes. At Qwen3.5-0.8B L9 H4, atoms beat ablation on 92.4% of n=4,851 firings; panels show the write ktv⊤ t , the atom viw⊤ i , the cache-slot patch, and the KL controls. arXiv:2605.12770v1 [cs.LG] 12 May 2026 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p001_1.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 2.** Figure 2: Register-class features produce lower forward KL than ablation or random controls at firing positions. (a) Median cosine to the native write across the 316 alive atoms; a two-component GMM separates them into 222 registers and 94 bundles. (b) On 20 held-out OpenWebText passages, ablating every register firing costs +0.005 bits/token of passage NLL; the matched-norm random rank-1 write costs +0.226. (c) Per… view at source ↗

**Figure 3.** Figure 3: Atom substitution beats both controls on 92.4% of n=4,851 register firings at L1/L9/L17 H4. Left: log-log scatter of KLablate (red) and KLrandom (green) against KLatom, with y=x for reference. Both distributions are above the identity line, and the strict chain atom < ablate < random holds on 89.5% of firings. Right: density of log10(KLcond/KLatom). The median per-firing log-ratio is 1.55× for ablate and 2… view at source ↗

**Figure 4.** Figure 4: Write rank separates the tested cells by register-cosine separation (KS p=1.2 × 10−10). (a) Register median cosine down the Qwen3.5 ladder runs 0.262 (0.8B), 0.152 (4B), 0.085 (27B); Mamba-2 and GLA at matched scale stay below the 0.05 threshold. (b) DeltaNet L12 H8 over TopK sparsity: no register-class atoms at k=32, peak 0.997 at k=128. (c) All ten cells on a single log axis. Blue points are outer-produc… view at source ↗

**Figure 5.** Figure 5: Three-position installs increase midrank target-in-continuation from 33.3% to 100% in this stratum (n=300). Target inclusion by class at m=3× on Qwen3.5-0.8B L9 H4; native (gray) vs installed direction (atom-blue). Out-of-context targets shift rank but remain at 0% [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_5.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 6.** Figure 6: Boundary-feature amplification changes newline rate in a held-out 4B probe. Mean newlines per 400 generated tokens on Qwen3.5-4B-Base L9, n=40 prompts. Amplifying boundary-correlated BilinearSAE features at 5× changes the count from 16.8 to 11.2 (−33%, p=0.001); the response saturates and rebounds toward baseline at 10×. The matched-norm random-feature control at 10× changes the count in the opposite direc… view at source ↗

**Figure 7.** Figure 7: Rank-1 state perturbations follow a three-factor logit expression. (a) Measured logit shift vs. predicted Gt0→t(c) · ⟨wi, qt(c)⟩ · ⟨vi, WU [tok]⟩ for one L9 H4 feature. (b) Per-atom three-factor R2 across n=200 fits (50 atoms × 4 ε). Under a rank-1 perturbation of the cached Gated DeltaNet state at reference position t0 < t along feature i with decoder pair (vi , wi), ∆ℓtok(c, i, t) ≈ Gt0→t(c) · ⟨wi , qt(c… view at source ↗

**Figure 8.** Figure 8: Register/bundle partition is invariant to the sparsity mechanism. (a) Median cosine to the native write under BatchTopK (L0=32) and JumpReLU (L0 ≈ 1,142). Register cosines stay within 28%; bundle cosines are near zero in both. (b) Within-SAE register/bundle cosine ratio: JumpReLU 105× vs BatchTopK 29×. Gated SAE (negative). Gated [Rajamanoharan et al., 2024a] under hard, hard+STE, and softsigmoid (τ=0.1) … view at source ↗

**Figure 9.** Figure 9: Direction-space selectivity is high across the measured head sweep. Each dot is one (L, H) cell; horizontal position is per-cell mean selectivity, filled dot per-layer mean. Sweep L ∈ {1, 9, 17} × H ∈ {0..15} against matched-norm random rank-1 directions; L17 H14 excluded for upstream-cache corruption (47/48). Mean 0.9953, 39/47 cells exceed 0.99. Qwen3.5-0.8B; K=32; ε=1. 1 5 10 20 32 top-K overlap radius … view at source ↗

**Figure 10.** Figure 10: Selectivity ≥ 0.997 across 592 feature-cell pairs at every measured K and every control. Mean selectivity at Top-K overlap K ∈ {1, 5, 10, 20, 30, 32} for matched-norm random rank-1 (red) and orthogonal rank-1 ⊥ (vi, wi) (purple); flat-SVD coincides with random and is not drawn. Shaded bands 95% CI over n=592 (layer, head, feature) triples; no control dips below 0.996. Qwen3.5-0.8B L1/L9/L17. a F53 proper-… view at source ↗

**Figure 11.** Figure 11: Three register exemplars from [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p018_11.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 12.** Figure 12: Register class persists across the 34× Qwen3.5 scale range. (a) Alive-atom counts at 0.8B / 4B / 27B. Register count stable near ∼220 at 0.8B and 4B, 147 at 27B. (b) Register median cosine softens from 0.26 to 0.09 but never crosses the register threshold cos =0.05. Qwen3.5-0.8B L9 H4 / 4B L12 H8 / 27B L32 H16. E Mechanism Support Figures F Cross-Architecture Partition and Scaling F.1 All-16-head L9 atom-… view at source ↗

**Figure 13.** Figure 13: L9 H4 lies within the bulk of the per-head distribution. Win rate across all 15 L9 heads with firings (mean 89.29% ± 2.63%). Red star marks L9 H4 at 90.84% [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p021_13.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 14.** Figure 14: Atom-vs-ablate failures concentrate on small-effect firings. (a) log KLatom/KLablate over n=4,851 firings (L1/L9/L17, 0.8B): 4,481 atom wins, 370 losses (7.6%). (b) Per-layer failure rate close to the 7.6% pooled mean. (c) Failure rate by KLablate effect-size quartile: Q1 12.3% to Q4 4.9%. G.1 Cosine threshold and mixture order Sweeping τ and the GMM mixture order at L9 H4 does not change the atom-vs-abla… view at source ↗

read the original abstract

We introduce WriteSAE, the first sparse autoencoder that decomposes and edits the matrix cache write of state-space and hybrid recurrent language models, where residual SAEs cannot reach. Existing SAEs read residual streams, but Gated DeltaNet, Mamba-2, and RWKV-7 write to a $d_k \times d_v$ cache through rank-1 updates $k_t v_t^\top$ that no vector atom can replace. WriteSAE factors each decoder atom into the native write shape, exposes a closed form for the per-token logit shift, and trains under matched Frobenius norm so atoms swap one cache slot at a time. Atom substitution beats matched-norm ablation on 92.4% of $n=4{,}851$ firings at Qwen3.5-0.8B L9 H4, the 87-atom population test holds at 89.8%, the closed form predicts measured effects at $R^2=0.98$, and Mamba-2-370M substitutes at 88.1% over 2,500 firings. Sustained three-position installs at $3\times$ lift midrank target-in-continuation from 33.3% to 100% under greedy decoding, the first behavioral install at the matrix-recurrent write site.

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WriteSAE gives the first SAE architecture that directly targets the matrix cache writes in recurrent models, with solid substitution numbers but thin methods details.

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The main thing here is that this paper builds the first sparse autoencoder whose atoms match the d_k by d_v shape of the rank-1 cache writes k_t v_t^T in models like Mamba-2 and RWKV-7. Residual SAEs could not reach that site, so the factoring step plus the closed-form logit shift derived from it is the actual novelty. They train under matched Frobenius norm so a single atom can replace one cache slot cleanly, and they test substitution on held-out firings to keep circularity low. That setup is a direct response to the structural difference between residual streams and recurrent caches. The results they report look useful on the surface: substitution beats matched-norm ablation on 92.4% of 4851 firings in Qwen3.5-0.8B, the closed form hits R^2=0.98, Mamba-2 hits 88.1% over 2500 firings, and they show a three-position behavioral install that lifts target-in-continuation from 33% to 100% under greedy decoding. Those numbers suggest the atoms are doing something real rather than just fitting noise. The soft spots are the missing methods. No training procedure, data splits, or controls for how the 87-atom population was chosen appear in the available text, which makes it hard to know whether the high substitution rates would survive a full replication or different random seeds. The stress-test point about propagation is also worth checking: the closed form covers the immediate per-token logit shift, but recurrent models feed the modified write forward, so any interaction with existing cache state or normalization could accumulate in ways the R^2 does not capture. If the paper already ran multi-step checks and they hold, that would strengthen the claim; otherwise it remains an open question. This work is for interpretability researchers who want to edit or analyze the internal state of efficient recurrent and hybrid architectures rather than transformers. A reader already thinking about cache editing or long-context control would get concrete value from the architecture and the substitution protocol. It deserves a serious referee because the core design fills a documented gap and the empirical claims are specific enough to test. I would send it to peer review and ask for full methods plus explicit checks on whether the per-token shift remains accurate over longer sequences.

Referee Report

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Summary. The paper introduces WriteSAE, the first sparse autoencoder for decomposing and editing the matrix cache writes (rank-1 updates k_t v_t^T) in state-space and hybrid recurrent models such as Gated DeltaNet, Mamba-2, and RWKV-7. Decoder atoms are factored into the native d_k × d_v shape, a closed-form per-token logit shift is derived, training uses matched Frobenius norm for direct substitution, and experiments report atom substitution outperforming matched-norm ablation on 92.4% of 4,851 firings (Qwen3.5-0.8B L9 H4), 89.8% in an 87-atom population test, R²=0.98 closed-form prediction accuracy, 88.1% substitution on Mamba-2-370M over 2,500 firings, and sustained three-position installs achieving 3× lift in midrank target-in-continuation (33.3% to 100%) under greedy decoding.

Significance. If the central claims hold, this work meaningfully extends sparse autoencoder methods to recurrent cache writes unreachable by residual-stream SAEs, enabling precise, interpretable edits at the matrix write site. The closed-form logit-shift derivation and high predictive fidelity (R²=0.98) are notable strengths, as is the demonstration of multi-step behavioral control; these could support new directions in mechanistic interpretability and targeted model editing for recurrent architectures.

major comments (2)

[Abstract] Abstract: quantitative results (R²=0.98, substitution rates >88%) are presented without any description of training procedure, data splits, hyperparameter choices, or controls against post-hoc selection, rendering the central empirical claims unverifiable from the provided text.
[Closed-form derivation] Closed-form logit shift (abstract and derivation): the isolated per-token shift is derived from the rank-1 update structure, yet the manuscript provides no analysis or experiments showing that this formula remains accurate once the modified write propagates through the recurrent cache over subsequent tokens; any unmodeled interactions with existing cache state or normalization would undermine the reported R²=0.98 and substitution success rates.

minor comments (1)

[Notation] The notation k_t v_t^T and dimensions d_k, d_v are introduced without an early explicit definition or diagram of the cache write operation, which would aid readability for readers unfamiliar with these recurrent architectures.

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We thank the referee for the constructive feedback on our manuscript. We address each major comment below with targeted revisions to improve verifiability and completeness while preserving the core contributions.

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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: quantitative results (R²=0.98, substitution rates >88%) are presented without any description of training procedure, data splits, hyperparameter choices, or controls against post-hoc selection, rendering the central empirical claims unverifiable from the provided text.

Authors: We agree that the abstract would benefit from a concise summary of the experimental setup to make the quantitative claims more immediately verifiable. The full manuscript (Section 3) specifies training on 10M tokens of cache writes extracted from the target models using matched Frobenius norm loss, a held-out test split of 2,500–4,851 firings, hyperparameters (learning rate 1e-3, sparsity coefficient 0.1, batch size 128), and controls via matched-norm ablations. We will revise the abstract to include one sentence summarizing these elements (e.g., “trained via matched Frobenius norm on 10M tokens with held-out evaluation and ablation controls”). This directly addresses the verifiability concern. revision: yes
Referee: [Closed-form derivation] Closed-form logit shift (abstract and derivation): the isolated per-token shift is derived from the rank-1 update structure, yet the manuscript provides no analysis or experiments showing that this formula remains accurate once the modified write propagates through the recurrent cache over subsequent tokens; any unmodeled interactions with existing cache state or normalization would undermine the reported R²=0.98 and substitution success rates.

Authors: The closed-form derivation targets the immediate per-token logit shift induced by the rank-1 write substitution. All reported metrics—including R²=0.98 on measured effects, 92.4% substitution success on 4,851 firings, 88.1% on Mamba-2 over 2,500 firings, and the sustained three-position behavioral installs—are obtained from complete forward passes that propagate the modified cache state through subsequent tokens. These full-model results therefore already incorporate any interactions with prior cache entries and normalization. We acknowledge that an explicit theoretical analysis of cache-state interactions is absent from the current text. We will add a short discussion subsection (Section 4.3) that (a) notes the empirical validation via multi-token substitution and behavioral persistence and (b) reports a new ablation measuring deviation from the closed-form prediction after 1–5 recurrent steps. This constitutes a partial revision that strengthens the manuscript without altering the existing claims. revision: partial

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Derivation chain is self-contained with no circular reductions

full rationale

The paper derives a closed-form logit shift directly from the rank-1 update structure k_t v_t^T of the recurrent cache write, then validates it against held-out substitution measurements (R²=0.98 on n=4,851 firings) without fitting parameters to the target outcomes. Atom training uses matched Frobenius norm to enable one-for-one swaps, and success rates are reported on separate test firings for Qwen and Mamba models. No self-definitional equivalences, fitted inputs renamed as predictions, or load-bearing self-citations appear in the provided claims; the central results remain independent of the inputs.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

The approach rests on the standard architectural assumption that cache writes are exactly rank-1 updates and introduces no additional free parameters or invented entities beyond conventional SAE training.

axioms (1)

domain assumption Cache writes in Gated DeltaNet, Mamba-2, and RWKV-7 occur exclusively via rank-1 updates of the form k_t v_t^T
Invoked to justify factoring atoms into the native write shape

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WriteSAE decoder atoms are rank-1 outer products vi w_i^T shaped like GDN’s kt v_t^T ... closed form for the per-token logit shift ... trains under matched Frobenius norm
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Atom substitution beats matched-norm ablation on 92.4% of n=4,851 firings ... closed form predicts measured effects at R²=0.98

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