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This paper seeks to establish that uncertainty can act as a control signal for LLM agents, improving factual summarization over biomedical multi-table databases and enabling abstention when confidence is low.
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An LLM agent using retrieval and summary uncertainty as training rewards and inference filters produces more factual, useful multi-omics summaries and better downstream survival predictions.
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load-bearing objection A genuinely useful integration of uncertainty control for table agents, but the headline factuality numbers are measured by the same judge family used in training—so the central claim is not yet independently verified. the 4 major comments →
Towards Agents That Know When They Don't Know: Uncertainty as a Control Signal for Structured Reasoning
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Core claim
The central claim is that uncertainty is a first-class control signal for an LLM agent operating over structured multi-table data, not just a diagnostic to report. The agent runs multiple rollout episodes per query; retrieval uncertainty is the normalized binary entropy of table-selection frequencies across episodes, and summary uncertainty is the CoCoA score, a perplexity-weighted semantic self-consistency measure. During GRPO training, a reward component based on inverse perplexity steers the policy toward confident summaries while a judge-based reward encourages exploration. At inference, the agent abstains when the combined uncertainty exceeds a threshold and otherwise returns the lowest
What carries the argument
The carrying mechanism is 'uncertainty as control,' built from two complementary signals. Retrieval uncertainty is the normalized binary entropy, averaged over tables, of how often each table is selected across K rollout episodes, so it rises when evidence acquisition is unstable. Summary uncertainty, CoCoA, multiplies the perplexity of the candidate summary by one minus the mean semantic similarity to other sampled summaries, flagging confident but inconsistent outputs. During training, perplexity alone serves as a cheap reward proxy within GRPO; at inference, the two signals set an abstention threshold and select the lowest-perplexity candidate. The same signals also filter high-uncertaint
Load-bearing premise
The factual-quality numbers assume that the LLM judge used to split summaries into claims and check them against the database is a reliable proxy for ground truth; only 40 human queries were used to validate this judge.
What would settle it
Have human domain experts fact-check every claim in the best configuration (adaptive reward plus filtering) and in the baseline SQL agent on both datasets. If the human-verified count of correct, useful claims no longer shows roughly a threefold gap (about 8.4–9.9 versus 3.0–3.6), the paper's central claim fails. A sharper check is to replace the scoring judge with an independently implemented fact-checker; a large drop would indicate judge-specific reward hacking.
If this is right
- Agents can be trained to abstain: applying the uncertainty threshold raises the correctness ratio of emitted summaries (0.82 to 0.94 on cancer; 0.84 to 0.90 internal).
- Uncertainty estimates become meaningful control signals: the prediction rejection ratio roughly doubles, reaching 0.45–0.47 for CoCoA, meaning confidence tracks factual reliability.
- Uncertainty-aware training transfers to downstream tasks: survival prediction C-index improves from 0.32 before training to 0.55–0.64 depending on reward schedule, above the 0.22 baseline.
- Reward scheduling matters: an adaptive exploitation schedule avoids early training collapse and yields the best useful-claims ratio, while omitting uncertainty rewards produces mostly hallucinated claims (correct ratio 0.27).
- Filtering high-uncertainty summaries also improves the quality of synthetic corpora, making uncertainty a data-curation tool rather than only an evaluation metric.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The factuality gains are measured by an LLM judge that is also used in the training reward, with only 40 human queries validating that judge; a reader should treat the headline numbers as contingent on judge–human agreement until a larger human-annotated claim set confirms them.
- Because the same judge family participates in both reward and evaluation, part of the improvement could reflect optimizing the judge's preferences rather than database-grounded truth; re-scoring with a judge from a different family or with rule-based verification would test this.
- The abstention mechanism implies a coverage–precision tradeoff, and thresholds tuned on a validation split may not transfer across database schemas, so schema-specific recalibration is likely needed in practice.
- The framework's cost is dominated by multiple rollouts and CoCoA's semantic-similarity computation; the paper's own ablations suggest lighter signals such as perplexity or entropy retain most of the benefit, pointing to cheaper deployment variants.
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The paper proposes an uncertainty-aware LLM agent for query-conditioned multi-table summarization in biomedical multi-omics databases. The method combines retrieval uncertainty (entropy over table-selection rollouts) and summary uncertainty (perplexity plus self-consistency, using the CoCoA framework). Summary uncertainty is used as a reward signal in GRPO training, while both retrieval and summary uncertainty are used at inference for filtering/abstention. Experiments on an internal proprietary dataset and the public MLOmics benchmark report large improvements in correct/useful claims per summary, improved PRR calibration, and improved downstream survival prediction C-index. The central claim is that uncertainty can serve as a control signal for LLM agents, improving factuality, calibration, and downstream utility.
Significance. If the results hold, the paper makes a useful contribution: it integrates uncertainty into both training and inference for table-reasoning agents and demonstrates gains on a realistic biomedical task. The framework is modular and the reward-schedule ablations are informative. However, the headline factuality claims are measured by an LLM judge from the same model family used as the training reward, with only a 40-query human validation, and the survival experiment is under-specified. These issues currently prevent the central claim from being independently verified, so the significance is conditional on additional validation.
major comments (4)
- [§4.3 vs §3.4/Appendix A] The central factuality numbers (Q2, Q3) are computed by an 'o4 mini' judge that decomposes summaries into claims and validates them against the database. The same o4-mini model family is used as the RJudge component of the GRPO reward (Appendix A). Thus the policy is trained against the same judge family used for the headline evaluation. The only human check is a 40-query holdout (Appendix E.3, Table A7) reporting r=0.64 and preserved rankings. Rank preservation does not rule out systematically inflated absolute claim counts, and 40 queries is too small to estimate claim-level precision/recall, especially for the proprietary 2,000-table internal schema where the five task-specific workflows are not released. Please provide (i) claim-level human agreement with the judge, (ii) evaluation using an independent judge family not used in training, and (iii) release of the validation workflows o
- [§4.7, Table 3] The survival prediction experiment is the only independent outcome measure, but it is under-specified. The text says the agent is prompted to estimate survival times 'leveraging in-context knowledge from summaries,' but no prompts, inputs, held-out patient count, or confidence intervals are given. Table 3 reports C-index values without error bars. The abstract highlights C-index 0.32→0.63, but the reader cannot tell how much of this is due to the summarization improvement versus the survival-prediction prompting protocol, nor whether the differences are statistically meaningful. Please specify the protocol, report N and uncertainty intervals, and describe how summaries are converted into survival-time predictions.
- [§3.3, §3.4, §4.5] There is a partial circularity in the calibration claim. During training, Rconf directly rewards low perplexity. At inference and evaluation, uCoCoA is defined as perplexity multiplied by semantic consistency (Appendix A). Therefore the reported decreases in uCoCoA and the reported PRR improvements partly reflect direct optimization of the perplexity component of the measured uncertainty. To show that the uncertainty signal is meaningful beyond this mechanical effect, please report PRR for consistency-only uncertainty (without the perplexity term) or otherwise demonstrate calibration improvements on uncertainty quantities not used as training rewards.
- [Tables 1–2, §4.5] The inference-time filtering improvement is a key part of the 'uncertainty as control' claim, but the main tables do not report the abstention rate or coverage for the specific filtering used. Table A8 gives coverage only for the internal dataset at three κ values, while Tables 1–2 report results 'after filtering' without stating which κ was used or how many summaries were abstained. Without coverage information, higher precision after filtering is expected by construction. Please report coverage/abstention rates alongside the filtered results in the main tables.
minor comments (4)
- [Abstract and §1] Typos and inconsistencies: 'ulti-omics' in the abstract; 'just less than tripling' vs 'nearly tripling' used inconsistently; in the Introduction, 'while demonstrate multi-agent orchestration' is missing a subject; 'advatage' in §3.5; 'reliabilty' in §3.6.
- [§4.2 / Appendix D] The statement that datasets are split '70:30 based on patient samples' is ambiguous for a task-level train/test split of 80/20 tasks. Clarify whether the 70:30 patient split was applied before defining tasks, and whether any patient overlap occurs between train and test tasks.
- [Appendix E.2, Table A6] The 'Entropy' and 'Retrieval variance' reward signals are not defined precisely. It is unclear what entropy is computed over when used as a training reward signal. Define these in the text.
- [Appendix E.3, Table A7] The judge robustness table reports only correlation coefficients. Reporting calibration (e.g., precision/recall of claim correctness) and a larger human sample would substantially strengthen the argument.
Circularity Check
Headline factuality gains are measured by the same o4-mini judge family used as the training reward, and the reported uncertainty reduction partly re-measures the perplexity term that was explicitly optimized.
specific steps
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fitted input called prediction
[Section 3.4 / Appendix A (Exploration Judge Reward); Section 4.3 (Summary Quality); Tables 1-2]
"An external o4-mini LLM counts the number c(τ ) of grounded, non-overlapping atomic facts in the trajectory τ that are relevant to the user's topic. The reward is: RJudge(τ ) = min(c(τ )/20, 1) ... an o4 mini judge decomposes s into atomic claims, validates them against D using a set of five task-specific workflows ..., and assigns correctness and utility labels to each claim."
The GRPO terminal reward explicitly contains RJudge(τ), an o4-mini count of grounded atomic facts in the trajectory. The headline evaluation (Q1-Q3) is produced by 'an o4 mini judge' that decomposes the final summary into atomic claims and validates correctness/usefulness against the database. The policy is therefore trained to maximize the same proxy family that later generates the reported factuality numbers (e.g., 3.6->9.9 correct claims on cancer; 3.0->8.4 internal). The 40-query human holdout preserves rankings but does not calibrate absolute claim counts, and the five task-specific validation workflows are not released. The improvement is thus partly a measure of fit to the judge, not purely to ground truth.
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self definitional
[Section 3.3 / Appendix A (Summary Confidence Reward); Tables 1-2 uCoCoA rows]
"By construction, CoCoA already integrates perplexity, so no separate perplexity term is calculated at inference; during training, we use perplexity uPerp alone as a cheaper proxy. ... Rconf(τ ) = 1/uPerp(s(τ ))."
Training uses Rconf(τ) = 1/uPerp(s(τ)) as a terminal reward, directly minimizing the perplexity of the emitted summary. The paper's summary-uncertainty evaluation uses uCoCoA, which is defined as perplexity multiplied by a consistency term. Therefore the reported decreases in uCoCoA (e.g., 0.47->0.19 on cancer; 0.45->0.20 internal) are partly forced by the training objective: the model is rewarded for lowering one of the multiplicative factors of the evaluation metric. The consistency component and the PRR alignment are not directly optimized, so the circularity is partial rather than total.
full rationale
The two flagged steps are genuine overlaps between training signals and evaluation metrics, but they are not complete reductions. First, the factuality judge (o4-mini) is the same model family as the RJudge reward, so the headline 'correct claims per summary' gains are partially an evaluation with the training proxy; the paper itself notes in Section 4.6 that 'Optimizing a single judge invites reward hacking' and offers only a 40-query human holdout with preserved rankings, which does not validate absolute counts. Second, the summary-uncertainty metric uCoCoA contains perplexity by construction, and perplexity is the training reward Rconf, so the measured drop in uCoCoA is partly a direct consequence of the optimization objective. However, retrieval uncertainty is inference-only and independent of the training reward; the PRR alignment and the consistency component of CoCoA are not directly optimized; and the downstream survival prediction (C-index 0.32->0.63) is an external, judge-free benchmark, even if under-specified. The paper's self-citations are background only and not load-bearing. These independent elements keep the circularity partial, so a score of 6 is appropriate rather than 8 or 10.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
free parameters (4)
- Reward weight α_conf schedule =
Rbase: 1/3; Rstep: 2 every 10 steps; Radapt: 2α with α = exp(-50(RJudge - 1/2)^2)
- Inference threshold κ =
0.5 default, with 0.2 and 0.8 explored
- Learning rate =
5e-5
- Max tool calls =
6
axioms (3)
- domain assumption LLM judge (o4-mini) provides valid atomic claim decomposition and fact-checking
- domain assumption The C-index from the unstated survival prediction protocol is meaningful
- domain assumption The multi-omics database environment executes SQL and Python tools faithfully
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abstract
Large language model (LLM) agents are increasingly deployed in structured biomedical data environments, yet they often produce fluent but overconfident outputs when reasoning over complex multi-table data. We introduce an uncertainty-aware agent for query-conditioned multi-table summarization that leverages two complementary signals: (i) retrieval uncertainty--entropy over multiple table-selection rollouts--and (ii) summary uncertainty--combining self-consistency and perplexity. Summary uncertainty is incorporated into reinforcement learning (RL) with Group Relative Policy Optimization (GRPO), while both retrieval and summary uncertainty guide inference-time filtering and support the construction of higher-quality synthetic datasets. On multi-omics benchmarks, our approach improves factuality and calibration, nearly tripling correct and useful claims per summary (3.0\(\rightarrow\)8.4 internal; 3.6\(\rightarrow\)9.9 cancer multi-omics) and substantially improving downstream survival prediction (C-index 0.32\(\rightarrow\)0.63). These results demonstrate that uncertainty can serve as a control signal--enabling agents to abstain, communicate confidence, and become more reliable tools for complex structured-data environments.
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Missing value analysis
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