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Local quenches in free scalar theory produce extrema clouds whose nearest-neighbor and path statistics approach random-matrix benchmarks at small Euclidean smearing.

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load-bearing objection Solid numerical extension of multi-D extremum statistics to free local quenches; the β≈1 claims are phenomenological on unflattened clouds, not yet load-bearing RMT signatures. the 3 major comments →

arxiv 2607.05512 v1 pith:KEBD6JD6 submitted 2026-07-06 hep-th cond-mat.stat-mechquant-ph

Higher-dimensional chaotic features and random matrix signatures following a local quench

Dmitry S. Ageev , Jacob Sonnenschein This is my paper
classification hep-th cond-mat.stat-mechquant-ph
keywords local quenchextremum statisticsrandom matrix theoryfree scalar fieldspatial form factornearest-neighbor spacingsgreedy pathhigher-dimensional chaos
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This paper asks whether the complicated spacetime patterns in correlation functions after a local quench carry readable signatures of chaos in the peaks and valleys of those functions. Working with a free massive scalar on a finite interval and in a two-dimensional box, the authors extract clouds of maxima and minima of the vacuum-subtracted equal-time two-point function and apply multidimensional diagnostics: all-pair distances, nearest-neighbor spacings, greedy-path spacing ratios, and an all-pair spatial form factor. At small Euclidean smearing of the quench insertion, nearest-neighbor statistics move close to the β=1 (GOE) random-matrix law in 1+1 dimensions and sit near or above that benchmark in 2+1 dimensions, while greedy-path ratios often prefer still larger effective repulsion; increasing the smearing softens the repulsion. By contrast, the spatial form factor is largely fixed by the uniform interval, rectangle, or cuboid geometry of the support and shows a dip-ramp-plateau structure in the higher-dimensional cases. The result matters because free finite-volume interference alone can organize extrema into random-matrix-like local and mesoscopic patterns, cleanly separating that organization from the coarser geometry of how the cloud fills its box.

Core claim

For local operator quenches of a free massive scalar in finite volume, the spatiotemporal extrema of the vacuum-subtracted equal-time two-point function form point clouds whose nearest-neighbor statistics approach the β=1 random-matrix benchmark at small Euclidean smearing in 1+1 dimensions and sit near or above that value in 2+1 dimensions, while greedy-path spacing ratios favor still larger effective β; the all-pair extrema spatial form factor is mainly controlled by the uniform interval, rectangle, or cuboid support of the cloud rather than by dynamical correlations.

What carries the argument

Multidimensional extremum diagnostics applied to the refined maxima, minima, and combined clouds: all-pair distance distributions, nearest-neighbor spacings (Gaussian-β and logistic fits), greedy-path adjacent spacing ratios (ABGVV-type β and ordinary Beta fits), and the all-pair extrema spatial form factor (Fourier transform of the empirical pair-distance law).

Load-bearing premise

Effective repulsion parameters fitted on axis-rescaled, non-density-unfolded extremum clouds can be read as diagnostics of chaotic features, even though full density unfolding is still required and free theories are not chaotic in the usual many-body sense.

What would settle it

Apply a genuine density-unfolding map (for example a Rosenblatt or local-density coordinate change) to the same refined 1+1 and 2+1 extrema clouds; if the fitted nearest-neighbor β for small-smearing data falls well below 1 and the 2+1 clouds lose their near-or-above-GOE character, the reported random-matrix signatures are largely geometric rather than dynamical.

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If this is right

  • At small Euclidean smearing, free finite-volume interference alone can produce GOE-like short-distance repulsion among correlator extrema.
  • Increasing the smearing scale systematically softens both nearest-neighbor and greedy-path effective repulsion.
  • The all-pair spatial form factor mainly diagnoses how completely extrema fill their metric support; nontrivial organization lives in nearest-neighbor and path statistics.
  • Maxima and minima share nearly the same global pair-distance geometry, so extremum sign is secondary at the coarsest scale.
  • The same suite of diagnostics can be applied directly to global quenches and to other free or interacting field theories.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • A completed density-unfolding study may lower the reported effective β values, so part of the present GOE-like signal could be residual geometry rather than pure local repulsion.
  • Repeating the analysis for free Dirac or Maxwell quenches would test how spin and gauge structure reshape mesoscopic path-ratio statistics relative to the scalar case.
  • Comparing free-theory extrema clouds with holographic local-quench correlators would isolate whether strong coupling stiffens or softens the same nearest-neighbor and path measures.

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Referee Report

3 major / 6 minor

Summary. The paper studies the spatiotemporal extrema of vacuum-subtracted equal-time two-point functions after local operator quenches of a free massive scalar on a finite interval (1+1) and in a rectangular box (2+1). Using exact mode expansions (Eqs. 2.15, 5.12), the authors extract refined maxima/minima clouds and apply multidimensional diagnostics from prior work: all-pair distance distributions, nearest-neighbor spacings, greedy-path spacing ratios, and an all-pair extrema spatial form factor ExFF. For the interval quench they report that, at small Euclidean smearing α, fitted Gaussian-β nearest-neighbor parameters move toward β≈1, while larger α softens the effective repulsion (Fig. 5); for the 2+1 quench, refined NN fits sit near or above β=1 and greedy-path ratios prefer still larger effective β (table 5.20). The form factor is found to be controlled mainly by the uniform interval/rectangle/cuboid geometry of the cloud (dip–ramp–plateau in d=2,3), so that nontrivial local/mesoscopic organization is attributed to NN and greedy-path statistics rather than to ExFF.

Significance. If the reported proximity of extremum statistics to RMT-like benchmarks survives controlled density unfolding and geometric null models, the work would supply a concrete, exactly computable free-field laboratory for multidimensional extremum diagnostics previously applied to scattering amplitudes and pinball models. Strengths include exact mode-sum correlators, analytic derivatives and Hessian-based refinement of extrema, explicit numerical parameters, and a clear hierarchy separating global geometry (all-pair, ExFF) from local and mesoscopic measures. The form-factor analysis is a clean complementary diagnostic. Even as phenomenology of unflattened clouds, the α-scan and 2+1 extension are useful maps of post-quench interference geometry. The free-field setting is not many-body chaos, which the paper acknowledges; the value is in transferable statistical tools rather than a claim of dynamical chaos.

major comments (3)
  1. §3.5 and §7.1 state that density unfolding is indispensable and subtle in 2D/3D because it can change the nearest-neighbor graph and the greedy path, yet the main figures and the α-scan (Figs. 2–5) and the 2+1 table (5.20) report only axis-rescaled, non-density-unfolded clouds. The abstract and title treat fitted β→1 (and β≳1 in 2+1) as random-matrix signatures of chaotic features. Without at least one controlled unfolding comparison (e.g. Rosenblatt or local-density metric) showing that the approach to β=1 and the hierarchy β_r>β_NN survive, those claims remain phenomenological descriptions of residual density rather than load-bearing RMT diagnostics. Either perform a representative unfolding study or substantially temper the abstract/title language to match the caveats already in §4.2 and §7.1.
  2. §4.2 correctly notes that a homogeneous 2D Poisson process already yields the GOE Wigner curve after mean normalization of NN spacings, and in 3D geometric small-s suppression is stronger still. The reported β_NN≈0.42–0.80 (1+1) and β_NN≈1.65, β_r≈2.3 (2+1 maxima) are therefore not interpretable as Dyson indices without explicit geometric null models (uniform rectangle/cuboid Poisson, and ideally local-density baselines). Please add these baselines side-by-side with the data histograms and restate what “close to β=1” means relative to the Poisson geometry of the same support, not only relative to the one-parameter GβE family.
  3. Fig. 5 and the accompanying text: as α decreases from 0.1 to 0.01, N_maxima rises from ~1.6×10^3 to ~1.26×10^5 while β_δ hardens toward ~0.8. The reported approach to the GOE-like value is therefore entangled with a large change in sample size, residual inhomogeneity of the unflattened cloud, and possible finite-N bias in the greedy path. A fixed-N or density-matched comparison across α (or a statement of how β is stable under subsampling the dense small-α clouds) is needed before the α-dependence can be read as a physical softening of repulsion rather than a sampling artifact.
minor comments (6)
  1. Title and abstract use “chaotic features” and “random matrix signatures” while §1 and §4.2 stress that free theories are not chaotic in the usual many-body sense and that β is not a literal Dyson index. Align the front matter with the more careful body language.
  2. Typo: section title “All-pair extrimum points spatial form factor” (§6) should be “extremum”.
  3. Eq. (6.2): “avareging” → “averaging”; also clarify whether ⟨·⟩ is over independent quench realizations or only over pair sampling within one cloud.
  4. Fig. 1 caption: “patricular” → “particular”; “strip size L=4” while main runs use L=1—state which parameters are representative vs. those used for statistics.
  5. References [18] and [34] are cited as arXiv preprints with future-looking numbers; ensure final bibliographic data are consistent and that dependence on the multi-dimensional-chaos pipeline is transparent.
  6. §5 table (5.20): raw vs refined rows differ substantially in β_NN for minima (1.48→1.24) and all (1.19→0.99). A short comment on how refinement/deduplication shifts the fits would help the reader assess robustness.

Circularity Check

1 steps flagged

Method diagnostics imported from overlapping-author papers; numerical extrema fits themselves are independent extractions, not tautological.

specific steps
  1. self citation load bearing [§1 (Introduction) and §3 (Extremum-point observables)]
    "A recent proposal in this direction was made in [9, 10] ... The appropriate multidimensional framework was introduced in [18] ... Three complementary diagnostics were introduced for the resulting cloud of extrema: the all-pair distance distribution ... nearest-neighbor spacing distribution ... and the greedy-path spacing and ratio statistics ..."

    The paper's framing that the extracted extrema statistics constitute 'higher-dimensional chaotic features and random matrix signatures' is justified by importing the diagnostic suite and its RMT/logistic/Beta comparison families from prior works whose author lists overlap with the present paper. The numerical values themselves are not circular, but the interpretive premise that proximity of fitted eta to 1 signals chaos is load-bearing on that self-citation chain rather than on an independent external uniqueness or verification result.

full rationale

The paper's load-bearing content consists of exact free-field mode-sum evaluations of Gloc, grid/Newton extraction of refined extrema clouds, and subsequent histogram fits of all-pair, nearest-neighbor, greedy-path, and ExFF statistics. Those numerical outputs (e.g. eta_NN o 0.76–0.80 at small au, eta_r hierarchy, cuboid-controlled form factor) are not forced by construction from the definitions of the diagnostics; they are independent computations. The only mild circularity is that the interpretive claim of 'chaotic features / RMT signatures' rests on the multi-dimensional extremum pipeline and comparison families introduced in overlapping-author works [18,16,9,10]. That is ordinary method self-citation, not a self-definitional loop or a fitted-input-called-prediction. Unfolding caveats and geometric Poisson baselines affect correctness risk, not circularity. Score 2 reflects one non-load-bearing self-citation chain; central results remain self-contained against the free-field data.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

5 free parameters · 4 axioms · 2 invented entities

The central claim rests on free-field mode expansions (standard), the local-quench correlator definition, multi-dimensional extremum diagnostics imported from prior work, and phenomenological fits of β/logistic/Beta parameters on axis-rescaled clouds. No new particles or forces; the main invented object is the all-pair extrema spatial form factor as a point-cloud diagnostic. Free parameters include physical regulators (α, m, L, cutoffs) and all fitted statistical parameters that the RMT-like statements quote.

free parameters (5)
  • Euclidean smearing α
    Regulator of the local insertion; representative plots use α=0.05 and Fig. 5 scans α∈{0.01,...,0.1}, which strongly changes fitted β and extremum counts.
  • mass m and box sizes L, Lx, Ly
    Fixed by hand (m=10, L=1 or Lx=Ly=1 in main runs); set the mode spectrum and interference geometry underlying the clouds.
  • mode cutoff k_max and grid (Nx,Ny,Nt)
    Numerical truncations (e.g. k_max=5200 / 350; Nt=30000 / 500) that control which extrema are resolved.
  • core radius r_core
    Hand-chosen UV excision (0.08) that removes the near-insertion region from the analysis window.
  • fitted β_NN, β_r, σ_log, Beta (a,b)
    Effective parameters obtained by likelihood fits to histograms; the paper's RMT-like statements are statements about these fitted values (e.g. β_NN≈0.42–0.63 in 1+1; ≈1.65 for 2+1 maxima).
axioms (4)
  • domain assumption Free massive real scalar with exact open BC mode expansions yields the exact local-quench correlator via Wick contraction (Eqs. 2.10–2.15, 5.9–5.12).
    Standard free-field QFT; all numerics rest on this exact solvability.
  • domain assumption Multi-dimensional extremum diagnostics (all-pair distances, NN spacings, greedy-path ratios) from [18] are appropriate probes of 'erratic' structure in correlators.
    Methodological premise imported from the multi-dimensional chaos program; not re-derived here.
  • ad hoc to paper Axis rescaling without density unfolding is already informative for comparing to uniform rectangle/cuboid laws and for reporting effective β.
    Explicit choice in §3.5 and main figures; paper simultaneously argues full unfolding is indispensable.
  • domain assumption Gaussian-β, logistic, ABGVV-type, and ordinary Beta families are valid phenomenological comparison curves for multi-D extremum spacings/ratios.
    Taken from RMT and [18]; used as fit targets rather than derived from the quench dynamics.
invented entities (2)
  • All-pair extrema spatial form factor ExFF_N(k) no independent evidence
    purpose: Fourier-space global diagnostic of the extremum point cloud, analogue of spectral/scattering form factors for pair distances (Eqs. 6.2–6.7).
    Defined in this paper for quench extrema; main structure is shown to track uniform-box geometry rather than new universal chaos.
  • Refined multi-D extremum clouds E± of Gloc as statistical objects independent evidence
    purpose: Replace the full correlator by maxima/minima point sets for multi-D chaos diagnostics.
    Operational construction (grid + Newton + Hessian); not a new physical degree of freedom, but the paper's primary data object.

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We study the multidimensional erratic structure of correlation functions produced by local operator quenches in finite-volume free massive scalar field theory in dimensions 2 and 3. The basic observable is the subtracted equal-time two-point function in the locally excited state and its spatiotemporal patterns of extrema. We analyze these extrema by the multidimensional diagnostics recently introduced for chaotic scattering amplitudes and related problems: all-pair distance distributions, nearest-neighbor spacings, greedy-path spacing ratios, and the extrema form factor. For the $1+1$-dimensional local quench we find that, in the regime of small Euclidean smearing, the fitted extremum statistics move close to the $\beta=1$ random-matrix benchmark, while increasing the smearing scale softens the effective repulsion and moves the distributions away from the GOE-like value. For the $2+1$-dimensional local quench we find that the nearest-neighbor statistics of the refined extrema are close to, or above, the $\beta=1$ benchmark, and the greedy-path ratio statistics are described by even larger effective $\beta$ values. Finally we studied the all-pair extrema spatial form factor and found that, in the one-, two-, and three-dimensional cases, its main structure is controlled by the corresponding uniform interval, rectangle, or cuboid geometry of the extrema cloud and found the dip-ram-plateau structure in the last two cases. Thus the form factor provides a complementary global diagnostic of how the extrema fill their effective metric support, while the genuinely nontrivial local and mesoscopic organization is carried by the nearest-neighbor and greedy-path statistics.

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