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A decoding-time method that keeps the format in a separate module improves LLM accuracy by 1–6% with guaranteed format compliance on math, judging, and extraction.

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load-bearing objection A useful, honest extension of CtrlG-style control to template constraints, with solid engineering, but the HMM lookahead is uncalibrated and the gains are small — worth reviewing, not accepting as is. the 4 major comments →

arxiv 2510.03595 v2 pith:P3BLKF4T submitted 2025-10-04 cs.CL

Decoupling Task-Solving and Output Formatting in LLM Generation

classification cs.CL
keywords formatdeco-greasoningadherencecomplianceformattinggenerationintroduce
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Large language models often do worse when a prompt tells them both what to solve and exactly how to format the answer. This paper's method, DECO-G, splits those two jobs. The language model sees only the task; a separate 'Format Estimation Module' (FEM) holds the format rules. At every step, the FEM looks ahead—using a simplified model of the LLM's own writing habits—and boosts tokens that lead to a compliant output, while the main model keeps choosing tokens that make sense for solving the problem.

The simplified model is a hidden Markov model trained on one million responses the LLM gave to general instructions. The format rules are turned into a state machine with a trie-building trick, so templates like 'The final answer is ...' can be enforced cheaply. To keep it fast, the method keeps only the most likely hidden states when computing compliance, cutting the extra compute to a small fraction of the main model's cost.

On GSM8k math, SummEval LLM-as-judge, and ACE05 event extraction, DECO-G improves accuracy, F1, or correlation over prompting with format constraints and over hard structured generation, and hits 100% format compliance. The gains are 1–6%. The main caveats are that the steering strength had to be increased for one model family, and the code is not yet released.

Core claim

The central claim is that DECO-G, by separating format adherence from task solving, yields '1.0% to 6.0% relative gain over regular prompting practice with guaranteed format compliance' (Abstract) and 'achieves the best performance over all three models' on GSM8k (Section 4.1). If the paper is correct, a decoding-time module can enforce complex templates without degrading—indeed while improving—the LLM's underlying task performance, and does so at a small fraction of the main model's FLOPs.

Load-bearing premise

The load-bearing assumption is that an HMM distilled on one million generic instruction-response pairs from Natural-Instructions-v2 (Section 3.1, Appendix H) is a sufficiently accurate approximation of the LLM's token distribution on the specific target tasks, even though the HMM is run with an empty input and ignores the actual task prompt. If this approximation is miscalibrated, the FEM's lookahead—PFEM(α|x_t, x_<t)—will not reflect true future compliance likelihood and could steer generation badly, as the paper shows CtrlG doing in Appendix C. This assumption is structurally separate from the claim itself and is the most fragile part of the method.

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Summary. The paper proposes DECO-G, a decoding-time framework that removes format instructions from the LLM prompt and delegates format enforcement to a separately distilled HMM (the FEM). At each step, token probabilities are reweighted by PFEM(α|·)^γ, where the FEM computes the probability of eventual format compliance via a DFA-constrained HMM lookahead. Three efficiency contributions are claimed: instruction-aware HMM distillation, trie-based DFA construction, and top-k hidden-state pruning. Experiments on GSM8k, SummEval, and ACE05 across Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct and two Qwen models report 100% format compliance and 1.0–6.0% relative gains over prompting and structured-generation baselines.

Significance. The idea is valuable: if the FEM lookahead is a faithful estimate of the LLM's own compliance probability, Eq. (6) is a principled Bayes rearrangement that could reduce format-induced degradation while preserving exact format enforcement. The trie construction and top-k pruning analysis are concrete engineering contributions, and the appendix provides prompt templates and FLOPs estimates. However, the central empirical claim is currently under-supported: no calibration check ties the HMM's prompt-independent lookahead to task-conditioned LLM behavior, no error bars or significance tests accompany the small reported differences, and a key hyperparameter is set per model after observing the default's failure. These are fixable but load-bearing.

major comments (4)
  1. [§3.1, §3.3, Appendix H, Eq. (6)] The DECO-G posterior is a Bayes posterior only if PFEM(α|xt,x<t) approximates the target LLM's PLM(α|xt,x<t). Section 3.1 describes instruction-aware distillation, but Appendix H clarifies that the HMM is trained on LLM continuations only and is run with an empty input; conditioning the HMM on the prompt yields 'almost identical' results. That establishes prompt invariance of the HMM, not calibration to the task-conditioned LLM. No experiment compares FEM compliance estimates with empirical compliance rates of the LLM on the evaluated tasks. Appendix C shows precisely the failure mode of an unconditioned HMM: on GSM8k it forces the template early and drops accuracy to 60.6%. Without a calibration study, the gains in Tables 1–3 may be template-specific artifacts of the generic HMM rather than evidence for the decoupling mechanism.
  2. [Tables 1–3, 5–6] No error bars, significance tests, or repeated-seed variation are reported. Many headline differences are small: in Table 3, Llama DECO-G has average Spearman 0.418 vs. JSON-S 0.414, Qwen3 DECO-G has 0.507 vs. NL-S 0.499, and DECO-G is below JSON-S on Llama Consistency (0.439 vs. 0.447) and Fluency (0.331 vs. 0.334). These gaps are within typical evaluation noise for correlation metrics and F1. The abstract's claim of 'constant gains' over baselines is therefore not supported by the evidence as reported.
  3. [§5.2, Table 1, Appendix A] The steering strength γ is set to 2 for all Qwen models after observing that γ=1 is insufficient. No γ=1 results or sensitivity sweep are reported, and Appendix A acknowledges that finding the optimal γ may require empirical exploration. Since γ is a model-specific free parameter chosen after seeing test-set performance, the reported gains are conditional on a selection procedure not specified in the method. The paper should report results across a range of γ and state a principled selection rule (e.g., a small validation set).
  4. [§4.1, Appendix F Table 7, Figure 2] The evaluation may not actually compare decoupled vs. entangled prompts. The GSM8k 'task instruction' in Table 7 includes 'the final answer must be only a number', which is itself a format constraint, and the NL format instruction specifies 'The final answer is ...'. If DECO-G uses the same task instruction, the LLM is still told the output format, contrary to the paper's claim that it receives only task-specific information. If DECO-G uses a stripped prompt, that prompt is not shown. The exact DECO-G prompt for each task must be specified and shown to be free of format instructions; otherwise, the source of the gains is confounded with prompt differences.
minor comments (5)
  1. [§4.1, §5.2] Inconsistent notation: Section 4.1 says 'raise the control factor λ' while the method and Section 5.2 use γ. Also 'tamplate' should be 'template'.
  2. [§3.3, Eq. (6)] The conditional order is written inconsistently: Eq. (5) and the text use PFEM(α|xt,x<t), while Eq. (6) writes PFEM(α|x<t,xt). Align the notation.
  3. [Table 2] The Qwen3-8B JSON row reports '3.01' in the AI+ column; Table 5 shows the correct value is 30.1. This typo should be corrected.
  4. [§2.2, §5.1] Typos: 'langauge' in §2.2 and 'encuraging' in §5.1. The paper would also benefit from proofreading of hyphenation and spacing in the appendix.
  5. [Appendix H] The statement that empty-input HMM scores are reported 'in accordance with the distillation objective' is confusing given §3.1's 'instruction-aware' framing. Add a sentence explaining why the prompt is omitted at inference despite being used during distillation.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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The method rests on an HMM proxy trained on generic instruction data and on the assumption that format constraints can be separated from task solving. The main free parameters are γ, h, k, and the distillation corpus size. No new physical or theoretical entities are introduced; the FEM is a software component, not an invented entity.

free parameters (4)
  • Steering strength γ = γ=1 for Llama, γ=2 for Qwen
    Chosen per model family; the paper justifies via an entropy hypothesis but reports no held-out validation. The same γ is applied across tasks for Qwen, and γ=2 was set after observing γ=1 underperformed on GSM8k.
  • HMM hidden state size h = 4096
    Fixed by design; no sensitivity analysis is presented. Larger h raises the cost of the state-transition computation.
  • Pruning top-k = k=200 (top 5% of hidden states)
    Chosen to retain ≈98% probability mass; only one threshold is tested, and the effect on downstream accuracy is reported only for GSM8k.
  • HMM distillation corpus size = 1M completions from 1,000 Natural-Instructions-v2 prompts
    An arbitrary large scale; no study of how control quality varies with distillation data size.
axioms (4)
  • domain assumption An HMM distilled on generic instruction-following responses, run with empty input, is a sufficient proxy for the target-task-conditioned LLM distribution for estimating format compliance.
    Invoked in Section 3.1 and Appendix H; the HMM ignores the actual task prompt, so the lookahead is not conditioned on the specific problem.
  • domain assumption Task instructions and format constraints can be cleanly separated without loss.
    Central design premise; contradicted by the GSM8k task prompts in Table 7, which include 'the final answer must be only a number' inside the task instruction.
  • standard math The trie-based DFA construction correctly encodes all valid format-compliant sequences.
    Section 3.2; needed for the 100% format-compliance guarantee. No formal correctness proof is given.
  • standard math The backward recurrence for marginalizing the HMM over the DFA is correct.
    Taken from Zhang et al. (2024) and reproduced in Appendix B, Eq. (9); the paper does not prove it independently.

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Large language models (LLMs) are increasingly adept at solving complex problems, such as mathematical reasoning and automatic evaluation. However, performance often degrades when prompts intertwine task instructions with rigid formatting requirements. This entanglement creates competing goals for the model, hindering its reasoning capabilities. To address this, we introduce Deco-G, a decoding framework that explicitly decouples format adherence from problem solving. Deco-G delegates format adherence to a separate Format Estimation Module (FEM), which performs probabilistic lookahead to estimate future format compliance rate and reweighs token probabilities, allowing the LLM to focus solely on task resolution. To make this approach both practical and efficient, we introduce three key innovations: instruction-aware distillation, a flexible trie-building algorithm, and HMM state pruning. Experiments across mathematical reasoning, event argument extraction, and LLM-as-a-judge demonstrate that Deco-G constantly gains over prompting or structured generation baselines, with guaranteed format compliance. We release our code at https://github.com/haikangdeng/deco-g.

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Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: Example of GSM8k responses. LLM prompted without format constraints gets the correct [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p001_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: DECO-G decouples task and format—prompting LLM with task-only information and sending format constraints to FEM. DECO-G decodes from the posterior constructed by multiplying LLM token probabilities with FEM estimated satisfaction rate. Probabilistic reasoning over logical constraints. The core idea of these prior frameworks is to use the TPM to perform a probabilistic lookahead—that is, to efficiently comp… view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: DECO-G steers Llama to generate predefined template “The final answer is ...” by boosting probabilities of template tokens. Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct Qwen2.5-7B-Instruct Qwen3-8B 0.0 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.7 Entropy (bits) NL NL-S JSON JSON-S Deco-G NL NL-S JSON JSON-S Deco-G NL NL-S JSON JSON-S Deco-G Comparison of Model Entropy [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p017_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: LLM’s token-level entropy for different models and methods. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p017_4.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: Average retention rate (of total mass) over [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p018_5.png] view at source ↗

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