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Grazing Collisions of Gravitational Shock Waves and Entropy Production in Heavy Ion Collision

High Energy Physics - Theory · Submitted 9 Feb 2009 · 35 references

Pith's verdict: The non-central trapped surface in AdS5 is a real addition and the existence of a critical impact parameter looks solid, but the advertised exponent 0.37 is the least supported number in the paper.

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CitationEdward Shuryak, Shu Lin. "Grazing Collisions of Gravitational Shock Waves and Entropy Production in Heavy Ion Collision." arXiv:0902.1508 (2009). https://pith.science/paper/6ECVUFKH
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Two colliding gravitational shock waves in Anti-de Sitter space only merge into a black hole if they are aimed within a critical offset, and that offset grows with collision energy.

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The paper asks a sharp question about the dual-gravity picture of a heavy ion collision: when two sheets of energy pass through each other off-center, does a horizon still form? Extending a known central-collision calculation, the authors solve for the marginally trapped surface of two delta-function shock waves in five-dimensional Anti-de Sitter space at nonzero impact parameter $b$, and find that the surface exists only up to a critical value $b_c(E)$; beyond it, no horizon, and in the dual language no thermalization. The critical value is reported as a power law, $b_c/L = 1.07 (G_5 E/L^2)^{0.37}$, over the energies they simulate. They also solve a simpler wall-on-wall collision exactly, recovering the same $E^{2/3}$ entropy growth found for central point shocks. The paper closes by arguing that the literal reading of this model is wrong in detail but possibly right in spirit: the bulk scale should track parton density rather than nucleus size, and the disappearance of the horizon may correspond to the rapid change of collision regime seen in peripheral heavy ion data.

What carries the argument

The load-bearing device is a reformulation of the trapped-surface boundary value problem as a Fredholm integral equation of the first kind. The conditions $ (D - 3/L^2)(Psi_i - Phi_i) = 0 $ inside the would-be trapped region, with $Psi_i = 0$ on its boundary $C$ and the matching condition $nabla Psi_1 cdot nabla Psi_2 = 4$ on $C$, are converted by Green's identity into a surface integral over $C$ using the known Green's function of hyperbolic three-space, $G = -(1/4pi L), e^{2u}/sinh u$ with $cosh u = 1 + ((z-z')^2 + (x_perp - x_perp')^2)/(2 z z')$. The unknown boundary is parametrized as $r = rho(theta)$ with axial symmetry, the integral is discretized on 199 points in $theta$, and the shape is iterated until $B_1 B_2 = 4$ holds; the logarithmically divergent diagonal element is handled by least-squares extraction of $ln|theta-theta'|$ and constant coefficients. The critical impact parameter is then identified as the point where the gradient of the mismatch with respect to the shape diverges. A separate exactly solvable wall-on-wall case, sourced by a delta function at fixed bulk depth $z_0$, reduces to a one-dimensional problem whose solution gives $z_a + z_b = 8 pi G_5 sqrt{E_1 E_2}/L$ and an entropy per transverse area scaling as $(G_5 sqrt{E_1 E_2})^{2/3}$.

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Core claim

For two shock waves of equal invariant energy $E$ colliding with transverse offset $b$ in $AdS_5$, a marginally trapped surface at the moment of collision exists only for $b$ below a critical value $b_c(E)$. The authors locate this boundary numerically for energies $G_5E/L^2$ from $0.1$ to $100$, and report that the critical impact parameter follows a power law $b_c/L = 1.07 (G_5 E/L^2)^{0.37}$ (their Eq. 49 and Fig. 2), so that $b_c$ grows with collision energy and with the size scale of the colliding object. The critical surface itself does not scale with energy in spherical coordinates; instead it becomes increasingly elongated along the axis of mismatch as the energy rises. Since the area of the trapped surface bounds the entropy produced, the disappearance of the surface at $b_c$ means entropy production switches off discontinuously rather than tapering away, which the authors present as the Anti-de Sitter counterpart of the critical impact parameter found long ago for shock collisions in flat space.

Load-bearing premise

The load-bearing premise is that a critical offset computed for infinitely thin delta-function shocks in Anti-de Sitter space, with the bulk scale set to $z_0 = L$, can be meaningfully compared with a critical centrality in a real nucleus-nucleus collision.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • In the dual description, thermalization in a grazing collision is not a gradual weakening but a threshold: below $b_c$ a horizon forms and entropy is produced, above it nothing does.
  • Because $b_c$ grows with energy, the same nuclear overlap that thermalizes at high collision energy can fail to thermalize at low energy, giving an energy-dependent boundary between hydrodynamical and non-hydrodynamical collisions.
  • The trapped-surface area still provides a lower bound on produced entropy at any impact parameter below $b_c$, so the entropy as a function of centrality can be computed once $E$ and $b$ are fixed.
  • The wall-on-wall solution gives a clean analytic benchmark with the same $E^{2/3}$ entropy growth as the point-shock case, useful for testing numerical schemes built for more realistic sources.

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Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • If the threshold is real, the experimentally cleanest signature would be an energy-dependent, not participant-number-dependent, sharpening in charged multiplicity per participant as centrality decreases; the paper notes the grazing multiplicity data needed for this do not yet exist.
  • The authors' own argument that the bulk scale should be tied to the saturation scale rather than the nucleus radius suggests a concrete recalibration: run the same integral-equation solver with $z_0$ set by $Q_s$ and check whether the resulting $b_c$ lands near the centrality where elliptic flow departs from hydrodynamic predictions.
  • The quoted exponent $0.37$ differs from an earlier estimate of $1/6$ at asymptotically large energy; a scan to much larger $G_5E/L^2$ would distinguish a genuine crossover in the exponent from a fit valid only over the simulated range.
Original abstract

AdS/CFT correspondence is now widely used for study of strongly coupled plasmas, such as produced in ultrarelativistic heavy ion collisions at RHIC. While properties of equilibrated plasma and small deviations from equilibrium are by now reasonably well understood, its initial formation and thermal equilibration is much more challenging issue which remains to be studied. In the dual gravity language, these problems are related to formation of bulk black holes, and trapped surfaces we study in this work is a way to estimate the properties (temperature and entropy) of such black hole. Extending the work by Gubser et al, we find numerically trapped surfaces for non-central collision of shock waves with different energies. We observe a critical impact parameter, beyond which the trapped surface does not exist: and we argue that there are experimental indications for similar critical impact parameter in real collisions. We also present a simple solvable example of shock wave collision: wall-on-wall collision. The applicability of this approach to heavy ion collision is critically discussed.

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AdS/CFT correspondence is now widely used for study of strongly coupled plasmas, such as produced in ultrarelativistic heavy ion collisions at RHIC. While properties of equilibrated plasma and small deviations from equilibrium are by now reasonably well understood, its initial formation and thermal equilibration is much more challenging issue which remains to be studied. In the dual gravity language, these problems are related to formation of bulk black holes, and trapped surfaces we study in this work is a way to estimate the properties (temperature and entropy) of such black hole. Extending the work by Gubser et al, we find numerically trapped surfaces for non-central collision of shock waves with different energies. We observe a critical impact parameter, beyond which the trapped surface does not exist: and we argue that there are experimental indications for similar critical impact parameter in real collisions. We also present a simple solvable example of shock wave collision: wall-on-wall collision. The applicability of this approach to heavy ion collision is critically discussed.

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s4 We observe a critical impact parameter, beyond which the trapped surface does not exist: and we argue that there are experimental indications for similar critical impact parameter in real collisions. result 0.92 0.88 0.42 asserted 0.55
s5 We also present a simple solvable example of shock wave collision: wall-on-wall collision. contribution 0.89 0.89 0.03 asserted 0.99
s6 The applicability of this approach to heavy ion collision is critically discussed. limitation 0.97 0.64 0.04 asserted 0.51

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Figure 1. (left)The shapes of C (the trapped surface at u = v = 0) at G5E L2 = 1. The impact parameters used in the plot are 0.4L, 0.6L, 0.8L, 1.0L, 1.1L, 1.14L from the outer to the inner. The innermost shape being the critical trapped surface. (right)The shapes of C (the trapped surface at u = v = 0) at G5E L2 = 100. The impact parameters used in the plot are 1.0L, 2.0L, 3.0L, 4.0L, 5.0L, 5.3L from the outer to the inner. The innermost shape being the critical trapped surface. As collision energy grows, the trapped surface gets elongated in the axis of mismatch. Strapped = 2A 4G5 = 1 2G
Figure 2. The log-log plot of critical impact parameter vers
Figure 3. The scaled entropy 2G5S/L3 (the area of C) as a function of the impact parameter scaled b/L. The energy used is G5E L2 = 100, where L 3 G5 = 2N2 c π higher momenta (UV). First of all this is physically different from the heavy ion collisions, in which case the initial wave function have partons well localized near the so called “saturation scale”, from which the equilibration domain (trapped surface) propagates both into small z (UV) and large z (IR) directions. Second, we think it is also inconsistent: a function growing with z cannot be considered as a small perturbation to th
Figure 4. The scaled entropy per transverse area 2G5s L2 (the area of C per transverse area) as a function of scaled effective colliding energy G5E/L2 , where L 3 G5 = 2N2 c π . framework. However now, near the end of this work, we would like to address a wider issues of applicability limits of such approach, as well as the best strategy to use it for practical problems. Gubser et al [4] have applied the gravitational collision scenario literally, selecting initial conditions at time long before nuclei collide. More specifically, they have (i) tuned the scale L or z0 of the bulk collidi
Figure 5. (left) PHOBOS data [25] on integrated number of cha

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  • Numerical analysis of the formation of a trapped surface in the shock wave collisions in AdS was performed in [ref] , see also [ref] for analytic results, and it supports this conclusion, see formula (3.19) in [ref] .

    Energy correlations and Planckian collisions · Planckian energies · 0.99

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  • Lately the problem of thermalization has been studied in the strong coupling framework of the Anti-de Sitter space/conformal field theory (AdS/CFT) correspondence [ref] with the goal of learning about the dynamics of the strongly-coupled QCD medium by studying the strongly coupled medium in $N =4$ super-Yang-Mills (SYM) theory [ref] .

    Toward Thermalization in Heavy Ion Collisions at Strong Coupling · Introduction · 0.98

  • Initially this process has been considered starting from the AdS background [ref] .

    Holographic Thermalization in Quark Confining Background · Introduction · 0.90

  • Due to the Anti-de Sitter space/conformal field theory (AdS/CFT) correspondence [ref] , the problem of two colliding gravitational shock waves, while an important problem from the standpoint of gravity theory [ref] , may also be relevant for high energy hadronic and nuclear collisions at strong coupling [ref] .

    Asymmetric Collision of Two Shock Waves in AdS_5 · Introduction · 0.97

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