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B -> K^* Form Factors from Flavor Data to QCD and Back

High Energy Physics - Phenomenology · Submitted 20 Aug 2013 · 75 references

Pith's verdict: A careful, useful update to the data-extracted B→K* form factor program — but the abstract's A_FB/P'_5 'agreement' is a consistency check of the OPE, not an independent form factor test.

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CitationChristian Hambrock, Gudrun Hiller, Roman Zwicky, Stefan Schacht. "B -> K^* Form Factors from Flavor Data to QCD and Back." arXiv:1308.4379 (2013). https://pith.science/paper/HOPLKHUO
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The paper claims

The hadronic form factors that blur predictions for the rare decay $B^0_s$ into a $K^*$ and a lepton pair can themselves be measured from that decay's angular data, and the resulting Standard Model predictions for two benchmark observables,

The reading

The paper asks whether the hadronic form factors that smear predictions for the rare decay $B^0_s$ into a $K^*$ and a lepton pair can be measured from the same decay data, instead of being imported from lattice QCD or light-cone sum rules. The lever is that at low hadronic recoil the decay amplitudes factorize into a polarization-independent short-distance coefficient times a polarization-dependent form factor, so three angular observables — $F_L$, $A_T^{(2)}$ and $P'_4$ — depend on form factor ratios alone. Fitting those ratios to the published BaBar, CDF, LHCb, ATLAS and CMS measurements, with heavy-quark symmetry relations and updated sum-rule ratios added as constraints, yields $V(0)/A_1(0)=1.31$ and $A_2(0)/A_1(0)=0.83$ at roughly the ten-percent level. Feeding the ratios back into the forward-backward asymmetry $A_{FB}$ and the angular observable $P'_5$ — neither of which entered the fit — reproduces the measured values, so the Standard Model survives an out-of-sample check at low recoil.

What carries the argument

The load-bearing mechanism is the low-recoil operator product expansion, which at leading order in $1/m_b$ writes each transversity amplitude as $A_i^{L,R}(q^2) = C^{L,R}(q^2) f_i(q^2)$ up to corrections of order $m_b^{-1}$, with $C^{L,R}$ independent of the $K^*$ polarization. Because the short-distance coefficients cancel in ratios, the angular observables reduce to functions of the form factor ratios alone: $F_L = f_0^2/(f_0^2+f_1^2+f_0^2)$, and similarly for $A_T^{(2)}$ and $P'_4$. The second piece is the double ratio $R=(V/A_1)/(T_1/T_2)$, shown to equal $1+O(1/m_b)$ both at maximum recoil (from large-energy symmetry relations) and at low recoil (from the Isgur-Wise relations), which stitches the two kinematic ends together. The form factors themselves are parametrized by a $z$-series expansion truncated at first or second order, with the endpoint relations $F_L=1/3$, $A_T^{(2)}=-1$, $P'_4=1/2$ imposed exactly.

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Core claim

The central claim is that form factor ratios in $B^0_s$ to $K^*$ transitions can be extracted from $B^0_s$ to $K^*$ dilepton data with enough control to be useful, and that the extracted ratios agree with lattice and light-cone sum rule determinations. The authors improve their earlier extraction by adding heavy-quark symmetry constraints, by studying how the low-recoil fit talks to the large-recoil region, and by recomputing the sum-rule ratios with correlated uncertainties, obtaining $R(0)=V(0)/A_1(0)=1.31$ and $R'(0)=A_2(0)/A_1(0)=0.83$. They argue that the double ratio $R=(V/A_1)/(T_1/T_2)$ equals one up to corrections of order $1/m_b$ at both maximum and low recoil, which is what licenses the extrapolation across the whole dilepton mass range. The payoff is that predictions for $A_{FB}$ and $P'_5$ built from the fitted ratios match the world averages, which the authors read as evidence that any new physics in the semileptonic short-distance coefficients must be small — in particular, explanations of the large-recoil $P'_5$ anomaly through an order-one shift in the Wilson coefficient $C_9$ alone are strongly disfavored.

Load-bearing premise

Everything rests on the low-recoil operator product expansion: that the decay amplitudes factorize into a polarization-independent short-distance piece times a form factor, up to corrections of only a few percent, and that no sizable right-handed current breaks that factorization.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • The data-extracted ratios give benchmarks that lattice QCD and light-cone sum rules must reproduce; the updated sum-rule values sit about 7% below earlier predictions, mainly because of revised hadronic inputs and correlated continuum thresholds.
  • Standard Model predictions for $A_{FB}$ and $P'_5$ at low recoil tighten relative to earlier estimates, with the quoted uncertainties coming from form factors alone and the short-distance coefficient uncertainty subleading at about 2%.
  • Explanations of the large-recoil $P'_5$ anomaly that rely on an order-one new-physics contribution to $C_9$ alone are strongly disfavored, since the low-recoil data are consistent with the Standard Model.
  • A roughly $2\sigma$ discrepancy in $P'_4$ in the lower dilepton-mass bin cannot be accommodated within the operator product expansion and is flagged for further experimental investigation.
  • The fit scenarios combining data with large-energy or sum-rule input (SE2 LEL and SE2 LCSR) are put forward as the best currently available for low-recoil phenomenology, while a combined fit with lattice input previews the precision reachable with future data.

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  • If the double ratio $R$ really equals one at both kinematic ends, it becomes a clean null test: a measured deviation at intermediate dilepton mass would signal either a breakdown of quark-hadron duality or a right-handed current, independently of the form factor normalization.
  • The agreement on $A_{FB}$ and $P'_5$ is presently a check on the operator product expansion more than on new physics; once lattice input shrinks the error on $V/A_1$, the same comparison turns into a genuine search for shifts in the short-distance coefficients.
  • The same helicity factorization should hold for other $b \to s$ transitions such as $B_s \to \phi \ell^+\ell^-$ and $B \to K \ell^+\ell^-$, so the method offers cross-checks in hadronic environments with different systematic uncertainties.
  • Because the extraction is binned, the residual short-distance dependence that survives binning is a small but real systematic; finer bins would trade statistical power for a cleaner factorization test.
Original abstract

Sufficient control of transition form factors is a vital ingredient for the precision flavor programs including the nearer term searches at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) and the forthcoming Belle II experiment. We improve on existing methods to extract B -> K^* form factor ratios at low hadronic recoil from B -> K^* l^+ l^- data on the angular observables F_L, A_T^(2) and P'_4 by adding heavy quark symmetry-based constraints and by investigating the cross talk between low and large recoil. The data-extracted form factor ratios i) provide benchmarks for the lattice and light cone sum rule predictions, the latter of which have been updated including improved uncertainty estimations and ii) allow to improve the predictions for benchmark observables. We find that present data on the forward-backward asymmetry A_FB and the angular observable P'_5 at low recoil are in good agreement with the Standard Model.

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Sufficient control of transition form factors is a vital ingredient for the precision flavor programs including the nearer term searches at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) and the forthcoming Belle II experiment. We improve on existing methods to extract B -> K^* form factor ratios at low hadronic recoil from B -> K^* l^+ l^- data on the angular observables F_L, A_T^(2) and P'_4 by adding heavy quark symmetry-based constraints and by investigating the cross talk between low and large recoil. The data-extracted form factor ratios i) provide benchmarks for the lattice and light cone sum rule predictions, the latter of which have been updated including improved uncertainty estimations and ii) allow to improve the predictions for benchmark observables. We find that present data on the forward-backward asymmetry A_FB and the angular observable P'_5 at low recoil are in good agreement with the Standard Model.

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45 later papers cite it

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  • Employed an uncertainty estimate from this paper for the ratios V/A_1 of 8% and A_2/A_1 of 10%.

    B->K\pi ll in and outside the K* window (2015) (same authors) · 1.00 · paraphrased: the licence does not allow quoting

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  • Said that the good agreement in the observables usable to extract form factor ratios (F_L, S_3, S_4) that this paper suggests indicates the low q^2 OPE appears to work within present uncertainties.

    B->K\pi ll in and outside the K* window (2015) (same authors) · 0.98 · paraphrased: the licence does not allow quoting

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  • We use the $B→K^∗$ form factors given in Ref. [ref] , which were obtained from a combined fit [ref] of lattice QCD [ref] and light-cone sum rules (LCSR) results [ref] .

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  • Specifically, the form factors are taken from [ref] as compiled in [ref] , and we employ an uncertainty estimate for the ratios $V/A_1$ of $8%$ and $A_2/A_1$ of $10%$ from [ref] .

    B->K\pi ll in and outside the K* window · The $B̅→K̅^*ℓℓ$ form factors · 1.00

  • Employing the form factor ratios from light cone sum rules at $q^2=0$ given in [ref] we estimate roughly $O(5 %)$ uncertainty in $p$ from form factors.

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  • The good agreement in the observables which can be used to extract form factor ratios ($F_L, S_3, S_4$) [ref] suggests that within present uncertainties the low $q^2$ OPE appears to work, specifically that the binning is sufficient and non-universal $c̅ c$-effects are sufficiently small.

    B->K\pi ll in and outside the K* window · Comparison of $B̅ →K̅^* μμ$ data with SM predictions · 0.98

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  • Recently, a significant amount of work has been devoted to the study of $b→sℓℓ$ processes [ref] , where experimental progress has been outstanding (see e.g. Refs. [ref] ).

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  • Consistent SM and new physics interpretations of the measured deviation in the $B →K^* ℓ^+ℓ^-$ mode have been discussed in a large number of references [ref] .

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  • It should be emphasized at this point that these analyses are subject to theoretical uncertainties, which have been discussed at length in [ref] and it remains to be seen whether the observed anomalies are only result of statistical fluctuations and/or underestimated error uncertainties.

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  • Following Ref. [ref] , we parametrize the transversity form factors $f_i$, $i=⊥,0,∥$ in $B →K^* ℓ^+ ℓ^-$ decays through a Series Expansion (SE) [ref] [equation] in the variable $z$ defined as [equation] Here, $t$ denotes the analytic continuation of $q^2$ to the complex plane, $t_±=(m_B ±m_K^*)^2$ and $t_0$ is a free parameter in the range $0 ≤t_0<t_+$ for which a common choice is $t_0 = t_opt$ with $t_opt=t_+ (1 - √(1 - t_-/t_+))$ [ref] .

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  • Following Ref. [ref] , we parametrize the transversity form factors $f_i$, $i=⊥,0,∥$ in $B →K^* ℓ^+ ℓ^-$ decays through a Series Expansion (SE) [ref] [equation] in the variable $z$ defined as [equation] Here, $t$ denotes the analytic continuation of $q^2$ to the complex plane, $t_±=(m_B ±m_K^*)^2$ and $t_0$ is a free parameter in the range $0 ≤t_0<t_+$ for which a common choice is $t_0 = t_opt$ with $t_opt=t_+ (1 - √(1 - t_-/t_+))$ [ref] .

    Dispersive Bounds on the Shape of B -> D^(*) l nu Form Factors · Form factor series expansion · 0.98

  • Following Ref. [ref] , we parametrize the transversity form factors $f_i$, $i=⊥,0,∥$ in $B →K^* ℓ^+ ℓ^-$ decays through a Series Expansion (SE) [ref] [equation] in the variable $z$ defined as [equation] Here, $t$ denotes the analytic continuation of $q^2$ to the complex plane, $t_±=(m_B ±m_K^*)^2$ and $t_0$ is a free parameter in the range $0 ≤t_0<t_+$ for which a common choice is $t_0 = t_opt$ with $t_opt=t_+ (1 - √(1 - t_-/t_+))$ [ref] .

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