REVIEW 3 major objections 5 minor 2 cited by
LLMs can see and hear without any training
T0 review · 3 major / 5 minor · reviewed 2026-08-10 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read A scoring loop gives LLMs sight and hearing with zero training.
desk verdict Simple, broad test-time search method with real ablations, but the abstract's SOTA claim is contradicted by its own Table 1 and the video/audio evidence is thin. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The load-bearing object is the iterative GENERATOR–SCORER loop. For each test sample, an LLM serves as GENERATOR, producing a candidate set of text outputs such as captions, rewritten prompts, or editing instructions; an off-the-shelf scorer, such as SigLIP for images, ViCLIP for video, ImageBind for audio, PickScore for generated images, or Gram-matrix distance for style, assigns each candidate a scalar score against the test sample; the top-K scored candidates are rendered as text and returned to the LLM as feedback, and the loop repeats until convergence or N steps. For captioning tasks the loop starts from a large bootstrap pool of candidate captions generated from class labels before the sample is seen. The loop converts any scalar evaluator into a reward signal for a text-only LLM, which is why the same machinery can cross tasks and modalities.
What would settle it
Construct a test set whose ground-truth captions exclusively describe concepts absent from the class labels used to seed the initial candidate pool; if MILS cannot produce a correct caption on any such sample after full iteration, the capacity is bounded by the seed vocabulary, not emergent perception.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
On the paper's own terms, the discovery is that a blind and deaf LLM can acquire multimodal perception and generation abilities purely through an inference-time optimization loop. The same GENERATOR–SCORER architecture, with different off-the-shelf models plugged in, yields faithful image, video, and audio captions without any captioning-specific training; improves human-rated quality and text faithfulness of text-to-image models by discovering prompt rewrites; performs style transfer by minimizing Gram-matrix distances; and supports cross-modal arithmetic by turning embeddings into text. The paper frames this as a new instance of emergent zero-shot behavior, where the model generalizes to new tasks and modalities, not merely to new data.
Load-bearing premise
MILS only works if the initial candidate pool already contains plausible outputs for the test sample and the scorer ranks them truthfully; if either fails, the feedback loop can reshuffle but cannot invent the right answer.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- Captioning images, video, and audio requires no captioning data, only a frozen LLM and a suitable similarity scorer, so new languages or modalities can be added by swapping components.
- Text-to-image generation improves at test time through LLM prompt rewriting selected by a human-preference scorer, which could automate a step that usually requires hand-tuned rewrite prompts.
- Because the optimization is gradient-free, multimodal embeddings can be inverted into discrete text and then recombined, enabling operations like audio-plus-image arithmetic that plug into any text-to-image model.
- Downstream metrics and the scorer's own signal rise together over optimization steps and converge in roughly 10 to 20 steps, suggesting the procedure is usable with modest inference-time compute.
- Performance scales with the size of the LLM and the scorer, so future improvements in either component would transfer directly to MILS without retraining.
Reading between the lines
- If MILS is right, the real bottleneck shifts from supervised task training to the coverage of the seed candidate pool and the accuracy of the scorer; the paper's own ablations show final performance rises with initial set size.
- The phrase 'without any training' applies to the MILS loop itself; the underlying LLM and scorers carry pretrained knowledge, so the result is better interpreted as replacing task-specific optimization with generic pretrained components, not as perception from a blank model.
- A testable extension is to make the bootstrap pool sample-dependent, for example by retrieving candidate captions from a text corpus or generating candidates conditioned on a coarse content description; this would separate seed coverage from iterative reasoning and likely raise the ceiling on hard examples.
- Any domain with a cheap scalar evaluator but little paired data, such as robot control with physics simulators, program synthesis with unit tests, or molecule design with docking scores, could inherit the same generate-score-refine strategy without fine-tuning.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper introduces MILS (Multimodal Iterative LLM Solver), a training-free test-time optimization framework in which an LLM acts as a GENERATOR to propose candidate outputs, an off-the-shelf multimodal model acts as a SCORER to evaluate them, and scores are fed back to the LLM to refine the candidates over several iterations. The method is applied to image, video, and audio captioning; text-to-image prompt rewriting; style transfer; and cross-modal arithmetic. The main claims are that MILS exhibits emergent zero-shot generalization to these tasks without task-specific training and that it establishes a new state of the art in emergent zero-shot image, video, and audio captioning.
Significance. If the central claims were substantiated, the work would be significant: it would show that a generic LLM combined with off-the-shelf multimodal scorers can solve a range of multimodal understanding and generation tasks through a simple test-time loop, without any task-specific training or data curation. The paper has welcome strengths: the framework is conceptually simple, it is evaluated across three modalities and several tasks, ablations analyze the effect of optimization steps, initial candidate set size, and choice of GENERATOR/SCORER, and code is released. However, the headline 'new state-of-the-art' claim is directly contradicted by the paper's own Table 1, and the absence of a zero-iteration retrieval control leaves open the possibility that the reported captioning quality is attributable to the pretrained SCORER plus a task-specific text prior rather than to iterative LLM reasoning. These issues are load-bearing for the paper's core claims.
major comments (3)
- [Abstract and Section 4.1, Table 1] The abstract's claim that MILS 'establish[es] a new state-of-the-art on emergent zero-shot image, video and audio captioning' is not supported by the paper's own results. In Table 1, MeaCap (Zeng et al., 2024) achieves higher CIDEr (42.5 vs 33.3), METEOR (16.6 vs 15.0), and SPICE (11.8 vs 9.6) than MILS, with MILS ahead only on BLEU-4 (8.0 vs 7.1). Since the paper itself argues that METEOR and SPICE are the more meaningful metrics for zero-shot captioning, describing MILS as state-of-the-art is inaccurate. The text and abstract should be revised to 'competitive' or the comparison should be extended to include a stronger baseline.
- [Section 4.1, Appendix B.1, Figure 10, Section 5] The central attribution of MILS's captioning performance to the iterative LLM loop is not established because the paper does not report a zero-iteration control. The initial candidate pool is generated from ImageNet or AudioSet class labels before the test sample is seen (Appendix B.1), and the SCORER is a pretrained text-to-modality similarity model. Ranking this pool once with the SCORER and outputting the top candidate would give the lower bound that the iterative loop must beat. Figure 10 shows that final performance is strongly correlated with the initial pool size, and Section 5 concedes that performance is bounded by generator diversity and scorer accuracy. Without this control, the reported captioning quality may be explained by the pretrained SCORER plus a task-specific text prior, rather than by the LLM's multi-step reasoning.
- [Section 4.5] The style transfer experiment is evaluated only qualitatively, with no benchmark or human study, and the SCORER's objective (Gram-matrix distance between VGG features of the generated image and the style image) is the same measure used to select the final output. Because the LLM's edit prompts are optimized to minimize exactly this score, the examples demonstrate convergence of the loss rather than perceptual style transfer quality. An external evaluation, such as a user study or an established style-transfer metric, is needed to support the claim that MILS 'produces accurately stylized images'.
minor comments (5)
- [Section 4.2, Table 2] The text says MILS is 'competitive' with (Nagrani et al., 2022) trained on VideoCC3M, but the CIDEr gap is large (2.3 vs 8.2), so the claim should be qualified or the comparison should be placed in proper context.
- [Figure 9] The axes in Figure 9 are difficult to read, especially the left plot's CLIP similarity scale and the right plot's PickScore scale; larger fonts or labeled ranges would improve clarity.
- [Conclusion] The word 'exhitbits' on page 8 should be corrected to 'exhibits'.
- [Title and Section 1] The phrase 'without any training' in the title and abstract is imprecise, since the system depends on pretrained multimodal scorers (SigLIP, ViCLIP, ImageBind, PickScore) that were trained on large paired datasets; the paper should consistently state that no task-specific training is performed, rather than implying no training at all.
- [Section 4.4] The human evaluation uses majority vote over three annotators; reporting inter-annotator agreement would strengthen the reliability of the reported win rates.
Circularity Check
Central captioning and generation results are externally grounded; only the style-transfer demonstration is circular, since the optimized Gram-matrix objective is also the stated quality measure.
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self definitional
[Section 4.5 (Style Transfer), SCORER paragraph and Results paragraph; see also Section 5 limitation.]
"SCORER. To measure the quality of the style transfer, we use a simple approach to estimate the similarity of colors and textures in the generated image compared to the style image. We use the distance between Gram matrices of the image features... We use MILS to minimize both the style and content losses. Results. Figure 6 shows some sample style transfer results. MILS generalizes to this novel task completely zero-shot and produces accurately stylized images."
For style transfer, the paper's quality measure is the Gram-matrix distance, which is exactly the loss that MILS is run to minimize. The SCORER paragraph says the Gram distance is used 'to measure the quality of style transfer' and then says MILS is used 'to minimize both the style and content losses.' Since the optimization loop is driven by the same function that defines success, any output it selects improves on that measure by construction. No independent metric or human evaluation is reported for this demonstration, so the claimed 'accurately stylized' result does not provide evidence beyond the optimizer's own objective. This is a circumscribed component of the paper, not the captioning or generation core.
full rationale
The captioning results are not circular: the optimization objective (SigLIP, ViCLIP, or ImageBind similarity) differs from the reported evaluation metrics (BLEU, METEOR, CIDEr, SPICE), and MILS is compared against prior zero-shot systems on standard benchmarks. The central 'LLMs can see and hear' claim therefore has independent content, though it is weakened by the absence of a zero-iteration retrieval control: the paper does not report what a single top-1 ranking of the pre-generated candidate pool by the SCORER would achieve, so the specific contribution of the iterative LLM loop over the pretrained scorer and broad text prior is not isolated. That missing baseline is a completeness/attack-surface issue, not circularity. The T2I improvements are externally checked by human raters against the base model, so they are not circular either. There is a minor self-citation of Gandelsman et al. for the initial candidate set and of Girdhar et al. for the term 'emergent zero-shot' and for ImageBind; these are not load-bearing in the sense of forbidding alternatives or supplying the result. The abstract's 'new state-of-the-art' claim is not supported by Table 1, where MeaCap TF exceeds MILS on CIDEr, METEOR, and SPICE, but that is an accuracy/overclaim issue rather than circularity. The only true circular step is the style-transfer demonstration, where the quality measure equals the optimized objective. Score 4 reflects one peripheral self-referential demonstration while the core captioning and generation derivations remain externally grounded.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (4)
- initial_candidate_set_size =
30,000 (image/video); 50,000 (audio)
- top_k_candidates =
50
- optimization_steps =
10 (captioning); 10-20 (generation)
- candidate_prompt_design =
LLM prompt with class labels, 40-50 captions per class
assumptions (4)
- domain assumption LLM can produce diverse, relevant candidate captions from class labels alone
- domain assumption Scoring model similarity is a reliable proxy for caption or prompt quality
- domain assumption The initial candidate set transfers across datasets (ImageNet/COCO, AudioSet/Clotho)
- standard math Automated captioning metrics (BLEU/CIDEr/METEOR/SPICE) are valid for zero-shot evaluation
Cite this review
Pith. "Pith review of LLMs can see and hear without any training." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/VCHEE3M7
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read the original abstract
We present MILS: Multimodal Iterative LLM Solver, a surprisingly simple, training-free approach, to imbue multimodal capabilities into your favorite LLM. Leveraging their innate ability to perform multi-step reasoning, MILS prompts the LLM to generate candidate outputs, each of which are scored and fed back iteratively, eventually generating a solution to the task. This enables various applications that typically require training specialized models on task-specific data. In particular, we establish a new state-of-the-art on emergent zero-shot image, video and audio captioning. MILS seamlessly applies to media generation as well, discovering prompt rewrites to improve text-to-image generation, and even edit prompts for style transfer! Finally, being a gradient-free optimization approach, MILS can invert multimodal embeddings into text, enabling applications like cross-modal arithmetic.
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