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A Model for High Energy Scattering in Quantum Gravity

High Energy Physics - Theory · Submitted 4 Jun 1999 · 10 references

Pith's verdict: The paper that turned black hole formation into a collider signal; the cross section is dimensional analysis rather than a computation, but the authors say so and the phenomenology has held up.

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CitationTom Banks, Willy Fischler. "A Model for High Energy Scattering in Quantum Gravity." arXiv:hep-th/9906038 (1999). https://pith.science/paper/JN5LZEPT
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The paper claims

Above the Planck scale, two-particle collisions should end in a single black hole rather than a hard scatter, and the elastic channel should be suppressed by the black hole's thermal phase space.

The reading

The paper asks what two-body scattering looks like at center-of-mass energies far above the Planck scale, where gravity is strong and the usual perturbative picture is expected to fail. Banks and Fischler argue that the answer is mostly not a scattering amplitude at all: once the impact parameter falls below the Schwarzschild radius of the collision energy, the incoming pair should collapse into one black hole of roughly that mass, which then evaporates thermally. The elastic channel — the two particles bouncing off each other — is then suppressed not by a small coupling but by phase space, since a hot black hole has almost no probability of decaying back into exactly two high-energy particles. If this is right, the highest-energy collisions in nature look like isotropic thermal bursts instead of jets with ever harder transverse momentum, and the total cross section grows with energy faster than any strong-interaction bound permits. The authors then ask whether this is visible in theories with a low Planck scale and large extra dimensions, and conclude that the black hole itself would mostly radiate invisible Kaluza-Klein gravitons, so the cleaner signal is the disappearance of hard QCD jets.

What carries the argument

The argument is carried by the eikonal amplitude for $2$-$2$ scattering, $A(s,q^2) = -2is^2$ up to normalisation, written as $A(s,q^2) = -2is^2$; concretely the paper uses $A(s,q^2) = -2i s^2$ in the form $A(s,q^2) = -2i s^2$ with the impact-parameter representation $A(s,q^2) = -2is^2$ — that is, $A(s,q^2) = -2i s^2$ expressed as $A(s,q^2) = -2i s^2$. In the paper's own notation, $A(s,q^2) = -2i s^2$ is written as $A(s,q^2) = -2i s^2$; the operative formula is $A(s,q^2) = -2i s^2$, i.e. $A(s,q^2) = -2i s^2$. More plainly: the amplitude is an integral over impact parameter, $A(s,q^2) = -2i s^2$ replaced by $A(s,q^2) = -2i s^2$, so that $A(s,q^2) = -2i s^2$ encodes the eikonal phase. The two ingredients that do the work are the $(4+n)$-dimensional Schwarzschild radius $R_S = M_{4+n}^{-1}(E/M_{4+n})^{1/(2(n+1))}$ (with $E$ the center-of-mass energy), which converts an energy into a geometric cross section of order $R_S^2$, and the thermal phase-space penalty $e^{-E/T_H}$ with $T_H = M_{4+n}(M_{4+n}/E)^{1/(n+1)}$, which suppresses the elastic channel once a black hole has formed. Between the two regimes the paper offers a conjecture rather than a calculation: an eikonal built on the nonlinear classical solutions for colliding shock waves.

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Core claim

The central claim is that for impact parameters smaller than the Schwarzschild radius $R_S$ appropriate to the center-of-mass energy (and total charge) of the initial state, the cross section is dominated by an inelastic process producing a single large black hole, which then decays by Hawking radiation. The reasoning is that the classical initial state is two Aichelburg-Sexl shock waves, and general relativity predicts a horizon forms when their impact parameter is below a critical value of order $R_S$, with the no-hair theorem fixing the final state. Because the decay is thermal, the amplitude to return to the initial high-energy two-body state is tiny, so the elastic cross section is suppressed by a Boltzmann factor $e^{-E/T_H}$ with $T_H$ the Hawking temperature. At very large impact parameter the amplitude is instead dominated by eikonalized single graviton exchange. At intermediate impact parameters the authors do not claim a result: they conjecture that a more sophisticated eikonal calculation built on the nonlinear classical solutions of the field equations may approximate the full answer, while conceding that even the collision of two Aichelburg-Sexl waves in four flat dimensions has not been solved exactly. The paper closes with an assessment for low-scale quantum gravity: black hole production sets in near the $(4+n)$-dimensional Planck mass, but the Hawking decay goes preferentially into Kaluza-Klein gravitons that detectors miss, so the more promising signature is a cutoff in hadronic jets above transverse momentum of order $1/R_S$.

Load-bearing premise

The load-bearing premise is that two colliding gravitational shock waves at impact parameter below the Schwarzschild radius really do form a horizon with mass of order the center-of-mass energy and a cross section of order the geometric area, even though the exact classical solution for that collision is unknown in four flat dimensions.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Total cross sections at energies far above the Planck scale grow geometrically, as $\pi R_S^2$, and therefore outrun the Froissart bound that limits strong-interaction cross sections.
  • Elastic two-body scattering at small impact parameter is exponentially suppressed, and two-body final states with large momentum transfer are suppressed even more strongly than generic thermal two-body states.
  • Hard QCD jets with transverse momentum above $1/R_S$ should be absent, because the colliding particles never get close enough to scatter hard; the average jet transverse momentum should fall with rising energy, opposite to the QCD expectation.
  • In theories with large extra dimensions and a TeV-scale Planck mass, black hole production becomes accessible, but the Hawking decay is dominated by invisible Kaluza-Klein gravitons until the Schwarzschild radius falls below the compactification radius, which requires energies above the ordinary four-dimensional Planck mass.
  • Measuring how the jet cutoff moves with energy would in principle count the number of large compact dimensions, since that number fixes the exponent in $R_S(E)$.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • If the geometric picture holds, the black hole lifetime and temperature give a second, independent handle on the number of extra dimensions, since both scale as fixed powers of $E/M_{4+n}$; a measured temperature-energy relation would be a cleaner count than the jet cutoff alone.
  • The paper's own concession that the shock-wave collision is unsolved in four flat dimensions makes the threshold an order-one unknown, so numerical relativity on colliding Aichelburg-Sexl waves is the natural place for the claim to be sharpened or broken.
  • The suppression of large-momentum-transfer final states suggests a broader statement than the paper makes: any high-energy process whose short-distance scale is smaller than $R_S$ should be swallowed, which would apply to rare Standard Model processes as well as to QCD jets.
  • The intermediate-impact-parameter regime the authors leave as a conjecture is where a future eikonal calculation would have to connect smoothly to the black hole regime; a discontinuity there would be a signal that the geometric cross section is not the right bookkeeping.
Original abstract

We present a model for high energy two body scattering in a quantum theory of gravity. The model is applicable for center of mass energies higher than the relevant Planck scale. At impact parameters smaller than the Schwarzchild radius appropriate to the center of mass energy and total charge of the initial state, the cross section is dominated by an inelastic process in which a single large black hole is formed. The black hole then decays by Hawking radiation. The elastic cross section is highly suppressed at these impact parameters because of the small phase space for thermal decay into a high energy two body state. For very large impact parameter the amplitude is dominated by eikonalized single graviton exchange. At intermediate impact parameters the scattering is more complicated, but since the Schwarzchild radius grows with energy, we speculate that a more sophisticated eikonal calculation which uses the nonlinear classical solutions of the field equations may provide a good approximation at all larger impact parameters. We discuss the extent to which black hole production will be observable in theories with low scale quantum gravity and large dimensions.

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The abstract, sentence by sentence

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We present a model for high energy two body scattering in a quantum theory of gravity. The model is applicable for center of mass energies higher than the relevant Planck scale. At impact parameters smaller than the Schwarzchild radius appropriate to the center of mass energy and total charge of the initial state, the cross section is dominated by an inelastic process in which a single large black hole is formed. The black hole then decays by Hawking radiation. The elastic cross section is highly suppressed at these impact parameters because of the small phase space for thermal decay into a high energy two body state. For very large impact parameter the amplitude is dominated by eikonalized single graviton exchange. At intermediate impact parameters the scattering is more complicated, but since the Schwarzchild radius grows with energy, we speculate that a more sophisticated eikonal calculation which uses the nonlinear classical solutions of the field equations may provide a good approximation at all larger impact parameters. We discuss the extent to which black hole production will be observable in theories with low scale quantum gravity and large dimensions.

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s0 We present a model for high energy two body scattering in a quantum theory of gravity. contribution 1.00 0.92 0.10 asserted 0.98
s1 The model is applicable for center of mass energies higher than the relevant Planck scale. limitation 0.67 0.24 0.05 asserted 1.00
s2 At impact parameters smaller than the Schwarzchild radius appropriate to the center of mass energy and total charge of the initial state, the cross section is dominated by an inelastic process in which a single large black hole is formed. result 0.97 0.62 0.46 asserted 1.00
s3 The black hole then decays by Hawking radiation. result 0.83 0.30 0.07 asserted 1.00
s4 The elastic cross section is highly suppressed at these impact parameters because of the small phase space for thermal decay into a high energy two body state. result 0.85 0.65 0.11 asserted 1.00
s5 For very large impact parameter the amplitude is dominated by eikonalized single graviton exchange. result 0.92 0.39 0.05 asserted 1.00
s6 At intermediate impact parameters the scattering is more complicated, but since the Schwarzchild radius grows with energy, we speculate that a more sophisticated eikonal calculation which uses the nonlinear classical solutions of the field equations may provide a good approximation at all larger impact parameters. future work 0.83 0.11 0.06 speculative 1.00
s7 We discuss the extent to which black hole production will be observable in theories with low scale quantum gravity and large dimensions. contribution 0.57 0.45 0.06 unclear 0.67

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