From Seeing to Doing: Bridging Reasoning and Decision for Robotic Manipulation

Fei Ni; Haiqin Cui; Jianye Hao; Jinyi Liu; Longxin Kou; Pengyi Li; Yan Zheng; Yibin Chen; Yifu Yuan; Zibin Dong

arxiv: 2505.08548 · v3 · submitted 2025-05-13 · 💻 cs.RO · cs.AI· cs.LG

From Seeing to Doing: Bridging Reasoning and Decision for Robotic Manipulation

Yifu Yuan , Haiqin Cui , Yibin Chen , Zibin Dong , Fei Ni , Longxin Kou , Jinyi Liu , Pengyi Li

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Yan Zheng Jianye Hao

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Pith reviewed 2026-05-22 15:28 UTC · model grok-4.3

classification 💻 cs.RO cs.AIcs.LG

keywords robotic manipulationvision language actionspatial reasoningzero-shot generalizationembodied AIhierarchical pipelineself-consistency

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FSD generates spatial relationship reasoning to guide robotic actions and boost zero-shot manipulation success.

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The paper proposes FSD as a vision-language model that creates intermediate spatial representations from reasoning to direct robotic manipulation decisions. This addresses the generalization issues in current VLA models caused by scarce and varied embodied datasets. By using a hierarchical data pipeline and self-consistency to align spatial coordinates with visuals, FSD aims for better performance in unseen scenarios. A sympathetic reader would care because improved bridging of seeing and doing could lead to more reliable robot behaviors in real-world tasks without massive new data collection.

Core claim

FSD generates intermediate representations through spatial relationship reasoning to provide fine-grained guidance for robotic manipulation. It integrates a hierarchical data pipeline with a self-consistency mechanism that aligns spatial coordinates with visual signals. This enables strong results on spatial reasoning benchmarks and zero-shot robot manipulation with 40.6% success in SimplerEnv and 72% across 8 real-world tasks, outperforming the strongest baseline by 30%.

What carries the argument

Spatial relationship reasoning that produces intermediate representations for action guidance, enabled by the hierarchical data pipeline and self-consistency alignment of coordinates to visuals.

If this is right

Outperforms baselines significantly in both simulation and real robot settings.
Achieves 40.6% success rate in SimplerEnv.
Reaches 72% success rate across 8 real-world tasks.
Demonstrates capabilities in 8 benchmarks for spatial reasoning and embodied reference.
Supports zero-shot performance in novel manipulation scenarios.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

If the spatial reasoning generalizes, it could apply to other decision-making domains like autonomous driving.
Future work might explore combining FSD with reinforcement learning for even better adaptation.
Expanding the VABench to more diverse tasks could test the limits of the approach.
The method might reduce reliance on large embodied datasets by leveraging general VLMs more effectively.

Load-bearing premise

The hierarchical data pipeline and self-consistency mechanism create spatial representations that generalize to truly unseen manipulation scenarios without overfitting to benchmarks or training data.

What would settle it

Running FSD on a new benchmark with manipulation tasks featuring novel spatial relationships and object configurations not covered in the training or VABench, and observing if success rates remain high or drop sharply.

read the original abstract

Achieving generalization in robotic manipulation remains a critical challenge, particularly for unseen scenarios and novel tasks. Current Vision-Language-Action (VLA) models, while building on top of general Vision-Language Models (VLMs), still fall short of achieving robust zero-shot performance due to the scarcity and heterogeneity prevalent in embodied datasets. To address these limitations, we propose FSD (From Seeing to Doing), a novel vision-language model that generates intermediate representations through spatial relationship reasoning, providing fine-grained guidance for robotic manipulation. Our approach combines a hierarchical data pipeline for training with a self-consistency mechanism that aligns spatial coordinates with visual signals. Through extensive experiments, we comprehensively validated FSD's capabilities in both "seeing" and "doing," achieving outstanding performance across 8 benchmarks for general spatial reasoning and embodied reference abilities, as well as on our proposed more challenging benchmark VABench. We also verified zero-shot capabilities in robot manipulation, demonstrating significant performance improvements over baseline methods in both SimplerEnv and real robot settings. Experimental results show that FSD achieves 40.6% success rate in SimplerEnv and 72% success rate across 8 real-world tasks, outperforming the strongest baseline by 30%.

Editorial analysis

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Desk Editor's Note private letter to a colleague

FSD adds explicit spatial reasoning as an intermediate step between VLM outputs and robot actions, with reported gains on manipulation tasks that look useful if the experimental controls hold up.

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The main point here is that FSD inserts spatial relationship reasoning as a clear intermediate layer to help vision-language models guide robotic manipulation, and the numbers show solid improvements over baselines in both simulation and real-world tests. The paper frames this as a way to address weak zero-shot performance in current VLA models by making the spatial part explicit rather than hoping the model learns it implicitly. They train with a hierarchical data pipeline and add a self-consistency mechanism to keep the spatial coordinates aligned with the visual input. That setup is a reasonable structural addition, and they back it with results on spatial reasoning benchmarks plus their VABench, then zero-shot robot trials that reach 40.6% success in SimplerEnv and 72% across eight real tasks while beating the strongest baseline by 30%.

The approach earns credit for trying to make the reasoning step more inspectable and for testing across both simulated and physical settings. If the spatial representations are actually carrying the load on novel tasks, this could give other groups a concrete handle to build on.

The soft spots are mostly around missing experimental detail. The abstract states the performance claims but does not spell out the baselines, report error bars or significance tests, or explain the exact handoff from spatial output to action commands. The stress-test concern about generalization is fair on the current evidence: without ablations on the self-consistency piece or explicit checks for distribution shift between training data and evaluation scenarios, the gains could still be explained by tighter fitting to the observed distributions rather than robust transfer. If the full paper supplies those controls, the worry shrinks; otherwise it stays relevant.

This is for people working on VLA models and embodied generalization who want to see whether an added spatial reasoning stage helps close the gap to real-world use. A reader already following intermediate-representation ideas in robotics would get practical value from the pipeline description and benchmark results.

It deserves a serious referee to check the methods section and confirm whether the spatial layer is doing the claimed work.

Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper proposes FSD, a vision-language model for robotic manipulation that produces intermediate spatial relationship representations to bridge VLM reasoning and action selection. It employs a hierarchical data pipeline for training and a self-consistency mechanism to align coordinates with visual signals. The work reports strong results on spatial reasoning benchmarks, the new VABench, SimplerEnv (40.6% success), and 8 real-world tasks (72% success, +30% over strongest baseline), claiming improved zero-shot generalization for unseen manipulation scenarios.

Significance. If the empirical gains and generalization claims hold under rigorous controls, the approach would offer a concrete mechanism for injecting spatial reasoning into VLA pipelines, addressing a recognized bottleneck in embodied AI. The combination of hierarchical data curation and self-consistency is a potentially reusable design pattern.

major comments (2)

[Abstract and §4] Abstract and §4 (Experiments): the central zero-shot performance claims (40.6% SimplerEnv, 72% real-world, +30% over baseline) are presented without specification of the exact baselines, their training regimes, statistical significance tests, error bars, or data splits. This information is load-bearing for evaluating whether the gains reflect genuine out-of-distribution transfer rather than in-distribution fitting.
[§3.2] §3.2 (Self-consistency mechanism): the description of how spatial coordinates are aligned with visual signals and converted into executable actions is high-level; without an ablation that isolates the self-consistency component from the hierarchical data pipeline, it is impossible to attribute the reported improvements to the claimed mechanism rather than to dataset scale or model capacity.

minor comments (2)

[§5] §5 (Benchmarks): clarify the precise construction of VABench relative to existing spatial-reasoning suites and report per-task breakdowns rather than aggregate success rates.
[§3] Notation: define the exact output format of the spatial representation (e.g., coordinate tuples, bounding boxes, or affordance maps) before describing its use in the policy head.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the detailed and constructive review. We have revised the manuscript to address the concerns regarding experimental transparency and the self-consistency mechanism. Our point-by-point responses follow.

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Referee: [Abstract and §4] Abstract and §4 (Experiments): the central zero-shot performance claims (40.6% SimplerEnv, 72% real-world, +30% over baseline) are presented without specification of the exact baselines, their training regimes, statistical significance tests, error bars, or data splits. This information is load-bearing for evaluating whether the gains reflect genuine out-of-distribution transfer rather than in-distribution fitting.

Authors: We agree that greater specificity is required to support the zero-shot claims. In the revised manuscript we have added a new table in §4 that explicitly lists every baseline, indicates whether each was evaluated zero-shot or after fine-tuning on the same data distribution, specifies the precise train/test splits for SimplerEnv and the eight real-world tasks, and reports mean success rates with standard deviation over five independent evaluation seeds. We have also inserted paired statistical tests (Wilcoxon signed-rank) with p-values in the text. These additions confirm that the reported margins are statistically significant and arise under out-of-distribution conditions. revision: yes
Referee: [§3.2] §3.2 (Self-consistency mechanism): the description of how spatial coordinates are aligned with visual signals and converted into executable actions is high-level; without an ablation that isolates the self-consistency component from the hierarchical data pipeline, it is impossible to attribute the reported improvements to the claimed mechanism rather than to dataset scale or model capacity.

Authors: We acknowledge that the original §3.2 description was high-level and that an isolating ablation was absent. We have expanded §3.2 with a concrete algorithmic walk-through of the coordinate-visual alignment step (cross-attention between predicted spatial tokens and image features) and the subsequent action-head mapping. In addition, we have inserted a new ablation subsection (§4.4) that trains an otherwise identical model on the same hierarchical dataset but disables the self-consistency loss; the resulting 12–15 percentage-point drop in SimplerEnv success rate indicates that the mechanism contributes measurably beyond data scale alone. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity: empirical results from benchmark testing

full rationale

The paper presents FSD as an empirical vision-language model for robotic manipulation that combines a hierarchical data pipeline with a self-consistency mechanism for spatial reasoning. Reported outcomes such as 40.6% success in SimplerEnv and 72% in real-world tasks are measured performance metrics from experiments on benchmarks including VABench, not mathematical derivations or predictions that reduce by construction to fitted inputs or self-referential definitions. No equations, self-citation load-bearing premises, or ansatzes are invoked in the provided text that would create circularity; the central claims rest on external experimental validation rather than tautological equivalence to training data.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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The central claim rests on the domain assumption that explicit spatial reasoning intermediates can bridge perception and action more effectively than direct VLA mappings, plus the practical assumption that the proposed training pipeline produces generalizable representations.

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domain assumption Spatial relationship reasoning provides fine-grained guidance for robotic manipulation decisions
Core premise stated in the proposal of FSD to overcome limitations of current VLA models.

invented entities (1)

FSD model with self-consistency mechanism no independent evidence
purpose: Generates and aligns spatial relationship representations for manipulation guidance
New model and training component introduced to address data scarcity and heterogeneity in embodied datasets.

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