Pith. sign in

REVIEW 25 cited by

The Unreasonable Ineffectiveness of the Deeper Layers

Not yet reviewed by Pith; the record is open.

This paper has not been read by Pith yet. Machine review is queued; the pith claim, tier, and objections will appear here once it completes.

SPECIMEN: schema-true, not a live event

T0 review · schema-true

One-sentence machine reading of the paper's core claim.

pith:XXXXXXXX · record.json · timestamp

arxiv 2403.17887 v2 pith:64RTIIKS submitted 2024-03-26 cs.CL cs.LGstat.ML

The Unreasonable Ineffectiveness of the Deeper Layers

classification cs.CL cs.LGstat.ML
keywords layersknowledgelayercommondeeperfindfinetuningmethods
verification ladder T0 review T1 audit T2 compute T3 formal T4 reserved
0 comments
read the original abstract

How is knowledge stored in an LLM's weights? We study this via layer pruning: if removing a certain layer does not affect model performance in common question-answering benchmarks, then the weights in that layer are not necessary for storing the knowledge needed to answer those questions. To find these unnecessary parameters, we identify the optimal block of layers to prune by considering similarity across layers; then, to "heal" the damage, we perform a small amount of finetuning. Surprisingly, with this method we find minimal degradation of performance until after a large fraction (up to half) of the layers are removed for some common open-weight models. From a scientific perspective, the robustness of these LLMs to the deletion of layers implies either that current pretraining methods are not properly leveraging the parameters in the deeper layers of the network or that the shallow layers play a critical role in storing knowledge. For our study, we use parameter-efficient finetuning (PEFT) methods, specifically quantization and Low Rank Adapters (QLoRA), such that each of our experiments can be performed on a single 40GB A100 GPU.

discussion (0)

Sign in with ORCID, Apple, or X to comment. Anyone can read and Pith papers without signing in.

Forward citations

Cited by 25 Pith papers

Reviewed papers in the Pith corpus that reference this work. Sorted by Pith novelty score.

  1. Bekko Embedding: Parameter-Efficient Multilingual Retrieval with Ultra-Compact Encoders

    cs.IR 2026-07 conditional novelty 7.0

    Bekko a8m, with 7.7M active parameters, scores 56.2 on MMTEB Multilingual v2 Retrieval, beating mE5 models and BGE-M3, while a25m reaches 57.5, on par with gte-multilingual-base.

  2. Wrong Before Right: Late Rescue and Interface Failure in Aligned Language Models

    cs.CL 2026-07 conditional novelty 7.0

    Aligned LMs transiently commit to wrong mid-layer preferences that late layers rescue; this wrong-dip predicts structural compression flips, is recipe-specific and trainable, and is distinct from interface failure.

  3. Tapered Language Models

    cs.LG 2026-06 unverdicted novelty 7.0

    Tapered Language Models monotonically decrease MLP width across depth with a cosine schedule, yielding better perplexity and downstream performance than uniform-width baselines across multiple architectures and scales...

  4. Understanding Performance Collapse in Layer-Pruned Large Language Models via Decision Representation Transitions

    cs.CL 2026-05 unverdicted novelty 7.0

    Performance collapse in layer-pruned LLMs stems from disrupting the Silent Phase of decision-making, which blocks the transition to correct predictions, while the later Decisive Phase is robust to pruning.

  5. Why Geometric Continuity Emerges in Deep Neural Networks: Residual Connections and Rotational Symmetry Breaking

    cs.LG 2026-05 unverdicted novelty 7.0

    Residual connections align cross-layer gradients while symmetry-breaking activations prevent rotational drift, causing principal singular vectors of adjacent layers to align.

  6. Variance Is Not Importance: Structural Analysis of Transformer Compressibility Across Model Scales

    cs.LG 2026-04 unverdicted novelty 7.0

    High-variance activation directions are uncorrelated with predictions, transformer blocks grow more linear with depth, and single-block linear replacement yields 34x compression on Mistral's final block at a 1.71 perp...

  7. Rethinking Depth Pruning for Vision Transformers: A Heterogeneity-Aware Perspective

    cs.CV 2026-07 conditional novelty 6.0

    Heterogeneity-aware depth pruning of attention and activation layers, guided by a polynomial model-accuracy predictor, delivers up to 1.58× speedup on DeiT-B and 5.19× when combined with width pruning.

  8. CascadeFormer: Depth-Tapered Transformers Motivated by Gradient Fan-in Asymmetry

    cs.LG 2026-06 unverdicted novelty 6.0

    CascadeFormer tapers Transformer width with depth based on gradient fan-in asymmetry to match uniform baselines in perplexity while cutting latency 8.6%.

  9. Finetuning Vision-Language-Action Models Requires Fewer Layers Than You Think

    cs.RO 2026-06 unverdicted novelty 6.0

    VLA models exhibit layer-wise redundancy allowing up to 50% depth compression via training-free CKA-based removal, yielding faster fine-tuning and inference with no performance loss on robot tasks.

  10. Complementary Attention Head Pruning for Efficient Transformers

    cs.LG 2026-06 unverdicted novelty 6.0

    CAHP prunes transformer attention heads via graph-based clustering on information-theoretic distances, automatically selects the number of heads from a polynomial-fitted performance curve, and reports better results t...

  11. Latent Communication Between Language Model Agents: Channels, Alignment, and the Limits of Text

    cs.CL 2026-05 conditional novelty 6.0

    Latent communication between LLM agents preserves far more SAE features than text, but those extra features encode surface form and provide no task-level advantage on text-expressible tasks.

  12. LASER: Low-Rank Activation SVD for Efficient Recursion

    cs.LG 2026-04 unverdicted novelty 6.0

    LASER tracks low-rank activation subspaces in recursive models via matrix-free SVD updates and fidelity resets to save 60% memory without accuracy loss.

  13. Do Transformers Use their Depth Adaptively? Evidence from a Relational Reasoning Task

    cs.LG 2026-04 unverdicted novelty 6.0

    Transformers show limited adaptive depth use on relational reasoning, with clearer evidence after finetuning on the task.

  14. When Does Sparsity Mitigate the Curse of Depth in LLMs

    cs.CL 2026-03 conditional novelty 6.0

    Implicit and explicit sparsity reduce residual-stream variance and improve layer effectiveness metrics, enabling a depth-scaling recipe with about 4.6 points higher downstream accuracy.

  15. Inverse Depth Scaling From Most Layers Being Similar

    cs.LG 2026-02 conditional novelty 6.0

    LLM loss decreases roughly inversely with depth because most layers act as a redundant ensemble that averages errors, not as a compositional hierarchy.

  16. CHERRY: Compressed Hierarchical Experts with Recurrent Representational Yield

    cs.CL 2026-06 unverdicted novelty 5.0

    CHERRY combines selective ground-truth token training, recurrent depth compression from 48 to 6 layers, and mixture-of-efficient-experts to achieve competitive loss with fewer parameters on a 1.8B Korean model.

  17. Dense2MoE: Pushing the Pareto Frontier of On-Device LLMs via Unified Pruning and Upcycling

    cs.LG 2026-05 unverdicted novelty 5.0

    Dense2MoE unifies pruning of attention modules with upcycling of MLPs into MoE experts to produce on-device LLMs that improve the latency-accuracy Pareto frontier.

  18. A Hamiltonian-Inspired Local-Operator Ansatz for Slimming Large Language Models

    cs.CL 2026-05 conditional novelty 5.0

    Tensor Mixture (MixT) compresses transformer linear layers into local tensor sums that execute directly, preserving MMLU accuracy up to a sharp per-model boundary and cutting LLaMA2-7B parameters by 47.5%.

  19. A Hamiltonian-Inspired Local-Operator Ansatz for Slimming Large Language Models

    cs.CL 2026-05 unverdicted novelty 5.0

    MixT compresses Transformer LLMs by substituting targeted linear projections with tensor-operator mixtures, preserving MMLU accuracy up to model-specific boundaries where parameter count drops 47.5% and inference memo...

  20. Attention Residuals

    cs.CL 2026-03 unverdicted novelty 5.0

    Attention Residuals replaces fixed residual summation with input-dependent softmax attention over preceding layers, and a blocked variant is shown to improve uniformity and downstream performance in a 48B-parameter mo...

  21. On the Limits of Layer Pruning for Generative Reasoning in Large Language Models

    cs.LG 2026-02 unverdicted novelty 5.0

    Layer pruning preserves classification performance in LLMs but fundamentally limits recovery of generative reasoning capabilities even after extensive self-supervised finetuning.

  22. MixLLM: LLM Quantization with Global Mixed-precision between Output-features and Highly-efficient System Design

    cs.LG 2024-12 unverdicted novelty 5.0

    MixLLM uses global output-feature importance to set mixed bit-widths for LLM quantization and adds two-step dequantization plus software pipelining for system efficiency.

  23. CHERRY: Compressed Hierarchical Experts with Recurrent Representational Yield

    cs.CL 2026-06 reject novelty 4.0

    Selective-pivot-token training plus layer-averaging-with-recurrence reportedly gives 2.5x parameter compression on a small Korean LLM, but the efficiency claim lacks its decisive controls and the abstract advertises r...

  24. Gradient Smoothing: Coupling Layer-wise Updates for Improved Optimization

    cs.LG 2026-06 unverdicted novelty 4.0

    Gradient Smoothing applies depth-wise smoothing to optimizer updates from base methods like Adam, yielding consistent gains in optimization and generalization on language, RL, diffusion, and vision tasks.

  25. Neural Scaling Universality: If Exponents Are Fixed, Time to Understand Coefficients

    cs.LG 2026-06 unverdicted novelty 4.0

    Position paper claims fixed exponents in scaling laws arise from generic mechanisms while coefficients vary with data and architecture, making the latter the focus for improvements.