Human2Any: Human-to-Robot Transfer via Constraint-Aware Compositional Planning
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The pith
Human videos supply reusable object interaction knowledge that robots can apply to new tasks by combining with their own feasibility planning.
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Core claim
Human2Any represents manipulation tasks through object-object interaction motion extracted from human videos. These priors are then composed with robot-side feasibility reasoning and motion planning to generate actions that adapt to different robot embodiments and scene geometries, enabling transfer without real-world robot training data in the target contexts.
What carries the argument
Object-object interaction motion, which captures task-relevant scene changes while ignoring embodiment-specific details.
If this is right
- Human-derived interaction knowledge applies directly to a Franka arm and an RBY-1 humanoid without retraining on robot data.
- The same priors handle variations in scene geometry and task contexts through compositional planning.
- Robots can perform manipulation in settings where collecting robot demonstrations is difficult or unsafe.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- This method could lower the barrier for deploying robots in new environments by leveraging existing video data.
- It opens the possibility of scaling robot learning to the volume of human video available online.
- The compositional nature suggests it could be combined with other planning methods for more complex behaviors.
Load-bearing premise
The motion of objects interacting in human videos contains the essential information needed for successful robot execution once feasibility is checked.
What would settle it
Demonstrating that the composed plans frequently fail on tasks where human videos show clear interactions but robot execution misses key constraints or details would falsify the approach.
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Human videos are a scalable source of supervision for robot manipulation, as they are abundant and naturally capture rich object interactions. However, transferring human demonstrations to robots remains challenging due to embodiment mismatch, scene variation, and robot-specific feasibility constraints. We present Human2Any, a framework for learning reusable object-centric interaction priors from human videos without requiring real-world robot demonstrations in the target task contexts. Human2Any represents manipulation through object-object interaction motion, capturing task-relevant scene changes while abstracting away embodiment-specific details. It composes learned interaction priors with robot-side feasibility reasoning and motion planning, allowing the same human-derived knowledge to adapt to different embodiments, scene geometries, and task contexts. We validate Human2Any across diverse manipulation settings, including real-world experiments on a Franka tabletop setup and an RBY-1 humanoid mobile robot, demonstrating robust interaction-centric manipulation without real-world robot training data. Project website: https://human2any.github.io/.
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Referee Report
Summary. The paper introduces Human2Any, a framework for human-to-robot transfer in manipulation that learns reusable object-centric interaction priors from human videos. It represents tasks via object-object interaction motions to abstract embodiment details, then composes these priors with robot-side feasibility reasoning and motion planning to adapt to new embodiments, scenes, and contexts. Validation is claimed via real-world experiments on a Franka arm and RBY-1 humanoid without target-task robot demonstrations.
Significance. If the compositional transfer mechanism holds, the work could meaningfully advance scalable robot learning by reducing reliance on robot-specific data collection. The emphasis on object-object interactions and constraint-aware planning addresses embodiment mismatch in a potentially generalizable way, though the absence of technical details limits assessment of novelty relative to prior video-to-robot methods.
major comments (2)
- [Abstract] Abstract: The central claim that object-object interaction motion captures task-relevant scene changes while abstracting embodiment details is stated at a high level without any formal representation, equations, or pseudocode for the prior learning or composition step, making it impossible to evaluate internal consistency or how feasibility constraints are enforced.
- [Abstract] Abstract: No quantitative metrics, baselines, success rates, or ablation results are reported for the Franka tabletop or RBY-1 experiments, so the claim of 'robust interaction-centric manipulation without real-world robot training data' cannot be assessed for support by the data.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their comments. We address each point below and will revise the abstract to better support evaluation of the claims.
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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: The central claim that object-object interaction motion captures task-relevant scene changes while abstracting embodiment details is stated at a high level without any formal representation, equations, or pseudocode for the prior learning or composition step, making it impossible to evaluate internal consistency or how feasibility constraints are enforced.
Authors: The abstract is intentionally high-level due to length constraints. The manuscript provides the formal representation of the object-object interaction prior, its learning objective, the composition with robot-side feasibility constraints, and pseudocode in Sections 3 and 4. To improve accessibility from the abstract alone, we will add a concise reference to the key formulation and constraint enforcement mechanism. revision: yes
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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: No quantitative metrics, baselines, success rates, or ablation results are reported for the Franka tabletop or RBY-1 experiments, so the claim of 'robust interaction-centric manipulation without real-world robot training data' cannot be assessed for support by the data.
Authors: We agree that the abstract lacks specific quantitative results. The manuscript reports these details, including success rates, baseline comparisons, and ablations for the Franka and RBY-1 experiments, in Section 5. We will revise the abstract to include key metrics that support the central claim. revision: yes
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The provided manuscript text consists of a high-level description of a compositional framework that learns object-centric interaction priors from human videos and composes them with robot feasibility reasoning and motion planning. No equations, derivations, fitted parameters, or load-bearing self-citations are present in the abstract or summary. The central claim is a methodological composition rather than a mathematical reduction, and the validation is described as empirical across robot platforms without any indication that results are forced by construction from inputs. The derivation chain is therefore self-contained against external benchmarks.
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URLhttps://arxiv.org/abs/2406.09509. 14 Supplementary Material The supplementary material has the following contents: •Hardware Setup(Sec. A): Describes camera, perception, planning, and control details for the Franka and RBY-1 real-world platforms; •Tasks and Baselines(Sec. B): Details simulation and real-world task semantics, reset ranges, evaluation pr...
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