High Energy Physics - Theory · arXiv:hep-th/0510113 v2 · submitted 14 Oct 2005 · 45 references
The Throat as a Randall-Sundrum Model with Goldberger-Wise Stabilization
The paper says
“An interesting feature of type IIB flux compactifications is the natural presence of strongly warped regions or `throats'. These regions allow for a 5d Randall-Sundrum model interpretation with a large hierarchy between the UV and IR brane.”
more of the abstract
We show that, in the 5d description, the flux stabilization of this hierarchy (or, equivalently, of the brane-to-brane distance) can be understood as an implementation of the Goldberger-Wise mechanism. This mechanism relies on the non-trivial bulk profile of the so-called Goldberger-Wise scalar, which in addition has fixed expectation values at the boundaries and thereby stabilizes the size of the 5d interval. The Goldberger-Wise scalar is realized microscopically by the continuously varying flux of the Neveu-Schwarz 2-form potential B_2 on the S^2 cycle in the throat. Its back-reaction on the 5d geometry leads to a significant departure from a pure AdS_5 background. We also find that, for a wide range of parameters, the universal Kaehler modulus of the 10d compactification plays the role of a UV-brane field in the equivalent 5d model. It governs the size of a large 4d curvature term localized at the UV brane. We hope that our simple 5d description of the stabilized throat will be useful in various phenomenological and cosmological applications and that refined versions of this construction will be able to account for all relevant details of the 10d model.
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Holds up, with conditions. A clean, honest mapping of the flux-stabilized throat onto a 5d Goldberger-Wise model, with the right power law and a genuinely useful Kähler-modulus observation, though the radion potential is never computed. This line is wrong
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The paper says, at Sect. 3, Eqs. (34)-(37); Sect. 6
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Pith says: Objection 1 of 4 · major
The paper claims that the 5d model 'stabilizes the size of the 5d interval' (abstract:s2), but what is actually exhibited is a static bulk solution with boundary values H(y_UV), H(y_IR) chosen to match the 10d flux numbers. No radion effective potential is computed, no demonstration is given that the static solution is a minimum of that potential, and no radion mass is estimated.
more of objection 1
In the standard Goldberger-Wise analysis the bulk profile plus steep brane potentials is used precisely to obtain a radion potential with a minimum at the correct interval; here the boundary values are inputs, so the 'stabilization' is conditional on them. The authors should either compute (or at least parametrically estimate) the radion potential and its curvature at the solution, or soften the language from 'stabilizes' to 'admits a static solution with a fixed interval'. This is the load-bearing point for the central claim and is not among the limitations acknowledged in Sect. 6.
The paper says, at Sect. 3, Eqs. (29)-(34)
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Pith says: Objection 2 of 4 · major
The potential V(H) ~ -H^{-8/3} is obtained by an inverse problem: the 10d warp factor A(y) is taken as input and the 5d equations are solved for the potential that reproduces it. As the authors are aware, any monotonic A(y) yields some V(H), so the existence of a potential is not by itself independent evidence for a Goldberger-Wise structure.
more of objection 2
The nontrivial content is the exponent -8/3, which follows from the specific power-law warp factor; the paper should say this explicitly rather than presenting Eq. (34) as a derived prediction. Relatedly, the truncation in Eqs. (28)-(29) (dropping the second-derivative term and treating k(y) as slowly varying) is checked only afterwards in Eq. (36); the authors should state the parametric regime in which Eqs. (36) hold and whether it covers the whole throat from y_IR to y_UV, or only an intermediate region.
The paper says, at Sect. 4, Eqs. (41)-(45); Sect. 5, Eq. (52)
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Pith says: Objection 3 of 4 · major
The claim that the universal Kähler modulus is a UV-brane field (abstract:s6, s7) rests on a parametric argument: the throat shrinks less than the brane thickness grows as R_c increases (Sect. 4, penultimate paragraph). The argument is plausible but not a derivation, and it is sensitive to the identification of the transition point r_UV via Eq.
more of objection 3
(41). More seriously, in Eq. (52) R_c appears with a wrong-sign kinetic term in the 5d Einstein frame; the paper acknowledges this and proposes a Weyl rescaling, but notes that in the rescaled frame R_c would cease to be a UV-brane field. That is a genuine tension in the interpretation, not merely a presentation issue, and it should be addressed more carefully: either exhibit a frame in which R_c is a healthy brane field with the stated large curvature term, or state clearly that the brane-field interpretation is frame-dependent and specify the regime of validity.
The paper says, at Sect. 5, Eqs. (46) and (49)
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Pith says: Objection 4 of 4 · major
Eq. (46) is presented as a precise definition of R_c, with the relative coefficient of the R_4 and (∂ ln R_c)^2 terms claimed to be fixed by the no-scale structure of the Kähler potential. The subsequent addition of the 4d Einstein-Hilbert contribution from Eq.
more of objection 4
(48) is then compensated by hand in Eq. (49). The reader would benefit from a short derivation of the coefficient 30 = k(k-1) and of the no-scale relation between the two terms, and from a clearer statement of the regime in which Eq. (46) is reliable before the correction in Eq. (49) is applied. As written, the modification in Eq. (49) looks ad hoc even though it may be correct.
7 minor objections
The paper says, at Eqs. (21)-(22)
Pith says: minor objection 1 of 7
Please verify the numerical coefficient in Eq. (21). A quick recomputation using the stated values a' = 81/8 and Vol_{T^{1,1}} = 16π^3/27 gives a coefficient about 1.4 times larger than ((g_s M)^4/(3π^4))^{1/3}; this is within the paper's stated O(1) uncertainty, but since the coefficient is explicitly computed it should be checked.
The paper says, at Eq. (26) and surrounding text
Pith says: minor objection 2 of 7
The orientation of the coordinate y is stated only in passing ('up to the sign of y, which is chosen to avoid a large number of minus signs'). A sentence specifying explicitly which end of the interval is UV and which is IR, and the sign convention for A(y), would make Eqs. (25)-(27) much easier to follow.
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The paper says, at Eqs. (65) and (67)
Pith says: minor objection 3 of 7
The two Kähler potentials are said to agree only 'in the sense that the logarithms of the derivatives of K coincide', and the paper acknowledges that beyond this approximation they are 'intriguingly close but not quite the same'. A clearer statement of the residual discrepancy and its parametric size would help the reader judge whether it is a subleading warping correction or a genuine mismatch.
The paper says, at Eq. (55)
Pith says: minor objection 4 of 7
Please check the powers of g_s M versus g_s N in the brane tensions. Using k ~ M_5^2 R_s^{-1} H^{-4/3} and H ~ M_5^{3/2}(g_s N)^{1/2}, the tension appears to scale as M_5^4 (g_s M^2)^{-2/3}(g_s N)^{-2/3} rather than M_5^4 (g_s N)^{-2/3}; if a factor has been absorbed into c_V, this should be stated.
The paper says, at Sect. 6
Pith says: minor objection 5 of 7
The discussion of 5d supersymmetry is explicitly speculative, which is appropriate for an outlook, but the sentence suggesting that 'SUSY is always broken from the 5d point of view' should be flagged as a conjecture rather than a conclusion, since no argument is given beyond the absence of an obvious embedding of the H^{-8/3} potential in the known supersymmetric Goldberger-Wise models.
The paper says, at Sect. 4, opening paragraph
Pith says: minor objection 6 of 7
The statement that the universal Kähler modulus 'simply corresponds to an overall rescaling of this space' should be qualified: it holds only in the regime R_c < L where the 5d effective description is valid, as the paper itself notes later in the section.
The paper says, at Footnote 1 and general terminology
Pith says: minor objection 7 of 7
The double use of 'brane' for D-branes and for 4d boundaries is acknowledged in footnote 1, but a short glossary or a consistent typographic distinction would reduce the risk of confusion, particularly in Sects. 2 and 5 where both meanings occur close together.
What would settle it
Integrate out the bulk scalar and metric from Eq. (51), including the brane contributions of Eqs. (52)-(53), to obtain the 4d effective potential for the radion (the interval length). Verify that it has a minimum at the Δy determined by the boundary conditions, with positive radion mass squared. If the effective potential has no minimum or a tachyonic direction, the concern lands.
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The thing to know: this is the paper that puts the Klebanov-Tseytlin throat into 5d Randall-Sundrum plus Goldberger-Wise language, gets the right power law V(H) ~ -H−8/3, and observes that the universal Kähler modulus acts as a UV-brane field with a large induced 4d Ricci term. Both results are useful and, as far as I can check, correct. The 10d solution is Klebanov-Tseytlin's and the authors say so; the contribution is the 5d repackaging — the proper-distance coordinate (Eqs. 20-24), the identification of the GW scalar with the B2 flux on the S2, the warp factor A(y) ~ (y/Rs)3/5, and the explicit brane action (Eqs. 51-55). Section 4 is the most original part: the argument that Rc is a brane field rather than the radion, with the quantitative comparison in Eqs. (43)-(45), is well made and worth citing on its own. On soft spots, the stress-test is right that V(H) is reverse-engineered: they take A(y) from 10d and solve for the potential that reproduces it. The authors are upfront about this in Sect. 6 (consistency arguments, not a dimensional reduction). The more substantive gap is that they never compute the radion effective potential or its mass. In GW that is the payoff — the minimum and the mass. Here you get a static solution with fixed boundary values, which does fix the interval, but no demonstrated minimum. For anyone who wants to use this for phenomenology, that is the missing piece. The secondary stress-test point — that the boundary values are inputs — is not really a flaw; that is how GW works. The superfield matching in Sect. 5 does not close (Eqs. 65 vs 67), and the authors say so. Who it is for: string phenomenology people who want a 5d handle on warped throats, and RS model builders who want to know what the stringy version looks like. It is a standard reference for a reason. Recommendation: send it out. It is a solid, honest consistency construction with a real result and clearly stated limitations. Referees should push on the radion potential.
The strongest objection
The derivation of V(H) in Eqs. (29)-(34) takes the 10d warp factor A(y) ~ (y/R_s)^{3/5} as input and solves for the potential that reproduces it. This is a functional inverse problem: any monotonic A(y) yields some V(H), so the existence of V(H) ~ -H^{-8/3} is not independent evidence that the 10d dynamics is Goldberger-Wise. The physical content of GW is radion stabilization: the bulk potential and brane potentials together produce a radion effective potential with a minimum at the correct interval and a calculable mass. The paper shows that a static solution exists with fixed boundary values H(y_UV), H(y_IR), which does fix the interval, but it does not compute the radion effective potential or verify that the solution is a minimum. Without this, the identification is a kinematical re-description rather than a demonstration that the same stabilization dynamics is at work. The paper acknowledges the matching-not-derivation character in Sect. 6 ('it would certainly be desirable to derive the 5d action by an explicit dimensional reduction rather than by consistency arguments'), but does not address the radion potential. A secondary concern: the boundary values are inputs chosen to match the 10d flux numbers, so the 'stabilization' is conditional on these inputs.
The reader's CONDITIONAL verdict is appropriate. The paper is an honest consistency construction, and the matching is internally coherent: the running of N_eff (Eq. 15), the proper-distance coordinate (Eqs. 20-24), the warp factor (Eq. 26), and the potential V ~ H^{-8/3} (Eq. 34) fit together, and the slow-variation conditions are checked in Eq. (36). The reader's weakest_assumption (single-scalar truncation and slow-variation) is a real technical concern, but the more load-bearing concern is the reverse-engineering of V(H) and the absence of a radion potential calculation. The paper's own stated limitations in Sect. 6 (explicit dimensional reduction desirable, SUSY completion unclear) and Sect. 5 (Kähler potential matching fails, Eqs. 65 versus 67) are acknowledged and should be weighed. The classifier's 'Limitations: none found' is incorrect; the paper states several. The verdict should remain CONDITIONAL because the construction is a re-description that would be strengthened by a radion potential calculation, but the central claim is not falsified.
The referee's report
If the identification holds, the paper supplies a simple and usable 5d effective description of the stabilized throat, which is of clear value for phenomenological and cosmological model building on warped throats. The observation that the universal Kähler modulus acts as a UV-brane field with a large induced 4d curvature term (Sect. 4 and Eq. 52) is novel and potentially useful. The paper deserves credit for being explicit about its approximations: the slow-variation conditions are checked in Eq. (36), the inverse-problem character of the V(H) derivation is visible in the text of Sect. 3, and Sect. 6 states plainly that the 5d action is obtained by consistency arguments rather than by explicit reduction. The power-law form of V(H) is a nontrivial consistency check on the matching, not a triviality.
Pith's reading of the paper (a machine's summary, not the authors')
The paper asks whether the flux stabilization of a warped throat in type IIB string compactifications is, in five-dimensional language, the Goldberger-Wise mechanism for stabilizing the distance between two branes. It identifies the Goldberger-Wise scalar with the continuously varying flux of the Neveu-Schwarz two-form on the two-sphere of the throat, derives the bulk potential $V(H)propto -H^{-8/3}$ that reproduces the ten-dimensional warp factor, and fixes the scalar's boundary values by the ultraviolet and infrared flux numbers. It also argues that the universal Kaehler modulus of the compactification acts as a field on the ultraviolet brane, controlling a brane-localized four-dimensional curvature term. If the matching is right, the known five-dimensional stabilization dynamics can be used to compute the throat's hierarchy and its radion physics directly.
What carries the argument. The load-bearing object is the five-dimensional scalar $H$, whose potential and boundary values encode the running flux $N_{eff}(r)$ of the ten-dimensional throat. The paper matches the ten-dimensional radial coordinate to a physical five-dimensional coordinate $y$ via $M_5 y propto (ln(r/r_s))^{5/3}$, then uses the scalar equation in a slowly varying $AdS_5$ background to infer $V(H)propto H^{-8/3}$ and $Hpropto (y/R_s)^{3/10}$. Steep brane potentials pin $H$ at the UV and IR ends, so the same bulk profile that generates the warping also stabilizes the interval length. The universal Kaehler modulus is modeled as a UV-brane field because its variation rescales the compact space and the conical region without changing the throat length over a wide range.
Core claim. The central claim is that the ten-dimensional conifold throat with running five-form flux has an equivalent five-dimensional description in which a single scalar $H$ has a potential $V(H)sim -M_5^7 R_s^{-2} H^{-8/3}$ and boundary values $Hsim M_5^{3/2}(N_{UV/IR}/N_s)^{1/2}$. The scalar's bulk profile and gravitational backreaction produce the slowly varying curvature $A(y)simeq (y/R_s)^{3/5}$ rather than a pure $AdS_5$ geometry, and the brane-to-brane distance is fixed by the boundary values. In this dictionary the Goldberger-Wise scalar is the NS two-form flux on the $S^2$ cycle of $T^{1,1}$, and the universal Kaehler modulus is a UV-brane field that sets the size of a large four-dimensional Ricci term localized there. The paper packages these statements in an explicit five-dimensional Randall-Sundrum-type action with bulk and brane potentials.
The premise it rests on. The matching assumes that the only light five-dimensional degree of freedom relevant to the throat is a single canonically normalized scalar, the mode corresponding to the varying $T^{1,1}$ size and flux, and that the slow-variation truncation used to derive its potential holds over the throat.
If the paper is right (Pith's inferences, not the authors')
The brane-to-brane distance, and hence the hierarchy, is fixed by the UV and IR flux numbers through the boundary values of $H$.
The five-dimensional geometry is not pure $AdS_5$; the scalar backreaction gives a slowly varying curvature $A(y)simeq (y/R_s)^{3/5}$.
The universal Kaehler modulus controls a large UV-brane-localized four-dimensional Ricci term and, over a wide range of volumes, leaves the throat length nearly unchanged.
The explicit action of Eq. (51) provides a starting point for five-dimensional phenomenological and cosmological calculations of the stabilized throat.
The Goldberger-Wise scalar has a microscopic identity: it is the NS two-form flux on the $S^2$ cycle, equivalently the running five-form flux or $T^{1,1}$ radius.
If the dictionary holds, standard Goldberger-Wise results for the radion mass and couplings can be carried over to flux throats, giving a five-dimensional shortcut to quantities usually extracted from the ten-dimensional flux superpotential.
The identification of the Kaehler modulus with a UV-brane field suggests that volume-modulus cosmology in these compactifications can be recast as the dynamics of a brane-localized gravitational term, with possible consequences for induced gravity and the strength of four-dimensional gravity at the UV end.
A sharper check would be to compute the radion mass from the five-dimensional potential and compare it with the mass implied by ten-dimensional flux stabilization; agreement would test the single-scalar truncation, while disagreement would point to additional light modes.
Because the throat length is nearly independent of the Kaehler modulus over a wide range, cosmological evolution of the volume may leave the hierarchy intact until the compact space grows enough to absorb the throat.
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An interesting feature of type IIB flux compactifications is the natural presence of strongly warped regions or `throats'. These regions allow for a 5d Randall-Sundrum model interpretation with a large hierarchy between the UV and IR brane. We show that, in the 5d description, the flux stabilization of this hierarchy (or, equivalently, of the brane-to-brane distance) can be understood as an implementation of the Goldberger-Wise mechanism. This mechanism relies on the non-trivial bulk profile of the so-called Goldberger-Wise scalar, which in addition has fixed expectation values at the boundaries and thereby stabilizes the size of the 5d interval. The Goldberger-Wise scalar is realized microscopically by the continuously varying flux of the Neveu-Schwarz 2-form potential B_2 on the S^2 cycle in the throat. Its back-reaction on the 5d geometry leads to a significant departure from a pure AdS_5 background. We also find that, for a wide range of parameters, the universal Kaehler modulus of the 10d compactification plays the role of a UV-brane field in the equivalent 5d model. It governs the size of a large 4d curvature term localized at the UV brane. We hope that our simple 5d description of the stabilized throat will be useful in various phenomenological and cosmological applications and that refined versions of this construction will be able to account for all relevant details of the 10d model.
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“We show that, in the 5d description, the flux stabilization of this hierarchy (or, equivalently, of the brane-to-brane distance) can be understood as an implementation of the Goldberger-Wise mechanism.”
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| An interesting feature of type IIB flux compactifications is the natural presence of strongly warped regions or `throats'. | background 1.00 | 0.06 | 0.03 | asserted 0.98 |
| These regions allow for a 5d Randall-Sundrum model interpretation with a large hierarchy between the UV and IR brane. | background 0.89 | 0.09 | 0.07 | asserted 0.77 |
| We show that, in the 5d description, the flux stabilization of this hierarchy (or, equivalently, of the brane-to-brane distance) can be understood as an implementation of the Goldberger-Wise mechanism. | contribution 0.48 | 0.93 | 0.75 | asserted 1.00 |
| This mechanism relies on the non-trivial bulk profile of the so-called Goldberger-Wise scalar, which in addition has fixed expectation values at the boundaries and thereby stabilizes the size of the 5d interval. | background 0.56 | 0.14 | 0.11 | asserted 1.00 |
| The Goldberger-Wise scalar is realized microscopically by the continuously varying flux of the Neveu-Schwarz 2-form potential B_2 on the S^2 cycle in the throat. | result 0.54 | 0.68 | 0.14 | asserted 1.00 |
| Its back-reaction on the 5d geometry leads to a significant departure from a pure AdS_5 background. | result 0.99 | 0.59 | 0.06 | asserted 1.00 |
| We also find that, for a wide range of parameters, the universal Kaehler modulus of the 10d compactification plays the role of a UV-brane field in the equivalent 5d model. | result 0.96 | 0.94 | 0.10 | asserted 0.99 |
| It governs the size of a large 4d curvature term localized at the UV brane. | result 0.73 | 0.78 | 0.05 | asserted 1.00 |
| We hope that our simple 5d description of the stabilized throat will be useful in various phenomenological and cosmological applications and that refined versions of this construction will be able to account for all relevant details of the 10d model. | future work 1.00 | 0.11 | 0.07 | speculative 0.52 |
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We now treat the throat as an effectively 5-dimensional Randall-Sundrum-model [ref] .
Towards Axion Monodromy Inflation with Warped KK-Modes · KK-Reduction on the Effective 5d-Throat and the 4d Action · 0.92
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For an order of magnitude estimate, one can neglect the logarithmic $r$ dependence of the warp factor away from $r=r_s$ and approximate the Klebanov-Strassler region by a sharp cut off [ref] .
Energy Transfer between Throats from a 10d Perspective · Decay rate calculation in the gauge theory picture · 0.84
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For an order of magnitude estimate, we can neglect the logarithmic $r$ dependence of the warp factor away from $r=r_s$ and approximate the KS region by a sharp cut off [ref] .
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The crucial point is that in the 5d effective theory of a KS throat, the universal Kähler modulus is localized on the UV brane and is thus sequestered from the bottom of the throat [ref] .
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The types of six-dimensional braneworld models can be classified by the geometry of the extra-dimensional space (the transverse space) which may * be two infinitely large dimensions [ref] , * be a 2-sphere [ref] , a football shape [ref] , or an apple shape [ref] , * be a torus [ref] , * include a conical deficit [ref] , and * be a cylinder [ref] .
Smooth braneworld in $6$-dimensional asymptotically AdS spacetime · Introduction · 1.00
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Some authors also have studied the field behavior for a transverse manifold as the smoothed versions of the conifold, the resolved [ref] and deformed [ref] .
Gravity localization in a string-cigar braneworld · Introduction · 0.97
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For the former case, the authors studied the gravity in the whole deformed conifold or in a compact domain nearby a region of the deformed conifold called Klebanov-Strassler throat [ref] .
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