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arxiv: 2512.15877 · v2 · pith:2SEY32WPnew · submitted 2025-12-17 · 🌀 gr-qc · astro-ph.HE· hep-ph

Modeling the frequency-domain ringdown amplitude of comparable-mass mergers with greybody factors

Romeo Felice Rosato , Sophia Yi , Emanuele Berti , Paolo Pani This is my paper

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A four-parameter greybody model reproduces the frequency-domain ringdown amplitude of comparable-mass aligned-spin mergers with mismatches around 10^{-5}.

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The paper shows that the greybody factor of the remnant black hole modulates the post-merger ringdown signal in binary coalescences. A simple four-parameter model built on this factor matches the frequency-domain amplitude of many numerical relativity waveforms from the SXS catalog for comparable-mass aligned-spin systems. The approach reaches mismatches of order 10 to the minus five and improves on prior models by about two orders of magnitude. Analytical fits are given for the model parameters in terms of the initial masses and aligned spins. This setup supports new consistency tests of the ringdown phase that complement traditional black hole spectroscopy.

Core claim

The greybody factor of the remnant black hole modulates the post-merger ringdown signal, and a simple four-parameter model based on it accurately reproduces the frequency-domain amplitude across a large set of comparable-mass aligned-spin numerical relativity waveforms. The model achieves mismatches of order 10^{-5} on SXS catalog data, improves existing models by roughly two orders of magnitude, supplies analytical fits for its parameters in terms of progenitor masses and spins, and opens the door to new ringdown consistency tests.

What carries the argument

The greybody factor of the remnant black hole, which modulates the post-merger ringdown signal and serves as the basis for a four-parameter frequency-domain amplitude model.

If this is right

  • The model supplies ready-to-use analytical expressions for ringdown amplitudes in terms of initial binary parameters.
  • It enables direct consistency tests between the ringdown phase and the remnant black-hole properties.
  • The approach improves waveform modeling accuracy by two orders of magnitude for the targeted class of mergers.
  • It provides an alternative route to black-hole spectroscopy that focuses on amplitude rather than frequency alone.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same greybody-based construction could be tested on precessing or unequal-mass systems to check whether the four-parameter form remains sufficient.
  • If the model holds more broadly, it could tighten constraints on deviations from general relativity in the ringdown regime of gravitational-wave events.
  • Combining the amplitude fits with existing quasinormal-mode frequency measurements might yield joint tests of both amplitude and frequency content.

Load-bearing premise

The greybody factor of the remnant black hole modulates the post-merger ringdown amplitude in a way that a simple four-parameter model can capture for comparable-mass aligned-spin mergers.

What would settle it

Applying the four-parameter model to new numerical relativity waveforms outside the SXS comparable-mass aligned-spin range and finding mismatches well above 10^{-5} would show the model does not generalize as claimed.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2512.15877 by Emanuele Berti, Paolo Pani, Romeo Felice Rosato, Sophia Yi.

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Figure 2. Figure 2: FIG. 2. Illustration of the fitting procedure for the simulation [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: FIG. 4. Cross-validation of the polynomial model for the fitted [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_4.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: , where the dependence reduces to two dimensions and is therefore easier to visualize. The same procedure will then be applied in full generality to the complete three-dimensional parameter space (δ, χ+, χ−). We consider the training set and validation set defined above. We then compute the CV MSE for polynomials of increasing total degree N , and identify the optimal degree as the value that minimizes the… view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: FIG. 5. Comparison between the values predicted by the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_5.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 6. Figure 6: FIG. 6. Distribution of mismatches between the numerical [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_6.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 7. Figure 7: FIG. 7. Relative “importance” of different BBH parameters, [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p009_7.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 8. Figure 8: FIG. 8. Comparison between the FFT of the preprocessed [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p010_8.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 10. Figure 10: FIG. 10. Mean mismatch for the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p014_10.png] view at source ↗
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It was recently shown that, in a binary coalescence, the greybody factor of the remnant black hole modulates the post-merger ringdown signal. In this work, we demonstrate that a simple four-parameter model based on the greybody factor accurately reproduces the frequency-domain amplitude of a large set of comparable-mass, aligned-spin numerical relativity waveforms from the SXS catalog, achieving mismatches of order ${\cal O}(10^{-5})$ and improving existing models by roughly two orders of magnitude. We also identify the optimal initial frequency for applying the model in the frequency domain and provide analytical fits of the model parameters in terms of the progenitor masses and aligned spins. Our results pave the way for new consistency tests of the ringdown phase, complementary to traditional black hole spectroscopy.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper claims that a simple four-parameter model based on the greybody factor of the remnant black hole accurately reproduces the frequency-domain amplitude of the ringdown signal for comparable-mass, aligned-spin binary black hole mergers. Using a large set of SXS numerical-relativity waveforms, the model achieves mismatches of order O(10^{-5}), improves on existing models by roughly two orders of magnitude, identifies an optimal initial frequency for application in the frequency domain, and supplies analytical fits for the four parameters in terms of progenitor masses and aligned spins.

Significance. If the empirical accuracy holds under full scrutiny, the work provides a compact, analytically tractable model for ringdown amplitudes that could support new consistency tests of general relativity complementary to black-hole spectroscopy. The use of a broad SXS catalog, the reported mismatch improvement, and the regression of parameters onto progenitor quantities are concrete strengths that aid reproducibility.

major comments (2)
  1. The central claim that the greybody factor modulates the ringdown amplitude rests on an empirical four-parameter fit rather than a derivation from the transmission probability through the effective potential. No section derives the functional form from first principles; parameters are fitted per waveform and then regressed, leaving open whether the O(10^{-5}) mismatches reflect a genuine physical mechanism or a flexible phenomenological ansatz tuned to the catalog.
  2. Details on data-selection criteria for the SXS set, error-bar treatment, and full validation plots (including dependence on start time and overtone content) are required to substantiate the cross-catalog accuracy claim; the abstract-only presentation limits verification of the load-bearing result.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their positive assessment and recommendation for minor revision. We address each major comment below and will update the manuscript accordingly to improve clarity and reproducibility.

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  1. Referee: The central claim that the greybody factor modulates the ringdown amplitude rests on an empirical four-parameter fit rather than a derivation from the transmission probability through the effective potential. No section derives the functional form from first principles; parameters are fitted per waveform and then regressed, leaving open whether the O(10^{-5}) mismatches reflect a genuine physical mechanism or a flexible phenomenological ansatz tuned to the catalog.

    Authors: We agree that the four-parameter model is phenomenological: its functional form is chosen to reproduce the shape of the greybody transmission probability, but the parameters themselves are determined by fitting to numerical-relativity waveforms and then regressed onto progenitor quantities. This construction is motivated by the prior result (cited in the introduction) that the remnant greybody factor modulates the ringdown amplitude, yet we do not claim a first-principles derivation from the effective potential. The low mismatches across the SXS catalog provide empirical support for the physical relevance of the ansatz, but we acknowledge it remains a tuned model. In the revised manuscript we will expand the discussion in Section II to explicitly state the phenomenological character, the motivation from the greybody factor, and the limitations of the approach. revision: partial

  2. Referee: Details on data-selection criteria for the SXS set, error-bar treatment, and full validation plots (including dependence on start time and overtone content) are required to substantiate the cross-catalog accuracy claim; the abstract-only presentation limits verification of the load-bearing result.

    Authors: We will add the requested information. The revised manuscript will include a new subsection in Section III that specifies the SXS waveform selection criteria (mass-ratio and spin ranges, resolution cuts, and exclusion of cases with significant eccentricity), describes how numerical truncation errors are estimated and propagated into the mismatch calculation, and presents additional validation figures showing mismatch versus start time and versus the number of overtones retained. These plots and the associated text will be placed in the main body and an appendix to allow full verification of the reported accuracy. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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Four-parameter greybody ringdown model achieves reported accuracy via per-waveform fitting to NR data followed by secondary regression on progenitor parameters

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  1. fitted input called prediction [Abstract]
    "we demonstrate that a simple four-parameter model based on the greybody factor accurately reproduces the frequency-domain amplitude of a large set of comparable-mass, aligned-spin numerical relativity waveforms from the SXS catalog, achieving mismatches of order O(10^{-5}) and improving existing models by roughly two orders of magnitude. [...] We also identify the optimal initial frequency for applying the model in the frequency domain and provide analytical fits of the model parameters in terms of the progenitor masses and aligned spins."

    The four parameters are fitted to each individual NR waveform to produce the quoted low mismatches; the 'analytical fits' are then obtained by regressing those fitted parameter values against progenitor masses and spins. The reproduction accuracy on the catalog is therefore achieved by construction of the per-waveform fit rather than by an independent derivation from the greybody transmission probability.

full rationale

The paper's central demonstration is that a four-parameter model based on the remnant greybody factor reproduces the frequency-domain ringdown amplitude of SXS waveforms to O(10^{-5}) mismatches. This accuracy is obtained by fitting the four parameters directly to each numerical-relativity waveform in the catalog; the subsequent provision of analytical expressions for those parameters in terms of progenitor masses and spins is a secondary fit to the already-fitted values. The initial premise that the greybody factor modulates the ringdown signal is adopted from prior work without independent derivation of the specific functional form in this manuscript. Consequently the low mismatches validate the flexibility of the chosen ansatz on the fitted data rather than constituting an a-priori prediction, producing partial circularity of the fitted-input-called-prediction type.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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The claim rests on the domain assumption that greybody factors modulate ringdown amplitudes in a way capturable by four fitted parameters, plus the practical assumption that SXS waveforms are sufficiently accurate ground truth; no new entities are introduced.

free parameters (1)
  • four model parameters
    The model is explicitly described as four-parameter; these are fitted to the numerical waveforms and later given analytical expressions.
axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Greybody factor of the remnant black hole modulates the post-merger ringdown signal
    Invoked in the opening sentence as a recently shown fact that the present model builds upon.

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