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Black hole information, unitarity, and nonlocality
High Energy Physics - Theory · Submitted 19 May 2006 · 47 references
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The paper claims
Hawking's case that black holes destroy information rests on a step that may not be licensed: writing down the state of infalling matter and outgoing radiation on a single spacelike slice requires an exponentially large relative boost, and,
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What carries the argument
Two pieces of machinery carry the argument. The first is a cancellation: the stress tensor of the ultra-high-energy outgoing modes near the horizon, naively enormous for an infalling observer, combines with the contribution of the inside modes into an expression that is purely negative-frequency in Kruskal time, so momentum conservation leaves no large momenta in the interaction amplitude. This is the same statement as the nice-slice picture, in which the state near the horizon is the infalling vacuum for frequencies well above $1/M$. The second is a pair of competing scalings used as a diagnostic: the invariant mass-squared of an infalling quantum and a later Hawking quantum grows exponentially in the time between infall and emission, while their spatial separation along the slice grows only linearly. Feeding these into the locality bound, and estimating the graviton propagator as $G(x_1,x_2) sim 1/sigma^2$ with $sigma$ set by the geodesic that hugs the cut-off surface, yields a tree amplitude that grows large precisely where the bound is violated, signalling that the tree approximation has broken down and that the modes cannot be treated as independent degrees of freedom.
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Core claim
The paper's central claim is that no simultaneous description of infalling modes and outgoing Hawking modes can be given on one spacelike slice without encountering a large kinematic invariant, $s approx E_1 E_2 e^{(t_2-t_1)/4M}$, or some other dependence on ultra-Planckian physics. The modes are confined to a region of size of order $M$, so their separation along a smooth slice grows only linearly, $sigma approx sqrt{2M/r_c},(t_2-t_1)$; an enormous relative boost at modest separation is exactly the regime where a proposed locality bound, $|x-y|^{D-3} gtrsim G_D|p+q|$, is expected to fail. Since that bound is the criterion for the Hilbert space on the slice to decompose into independent factors, the tensor-product decomposition $mathcal{H} = mathcal{H}_{text{inside}} otimes mathcal{H}_{text{outside}}$ that Hawking's argument requires has not been justified. Hence, in the author's words, a reliable argument for information loss has not been constructed, and the resolution is plausibly nonlocal dynamics intrinsic to strong gravity rather than any breakdown of quantum mechanics.
Load-bearing premise
The load-bearing premise is that the locality bound, imported from flat-space reasoning, still marks the failure of the tensor-product description when applied in a curved black hole background, where the paper itself concedes that a complete evaluation of the propagator and amplitude requires knowledge of the Planckian regime near the singularity.
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If this is right
- The information-loss argument cannot be run without invoking Planck-scale or trans-Planckian physics, so the paradox is not established within known, controlled physics.
- The tensor-product structure of Hilbert space across a horizon is not a general feature of quantum gravity but an approximation valid only outside the extreme regime probed by large relative boosts.
- Nonlocality of strong gravitational dynamics becomes a candidate mechanism for restoring purity, with the delay before infallen information can appear in the radiation set by a time of order $16M log M$.
- The same nonlocal dynamics would supply a mechanism underlying holography and black hole complementarity, explaining why inside and outside observers' measurements need not commute.
- The final-state proposal, in which the singularity carries no information, requires some nonlocal relay to move information outside; this picture supplies a candidate for that relay.
Reading between the lines
- If the obstruction is real, it should show up as a breakdown of any attempt to write a factorized density matrix for Hawking radiation at late retarded times, which is in principle a statement about the scaling of entanglement entropy with the emission time rather than about Planck-scale microphysics.
- The argument suggests a general rule: whenever two probes of a curved background are related by an exponential boost while separated by only a modest proper distance, semiclassical field theory on that background should be suspect, which could be tested in analogue horizon systems where the boost factor is tunable.
- Because the paper's diagnostic uses only the kinematics of Schwarzschild geometry, the same exponential-invariant-versus-linear-separation mismatch should appear for any horizon, including cosmological ones, which would extend the claim well beyond black hole evaporation.
Original abstract
The black hole information paradox apparently indicates the need for a fundamentally new ingredient in physics. The leading contender is nonlocality. Possible mechanisms for the nonlocality needed to restore unitarity to black hole evolution are investigated. Suggestions that such dynamics arises from ultra-planckian modes in Hawking's derivation are investigated and found not to be relevant, in a picture using smooth slices spanning the exterior and interior of the horizon. However, no simultaneous description of modes that have fallen into the black hole and outgoing Hawking modes can be given without appearance of a large kinematic invariant, or other dependence on ultra-planckian physics; a reliable argument for information loss thus has not been constructed. This suggests that strong gravitational dynamics is important. Such dynamics has been argued to be fundamentally nonlocal in extreme situations, such as those required to investigate the fate of information.
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The black hole information paradox apparently indicates the need for a fundamentally new ingredient in physics. The leading contender is nonlocality. Possible mechanisms for the nonlocality needed to restore unitarity to black hole evolution are investigated. Suggestions that such dynamics arises from ultra-planckian modes in Hawking's derivation are investigated and found not to be relevant, in a picture using smooth slices spanning the exterior and interior of the horizon. However, no simultaneous description of modes that have fallen into the black hole and outgoing Hawking modes can be given without appearance of a large kinematic invariant, or other dependence on ultra-planckian physics; a reliable argument for information loss thus has not been constructed. This suggests that strong gravitational dynamics is important. Such dynamics has been argued to be fundamentally nonlocal in extreme situations, such as those required to investigate the fate of information.
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| s0 | The black hole information paradox apparently indicates the need for a fundamentally new ingredient in physics. | background 0.98 | 0.07 | 0.08 | hedged possibility 0.98 |
| s1 | The leading contender is nonlocality. | background 0.99 | 0.08 | 0.12 | asserted 0.88 |
| s2 | Possible mechanisms for the nonlocality needed to restore unitarity to black hole evolution are investigated. | contribution 0.98 | 0.74 | 0.06 | hedged possibility 0.49 |
| s3 | Suggestions that such dynamics arises from ultra-planckian modes in Hawking's derivation are investigated and found not to be relevant, in a picture using smooth slices spanning the exterior and interior of the horizon. | result 0.93 | 0.77 | 0.09 | asserted 1.00 |
| s4 | However, no simultaneous description of modes that have fallen into the black hole and outgoing Hawking modes can be given without appearance of a large kinematic invariant, or other dependence on ultra-planckian physics; a reliable argument for information loss thus has not been constructed. | result 0.75 | 0.64 | 0.42 | asserted 0.92 |
| s5 | This suggests that strong gravitational dynamics is important. | interpretation 0.98 | 0.32 | 0.18 | hedged possibility 0.98 |
| s6 | Such dynamics has been argued to be fundamentally nonlocal in extreme situations, such as those required to investigate the fate of information. | interpretation 0.53 | 0.07 | 0.23 | hedged possibility 0.62 |
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52 arXiv papers cite this in 67 sentences
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Cites it as support 4 papers
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Moreover a quantum particle crossing the horizon does not experience a dramatic gravitational interaction from these fluctuations because the contributions of the transplanckian ancestors of the Hawking photons are cancelled by those of their partners on the other side of the horizon [ref] .
The hidden horizon and black hole unitarity · The black hole paradox : singularity and horizon · 0.97
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In fact, explicit calculations [ref] show that the presence of Hawking modes does not alter appreciably the behaviour of collapsing matter, in agreement with the common lore that a freely-falling observer will not detect a substantial amount of radiation even in a neighbourhood of the horizon (see also [ref] ). 1.5cm
Linking the trans-Planckian and the information loss problems in black hole physics · Trans-Planckian problem · 0.98
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This is supported by studies of high-energy scattering [ref] and by investigating locality through relational observables [ref] , and could play an important role in explaining unitarity of black hole evaporation [ref] .
A global picture of quantum de Sitter space · The Global Picture of Eternal de Sitter space · 1.00
Cites it as background 11 papers
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Whether information is preserved or lost during black hole evaporation has now remained an unresolved question for several decades [ref] .
Unitarity and the information problem in an explicit model of black hole evaporation · Introduction · 0.99
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The spectrum of GWs can also serve as a test of the horizon's existence [ref] , where quantum gravity can modify the structure of the near-horizon geometry [ref] , either drastically via a “firewall" hiding all quantum effects [ref] , or smoothly with the quantum effects extending over some distance around the BH [ref] .
Quantum Gravity Background in Next-Generation Gravitational Wave Detectors · Sources of high-frequency GWs · 0.83
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There is a wide variety of interesting proposals for beyond-GR objects and phenomena, including boson stars [ref] , gravastars [ref] , firewalls [ref] , non-local interactions [ref] , soft hair around the horizon [ref] , and fuzzballs [ref] .
Imaging Topological Solitons: the Microstructure Behind the Shadow · Introduction · 1.00
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