High Energy Physics - Theory · arXiv:hep-th/0611098 v2 · submitted 9 Nov 2006 · 54 references
The arrow of time, black holes, and quantum mixing of large N Yang-Mills theories
The paper says
“Quantum gravity in an AdS spacetime is described by an SU(N) Yang-Mills theory on a sphere, a bounded many-body system. We argue that in the high temperature phase the theory is intrinsically non-perturbative in the large N limit.”
more of the abstract
At any nonzero value of the 't Hooft coupling λ, an exponentially large (in N^2) number of free theory states of wide energy range (of order N) mix under the interaction. As a result the planar perturbation theory breaks down. We argue that an arrow of time emerges and the dual string configuration should be interpreted as a stringy black hole.
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Holds up, with conditions. A genuine diagrammatic result in §4 plus a plausible but assumption-laden statistical argument in §6; the paper is candid that the arrow-of-time conclusion is a model, not a derivation. This line is wrong
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The paper says, at §6 and Appendix G, below Eq. (G.1)
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Pith says: Objection 1 of 5 · major
The derivation of the continuous spectrum rests on the assertion that |c_i^a|^2 and ρ_k(a) are 'completely independent variables, so the average of their product should factorize.' This is the load-bearing step for Eq. (6.14) and hence for the decay of G_+(t), but no argument is given for it.
more of objection 1
The two quantities are determined by different objects (c by the interaction V, ρ by the operator O), so a random-matrix independence is plausible, but in N=4 SYM both are built from the same fields and correlations are not obviously negligible. A short justification, or a check in a tractable toy model such as the two-matrix system (2.3) at small N, would materially strengthen the central claim.
The paper says, at §4 versus §6; §5 (final paragraph) and §7
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Pith says: Objection 2 of 5 · major
The manuscript is explicit that the §4 diagrammatic result 'establishes the breakdown of perturbation theory, but does not tell us directly whether the spectral functions are continuous or not,' and that the §4–§6 connection 'is not clear at this point.'
more of objection 2
That is an honest division of labor, but it means the arrow-of-time conclusion of abstract:s4 is carried entirely by the §6 modeling assumptions, not by the more rigorous §4 computation. The abstract and introduction should state this dependence plainly, so that a reader does not take the diagrammatic divergence as establishing the continuous spectrum.
The paper says, at §4, Eq. (4.19)
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Pith says: Objection 3 of 5 · major
The alternating sign (-1)^i in the sum over the diagram family is asserted rather than derived from the (-1)^n/n! structure of Eq. (3.10). The sign matters: remark 3 of §4 uses it to argue that the singularities in λt lie on the imaginary axis, which in turn controls whether D_+(ω) has an essential singularity at λ = 0 on the positive or negative real axis.
more of objection 3
Either derive the sign or flag it as an assumption, since the analytic structure of D_+(ω) is one of the paper's stated conclusions.
The paper says, at §4, Eq. (4.1) and remark 5
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Pith says: Objection 4 of 5 · major
The diagrammatic computation is performed in the high-temperature limit in which the Wilson line U is replaced by the identity, i.e. strictly at T ≫ 1/R. The black-hole correspondence of interest is at the deconfinement temperature T ~ 1/R, where the singlet projection is not negligible.
more of objection 4
The paper should state clearly the temperature regime in which the §4 result applies and whether the conclusion survives down to T ~ 1/R; remark 5's scaling h_c ~ ω_0^3/T and the singularity time t ~ ω_0^3/(λT) suggest it does, but this is not argued.
The paper says, at Abstract and §7
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Pith says: Objection 5 of 5 · major
The abstract states that 'the dual string configuration should be interpreted as a stringy black hole,' whereas §7 presents this as a list of expected properties contingent on 'no further large N phase transition between weak and strong couplings' and on the identification of the weak-coupling bulk geometry with a string-scale spacetime.
more of objection 5
The abstract should be softened to reflect that this is a conditional conjecture, or the condition should be stated there, so that the headline claim is not read as a derived result.
7 minor objections
The paper says, at §2.2, below Eq. (2.4)
Pith says: minor objection 1 of 7
The statement that s(μ) is monotonically increasing for sufficiently large μ (positive specific heat) is asserted without argument or reference; a brief justification or citation would help the reader calibrate the regime of validity of the high-energy-sector discussion.
The paper says, at §3.1, Eq. (3.4)
Pith says: minor objection 2 of 7
The saddle-point result U → 1 as T → ∞ is used repeatedly in §4 and §5; the citation to [24] is appropriate, but a one-line reminder of why the singlet projection becomes unimportant at high temperature would make the later use self-contained.
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The paper says, at §6, Eq. (6.19)
Pith says: minor objection 3 of 7
The passage from the second to the third line performs a saddle-point approximation on the bracket, with the justification that the bracket depends on E slowly. Given Eq. (6.18), a short explicit statement of why the E-dependence is slow (i.e. only through E/N^2) would make the step transparent.
The paper says, at Appendix D
Pith says: minor objection 4 of 7
The comparison with the single anharmonic oscillator is useful and the distinction between the n! growth of diagrams and the single-class divergence is well taken, but the appendix is long relative to its role; it could be tightened without loss.
The paper says, at Reference [42]
Pith says: minor objection 5 of 7
Reference [42] is listed as 'in progress'; it is not load-bearing for any claim in the manuscript, but the reader should be told that the density functions for a sparse banded random matrix with non-constant density of states are not available in the published literature.
The paper says, at Figs. 1 and 2
Pith says: minor objection 6 of 7
The captions identify black and red lines as M1 and M2 propagators, but the vertex and symmetry-factor conventions used in Eqs. (4.9) and (4.16) would be easier to follow if stated explicitly in the caption or in the surrounding text.
The paper says, at §7, final paragraph
Pith says: minor objection 7 of 7
The conjecture that a stronger version of Eq. (6.14) holds with a random matrix R_ij, and the association with quantum chaos via [45,46], are clearly labeled as speculative; the citation to [45,46] should be checked to ensure it supports the specific 'hallmark of quantum chaos' phrasing used here.
What would settle it
Truncate the simple model (2.3) to a fixed energy window at small N (N = 3–4) and diagonalize numerically. For each exact eigenstate |i⟩ in the high-energy window, compute the overlaps c_i^a with free-theory Fock states and the participation ratio PR_i = 1/∑_a |c_i^a|^4. If PR_i scales with the full window dimension (delocalized random vector), assumption (i) is supported; if PR_i scales as a power of N smaller than the window dimension (sparse), the §6 argument fails. Separately, compute G_+(t) for the same truncation at small nonzero λ: if it oscillates rather than decays over the accessible time range, the arrow-of-time conclusion is not yet demonstrated at accessible N, and the burden shifts to showing the decay emerges only as N → ∞.
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The part worth your time is §4. Festuccia and Liu isolate a family of planar diagrams (fig. 1) whose contributions go like (λt/hc)d_i with di = 3i − 1, so the radius of convergence in λ collapses as hc/t at large t. That is an honest, checkable computation, and it makes a sharp point: the planar expansion for real-time correlators has zero radius of convergence in the long-time limit even though the Euclidean expansion is fine. The corollary they draw — that λ→0 and t→∞ do not commute at N=∞ — is the paper's most defensible claim, and it is the one I would cite. §5's physical picture, an O(N) window of exponentially many degenerate free states mixed by any nonzero λ so that Γ ~ O(N) and 'small λ' is not small, is heuristic but coherent, and it is the right kind of heuristic for this problem. §6 is where the arrow-of-time claim actually lives, and it is a model. G_+(ω) = eβω/2A(ω,μβ) follows from treating cia as a random unit vector in an O(N) shell and O_ab as a banded sparse random matrix, plus the factorization in Appendix G below (G.1). The stress-test is right that §4 alone gives divergence, not a continuous spectrum. But the paper says so itself — end of §5: the diagram argument 'does not tell us directly whether the spectral functions are continuous or not.' The division of labor is stated, not hidden. The factorization assumption is the one I would push on; it is stronger than the §7 caveat about sparsity, since both factors are determined by the same Hamiltonian. One correction to the reader's report: the classifier says no limitations are stated, which is wrong. §7 says 'our arguments in this paper are qualitative in nature and far from foolproof,' and §5 flags the §4–§6 gap explicitly. The paper is unusually candid about what it has and has not shown. §7's stringy black hole is speculation and labeled as such ('it seems to us the answer is likely to be yes'); do not read it as a result. Citations are clean and standard. This is for anyone working on thermalization, ETH, or information loss in AdS/CFT; it is a good problem-statement paper. Send it to referees — the §4 computation deserves checking and the §6 assumptions deserve a referee's push.
The strongest objection
The paper offers two arguments for breakdown of planar perturbation theory. §4 is a genuine Feynman-diagram computation: the family in fig. 1 gives contributions ~ (λt/h_c)^{d_i} with d_i = 3^i − 1, a lacunary series with radius λ_c(t) ~ h_c/t → 0. This is a real partial result, but it establishes only that the perturbative series diverges at long times; it does not establish a continuous spectral density or decay of G_+(t). A divergent perturbative series is equally consistent with a discrete spectrum reorganized non-perturbatively. The arrow-of-time conclusion therefore rests on §6, where G_+(ω) = e^{βω/2} A(ω, μ_β) is derived from the assumptions that (i) c_i^a is a random unit vector spread over an O(N) window and (ii) O_ab is a banded sparse random matrix, and crucially (iii) |c_i^a|^2 and ρ_k(a) are independent so their product factorizes (Appendix G, below eq. G.1). Assumption (iii) is stronger than the §7 caveat about c_i^a being 'very sparse': it asserts statistical independence of two quantities both determined by the same Hamiltonian. The authors state (§5, §7) that the §4–§6 connection is unclear and that the arguments are 'qualitative... far from foolproof.' So the headline claim is supported by a model, not a derivation, and the paper's own more rigorous result does not reach it.
The reader's weakest_assumption correctly identifies the §6 random-matrix modeling as the load-bearing vulnerability, and the authors acknowledge a version of it in §7. I agree with the diagnosis and the CONDITIONAL verdict. My sharpening is that the vulnerability is structural, not merely a caveat: the paper's two arguments are logically independent, and only §6 delivers the arrow of time. §4 shows the perturbative series diverges, which is necessary but not sufficient for a continuous spectrum; a divergent series can coexist with a discrete spectrum. The authors themselves say the relation between the two arguments 'is not clear at this point' (§5) and that the arguments are 'qualitative in nature and far from foolproof' (§7). The factorization step in Appendix G (independence of |c_i^a|^2 and ρ_k(a)) is a stronger assumption than the §7 caveat, since both quantities are functionals of the same Hamiltonian. None of this makes the paper wrong — it is a candid, well-motivated position paper with a real partial computation — but it means the headline claim is a model-dependent expectation rather than a derived result. CONDITIONAL remains the right verdict; the concrete test above would either support the modeling assumption or undercut it.
The referee's report
If correct, the central claim would give a microscopic, weak-coupling account of how an arrow of time and an effective horizon emerge in the large-N limit of a bounded gauge theory, which is directly relevant to the information-loss debate and to the interpretation of black-hole singularities in AdS/CFT. The paper is candid about its heuristic status and frames the question sharply. Its most durable contribution is the explicit diagrammatic computation of §4: the family in fig. 1 with d_i = 3^i - 1 and the recursion (4.16) is a concrete, checkable partial result showing that an otherwise convergent planar expansion can diverge in the long-time limit. The statistical modeling of §6 is a legitimate and clearly labeled tool, and the AdS/CFT parameter translation in Appendix A is standard and correctly attributed. The paper does not ship code or machine-checked proofs, and its falsifiable content is qualitative rather than numerical.
Pith's reading of the paper (a machine's summary, not the authors')
Take a gauge theory whose gravity dual is a black hole, and ask where the black hole's one-way-in-time behaviour actually comes from. The paper argues that the answer is the large-N limit itself: at any nonzero coupling an exponentially large number of free-theory states, spread over an energy range of order $N$, mix under the interaction, so the perturbative expansion has a radius of convergence that shrinks to zero as time grows. The authors first show by an explicit planar diagram computation that at any finite order real-time correlators stay quasi-periodic and never thermalize, then argue that the series fails at late times, and finally replace perturbation theory with a statistical model of the mixing that yields a continuous spectral density and decay. If the argument holds, thermalization, information loss, and the horizon of the dual geometry are all consequences of taking $N$ to infinity rather than of strong coupling, and the bulk object dual to the hot phase deserves the name stringy black hole at weak coupling too.
What carries the argument. The load-bearing object is the Lehmann spectral decomposition $G_+(t) = Z^{-1} sum_{i,j} e^{-beta E_i + i(E_i - E_j)t} |langle i|O|jrangle|^2$, read as a statement about how exact energy eigenstates are spread over free-theory states. Two quantities carry the argument: the spread $Gamma_a^2 = sum_{b neq a} |langle a|V|b rangle|^2$, which is of order $N^2$ for any single-trace interaction and therefore gives an energy width of order $N$, and the overlap coefficients $c_i^a$ treated as a random unit vector inside that shell. Combined with the assumption that the operator matrix $O_{ab}$ is banded and sparse, this yields the averaged matrix element $rho_{E_1E_2} = e^{-S(E)} A(omega;E)$ and hence a continuous spectrum. The diagrammatic side of the argument is carried by the iterated graph of Fig. 1, whose contribution is computed exactly in its highest power of Euclidean time using the convolution identity for the thermal propagator $g_E(tau;omega_0)$, and whose recursion $F_{i+1} = F_i^3 alpha d_{i+1}(d_{i+1}-1)$ produces the $1/t$ radius of convergence.
Core claim. The central claim is that the high-temperature phase of a large-$N$ matrix quantum mechanics (with $N=4$ super-Yang-Mills on a sphere as the flagship example) is intrinsically non-perturbative in $N$ at any nonzero 't Hooft coupling $lambda$, and that this is what produces an arrow of time. The chain runs in three steps. First, a perturbative computation shows that at every finite order the thermal Wightman function is a finite sum of delta functions at multiples of the fundamental frequency, hence quasi-periodic, so nothing thermalizes. Second, a family of iterated planar diagrams (Fig. 1, appearing at orders $d_i = 3^i - 1$) produces terms growing like $(t/h_c)^{d_i}$ with $h_c = e^{3/2}(2omega_0)^2/sqrt(3 f(1+f))$, giving a convergence radius $lambda_c(t) ~ 1/t$ that vanishes as $t to infinity$; in frequency space the same diagrams grow like $d_i!$, producing an essential singularity at $lambda = 0$. Third, the physical reason is that free-theory levels at energy of order $N^2$ are degenerate to order $e^{O(N^2)}$, and the interaction mixes states across an energy window of order $N$, so the $lambda to 0$ and $t to infinity$ limits do not commute. A statistical treatment then gives $rho_{E_1 E_2} = e^{-S(E)} A(omega; E)$ with $A$ even in $omega$, falling off like $e^{-beta(E)|omega|/2}$, and at most integrably singular on the real axis, so $G_+(t) to 0$ and the spectral density is continuous for all $omega$.
The premise it rests on. The statistical argument assumes that for each exact energy eigenstate the overlaps with free-theory states form a random unit vector spread over a shell of width of order $N$, and that the operator matrix elements form a banded sparse random matrix; the authors themselves note in section 7 that if those overlaps are structured, for instance very sparse within their spread, the argument fails.
If the paper is right (Pith's inferences, not the authors')
Real-time correlation functions of small gauge-invariant operators decay to zero at late times for any nonzero 't Hooft coupling, so linear response to a perturbation dies away and the system has an arrow of time in the large-$N$ limit.
There is a large-$N$ phase transition at $lambda = 0$ that is invisible in Euclidean quantities such as the partition function, but shows up as an essential singularity of real-time correlators and their Fourier transforms.
Information loss in gravitational collapse is a consequence of the classical (large-$N$) approximation rather than a property of the full quantum theory, since at finite $N$ the spectrum is discrete and evolution is unitary and recurrent.
The bulk configuration dual to the weakly coupled high-temperature phase should be called a stringy black hole: it carries entropy of order $1/g_s^2$, absorbs all probes, has a horizon, and is likely to have singularities.
Because the mechanism only uses the $N$-scaling of single-trace interactions, the same conclusion should apply to any of the matrix quantum mechanics theories in the paper's class, not only to $N=4$ super-Yang-Mills.
If the mixing picture is right, the relevant time scale for the onset of thermal behaviour should be set by the inverse width of the mixed shell, of order $1/N$ in units of the fundamental frequency, which is far shorter than the recurrence time $e^{O(N^2)}$; that gap is what makes the large-$N$ limit look irreversible.
The paper's remark that a stronger form $rho_{ij} = e^{-S(E)} A(omega;E) R_{ij}$ with random $R_{ij}$ is the hallmark of quantum chaos suggests a concrete numerical test: diagonalize a truncated two-matrix model at moderate $N$ and check whether the off-diagonal matrix elements of a simple operator follow such a distribution.
The argument implies that the weak-coupling and strong-coupling analytic structures should be continuously connected in $lambda$ absent a further phase transition, so features attributed to black hole singularities and bulk-cone singularities at strong coupling should leave traces at small $lambda$ as well.
Because the mechanism relies on an energy window of order $N$ opening up, it should not operate in the low-temperature phase, which is consistent with the smooth interpolation between free theory and strong coupling reported for the low-lying spectrum.
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Quantum gravity in an AdS spacetime is described by an SU(N) Yang-Mills theory on a sphere, a bounded many-body system. We argue that in the high temperature phase the theory is intrinsically non-perturbative in the large N limit. At any nonzero value of the 't Hooft coupling λ, an exponentially large (in N^2) number of free theory states of wide energy range (of order N) mix under the interaction. As a result the planar perturbation theory breaks down. We argue that an arrow of time emerges and the dual string configuration should be interpreted as a stringy black hole.
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“We argue that an arrow of time emerges and the dual string configuration should be interpreted as a stringy black hole.”
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| We argue that in the high temperature phase the theory is intrinsically non-perturbative in the large N limit. | result 0.53 | 0.58 | 0.16 | asserted 0.59 |
| At any nonzero value of the 't Hooft coupling $\lambda$, an exponentially large (in N^2) number of free theory states of wide energy range (of order N) mix under the interaction. | result 0.97 | 0.56 | 0.10 | asserted 1.00 |
| As a result the planar perturbation theory breaks down. | result 0.93 | 0.57 | 0.09 | asserted 1.00 |
| We argue that an arrow of time emerges and the dual string configuration should be interpreted as a stringy black hole. | interpretation 0.98 | 0.69 | 0.82 | asserted 0.57 |
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The graphs considered in Ref. [ref] have a simple iterative structure that suggests such a resummation.
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The doubling of the graph in Ref. [ref] plays no essential role, so our model should have similar properties.
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In [ref] , it was argued that for a gauged quantum mechanical system with multiple matrices (which includes $𝒩 = 4$ SYM theory on $ℝ ×S^3$) in the large $N$ limit, the spectral function of a generic single-trace operator exhibits a complete spectrum for any nonzero 't Hooft coupling above the Hawking-Page transition temperature.
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For example, in [ref] it was shown that correlators decay exponentially for a dense set of observables of a quantum Anosov system, which is once again the expected behavior of a horizon in a quantum field theory [ref] , see also [ref] .
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Since if we quantize the fields in planar BTZ background we still have a continuous spectrum of quasi normal modes ($ω$) which has nothing to do with compact or non-compact boundary manifold [ref] .
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In AdS/CFT [ref] [ref] , a finite $N$ black hole is described by an ordinary quantum system with finite entropy and a discrete spectrum [ref] .
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Several attempts to use holography in order to understand the black hole singularity have been made [ref] .
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